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i want that apple watch silicone company that makes those rubber models of the ipod and the older macintosh (lucy?) to make this for my apple watch series 5. i like this design.
 
Where can we see the wheels at GBP:90.00 each before we buy!?

Like others, I thought Apple had lost it when I saw they wanted an extra $1,000 for the screen stand, but GBP:90.00 for some wheels - someone's going to be selling aftermarket alloys at a fiver for a set of four.
 
It isn’t overpriced, Apple just doesn’t offer a low cost option.
if you look at marques brown lee on youtube, he just did a second impressions video today and easily makes his money back on this expensive purchase. guys like him make millions of dollars in revenue every year. this is pennies AND a tax deductible business expense. better yet, these machines hold value. this is not an experience. this is a product you can resell after it serves its life over many years.
 
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Apple want you to spend $52000 for a maxed version then they are charging extra for the keyboard and mouse ?:))) niiiice they should inc that for free

I think they're included (Jonathan Morrison video)
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Where can we see the wheels at GBP:90.00 each before we buy!?

Just trick your kid to make one from LEGO, much cheaper, and you don't have to take to Genius Bar for fixing
 
if you look at marques brown lee on youtube, he just did a second impressions video today and easily makes his money back on this expensive purchase. guys like him make millions of dollars in revenue every year. this is pennies AND a tax deductible business expense. better yet, these machines hold value. this is not an experience. this is a product you can resell after it serves its life over many years.

I don’t watch his videos or iJustines videos but I understand the point. Being able to render on a large scale in a shorter time equals more money. For some people, even the $52k Mac Pro can pay for itself.
 
Although I do agree that iJustine is cancer, I have to say that Marques has some good videos.
 
Although I do agree that iJustine is cancer, I have to say that Marques has some good videos.
You are a bit unfair with iJustine. She makes videos for like a decade now, started from nothing and is over 6m subs. Her videos have fine production values and she can be funny. Yes, her videos are for a number of years now mostly infomercials at best, but she does try to make them look good. Far from cancer.
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$50 bucks a month is too steep for you? For a computer you're more than likely have for literally about a decade? If you're making a living with this stuff, the price is completely reasonable. One job can pay for this pretty easy. I'm talking about price range of $6000-12000.
The machine might or might not last a decade. Hardware can break down over a number of years, even if you take good care of it. Repairable probably, but if one buys one of these thinking it will definitely physically last for a decade...
Then it is the whole thing of performance. With AMD ripping Intel a new one with their current generation of CPUs, and getting better and better "each day", if there isn't already a much cheaper solution for the Mac Pro in the "PC" world, then there will be and it won't take a decade for it to appear.
I am not even focusing on Windows/Linux systems only either. Unless Apple tries for some reason to not release systems as good as they can, how long till an iMac or iMac Pro, or hell even a smaller solution, comes with close or better performance? Again, I doubt it is going to be a decade.

Don't get me wrong, they are fine machines, I like everything about them apart from the price as I can't afford even a base one, but they are not going to be king of performance for a decade and how are "you" going to feel paying those $50 each month for a system well past its prime time?
Go for it and buy one if you need the horsepower NOW, but if you buy it to serve you several years or even a decade from now, that sounds like a bad move. That's not just for this machine, but for any computer.
 
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You are a bit unfair with iJustine. She makes videos for like a decade now, started from nothing and is over 6m subs. Her videos have fine production values and she can be funny. Yes, her videos are for a number of years now mostly infomercials at best, but she does try to make them look good. Far from cancer.
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The machine might or might not last a decade. Hardware can break down over a number of years, even if you take good care of it. Repairable probably, but if one buys one of these thinking it will definitely physically last for a decade...
That's why they are modular, so they can be upgraded. The old cheese grater design, when upgraded, is still competitive with current computers.
 
That's why they are modular, so they can be upgraded. The old cheese grater design, when upgraded, is still competitive with current computers.
Upgrading computers after a point is just throwing money away.
Also, upgrading a computer is your point of explaining why it is worth paying so much money for it in the first place? So that you have the capacity to pay more money on the same older hardware later?
 
Even though the price is somewhat out of whack, and I don't have genuine use cases to justify the expense, a part of me was hoping to find an excuse to buy a base Pro, and the XDR display.

However for the XDR, Pro Stand and base Mac Pro, I'll have to pay £2,000 more than a US based customer, because 'reasons'.

That has priced me out of an already very considered purchase. How the hell is that a justifiable price hike?
 
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I will try to put this in context as someone who uses Mac Pro's for living since they existed and a bit before.
People say its expensive and that they can't afford it because it cost as much as a car. Forgetting the fact that there is over 260 million people in the U.S. that own a car. My Über driver the other day was driving a new Toyota that cost $27k, he makes on a good day about $250. His car cost him gas, insurance, parking, traffic tickets and so on, all of that cost him on average, about $5-$9 a year depending on his geographical location. With my current 2013 mac pro, I make as a freelancer about $500 to $800 a day when booked, doing anything from photo and video editing, to VFX and 3D animation. I got two of them running almost 24/7. So far they only have costed me electricity to run. I am planing to drop about $20k on a new MacPro, because it will make my work flow about 4-6 times faster and in my business time is money. The new MacPro is a professional tool for people that are doing really demanding work, and don't have the time and energy to tinker around building custom PC's. Same way most people don't have time and energy to be building cars from spare parts even it would be probably cheeper. ; ) PS: I don't own a car, I walk to work.
 
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I will try to put this in context as someone who uses Mac Pro's for living since they existed and a bit before.
People say its expensive and that they can't afford it because it cost as much as a car. Forgetting the fact that there is over 260 million people in the U.S. that own a car. My Über driver the other day was driving a new Toyota that cost $27k, he makes on a good day about $250. His car cost him gas, insurance, parking, traffic tickets and so on, all of that cost him on average, about $5-$9 a year depending on his geographical location. With my current 2013 mac pro, I make as a freelancer about $500 to $800 a day when booked, doing anything from photo and video editing, to VFX and 3D animation. I got two of them running almost 24/7. So far they only have costed me electricity to run. I am planing to drop about $20k on a new MacPro, because it will make my work flow about 4-6 times faster and in my business time is money. The new MacPro is a professional tool for people that are doing really demanding work, and don't have the time and energy to tinker around building custom PC's. Same way most people don't have time and energy to be building cars from spare parts even it would be probably cheeper. ; ) PS: I don't own a car, I walk to work.

I agree with you IF you are a video editor by profession. BUT, if you just want an awesome desktop that has that "Apple Beauty look" and an incredible monitor with that same look, what do you buy from them?

I was really looking forward to getting the new Mac Pro as our shared home computer. We do web, email, gaming, minor photo and video(imovie) editing, etc... What ever happened to the Cinema Display/Thunderbolt monitor space? $1000 for that monitor was no big deal and they last forever. In fact I still use one as a second monitor in my office as they look really professional. I guess I am supposed to buy a fully loaded iMac or iMac Pro? The Mac mini is out of the question for several reasons(not enough video card and no Apple monitor option, ..).

In short, what about the power user that doesn't use the machine to make money as a profession but wants a high end, beautiful desktop and monitor that looks incredible? You know the high-end of the middle type ?

Spending even 20k for that is ridiculous even if you are worth millions... Apple is pushing us to iMac Pros.
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I agree with you IF you are a video editor by profession. BUT, if you just want an awesome desktop that has that "Apple Beauty look" and an incredible monitor with that same look, what do you buy from them?

I was really looking forward to getting the new Mac Pro as our shared home computer. We do web, email, gaming, minor photo and video(imovie) editing, etc... What ever happened to the Cinema Display/Thunderbolt monitor space? $1000 for that monitor was no big deal and they last forever. In fact I still use one as a second monitor in my office as they look really professional. I guess I am supposed to buy a fully loaded iMac or iMac Pro? The Mac mini is out of the question for several reasons(not enough video card and no Apple monitor option, ..).

In short, what about the power user that doesn't use the machine to make money as a profession but wants a high end, beautiful desktop and monitor that looks incredible? You know the high-end of the middle type ?

Spending even 20k for that is ridiculous even if you are worth millions... Apple is pushing us to iMac Pros.


I would love to see Apple's profit margins on each configuration and on the XDR monitor with stand.
 
In short, what about the power user that doesn't use the machine to make money as a profession but wants a high end, beautiful desktop and monitor that looks incredible? You know the high-end of the middle type ?

Nothing that you described in your uses is "power user" or "high end of the middle" nowadays. It's all achievable on a $329 ipad. Technology has moved on and the market you think you're in has largely evaporated.

Not that I'm advocating you should get an ipad, in case you misunderstand. You're just holding out for a product that's unlikely to ever be made again. Apple pitched higher with the mac pro because everything you described is well within the capabilities of an imac pro or even a mac mini. Except gaming, perhaps, and that's never been the strong suit of any mac.
 
Nothing that you described in your uses is "power user" or "high end of the middle" nowadays. It's all achievable on a $329 ipad. Technology has moved on and the market you think you're in has largely evaporated.

Not that I'm advocating you should get an ipad, in case you misunderstand. You're just holding out for a product that's unlikely to ever be made again. Apple pitched higher with the mac pro because everything you described is well within the capabilities of an imac pro or even a mac mini. Except gaming, perhaps, and that's never been the strong suit of any mac.

Understood. By the way, I just ordered (2) new, maxed out 16" MBPro's for work for $4k each. So, Im not cheap or anything. I just miss the days of the 2008 Mac Pro where you could build a monster Apple desktop for $10k+ and grab a Cinema display for $1000. Apple is forcing us into an iMac/iMac Pro for that I guess.
 
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