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Mac Pro (Early 2008) Notes and Options
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MattInOz
macrumors 68030
I think the give away is the
"Intel 1600 MHz front-side bus Xeon processors will drop into the upcoming Seaburg chipset. Seaburg features support for dual PCIe 2.0 x16 slots and up to 128 GB of memory"
Oh and none of the 45nm Penryns are able to do dual processor config's.
THX1139
macrumors 68000
You should cut back on the caffeine dude. I think you're going to feel silly when you realize that what you wrote is all wrong.
SMM
macrumors 65816
Everybody's stock stock price is lagging. Apple has been one of the best investments over the past 18-24 months. My wife and I both bought in the $38-$42 range. At the time, I was worried we were getting in late. The more I learned about the company, and realized how far ahead of the curve they were, my fears went away, and we have been rewarded by not reacting to every little bump in the road.
Apple is the best managed, engineered and innovative tech company in the world - hands down. Look at how Dell, MS, Sun, HP and many others are trying to imitate Apple. They are trying to capture some of the excitement, Apple has pioneered.
hey guys,
2 PCI Express 2.0 16 lane slots
does that mean we could run dual 8800 GT cards? Is this the long awaited SLI support we had all hoped?
No mention at all on apple's site.. but that's two identical slots.. just one is wider than the other (surrounding space?)
Scott
2 PCI Express 2.0 16 lane slots
does that mean we could run dual 8800 GT cards? Is this the long awaited SLI support we had all hoped?
No mention at all on apple's site.. but that's two identical slots.. just one is wider than the other (surrounding space?)
Scott
Yeah....Apple TV with a blu-ray player. Then an iPod with a CD drive....come on....
With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more. The Mac Pro is aimed largely at creative content developers; power users who design and manipulate multimedia material. It is the pro user who needs a Blu-ray burner for authoring high definition video or backing up large amounts of data to optical disc for storage. While this doesn't mean that an iMac user would never be interested in these kinds of applications, the price premium that a BD-R drive commands even at this point would raise the cost of the system above what the "basic" user would be willing to pay. It's clear by Apple's offerings of a $2,600 video card, however, that the Mac Pro is the system which will accept the pricey BTO options regardless of the cost. At the very least, it makes no sense in offering such a drive to an iMac user and NOT a Pro user.
The only reason I believe they have left the drive out - even as an upgrade - is that their own DVD Studio Pro software can't even author simple Blu-ray discs yet. It would cause way too much hassle for Apple to offer a drive that the manufacturer's software can't take advantage of. I'm bummed, too, but my guess is we'll see drives appear when their software finally catches up.
Wow, the ADC pricing is insane.
ADC: $2239
Edu: $2599
Standard: $2799
Anyone in college should just buy a $99 student ADC membership and they still save a bunch of money on the MacPro.
It also shows how crazy Apple's margins are, and makes you wonder if they had ADC pricing for everyone if they'd be at 20% marketshare already.
ADC: $2239
Edu: $2599
Standard: $2799
Anyone in college should just buy a $99 student ADC membership and they still save a bunch of money on the MacPro.
It also shows how crazy Apple's margins are, and makes you wonder if they had ADC pricing for everyone if they'd be at 20% marketshare already.
I'm quite pleased with this update, as it seems quite a value despite its high price compared to previous revisions.
Oh how I miss the days of upgradeability -- so much so I'm considering the single CPU quad-core version of this or a now-reduced-price quad core 2.0 model instead of an iMac or Mac Mini because it will last me so much longer.
--Chris
Oh how I miss the days of upgradeability -- so much so I'm considering the single CPU quad-core version of this or a now-reduced-price quad core 2.0 model instead of an iMac or Mac Mini because it will last me so much longer.
--Chris
Freis968
macrumors 6502a
Freis968
macrumors 6502a
IlluminatedSage
macrumors 68000
It is a nice machine, though i am disappointed in the following:
1- No Blu-Ray reader or Burner option
2- No new Monitors to take advantage of HDMI inputs with Speakers integrated
soe nice sides to the new model. I would be interested, but i want the options i am mentioning.
I am sitting on my wallet until Blu-Ray !
But... the shipping time on these models are 3-5 weeks. who knows what the news at Macworld will be.
My hope is some of the above
1- No Blu-Ray reader or Burner option
2- No new Monitors to take advantage of HDMI inputs with Speakers integrated
soe nice sides to the new model. I would be interested, but i want the options i am mentioning.
I am sitting on my wallet until Blu-Ray !
But... the shipping time on these models are 3-5 weeks. who knows what the news at Macworld will be.
My hope is some of the above
Where?
Where is the new MAC pro redesign? This case is old... I am waiting for the new one before I purchase a new computer. The last time I bought new computer 6 months later they came out the G5... That is like loonnng time ago...
Where is the new MAC pro redesign? This case is old... I am waiting for the new one before I purchase a new computer. The last time I bought new computer 6 months later they came out the G5... That is like loonnng time ago...
Freis968
macrumors 6502a
Ok, do you think my CONFIGURE NOW Mac Pro I just ordered will do the job for me? I just need to type emails to my friend in Jacksonville and want to make sure I have enough power to do so...🙂
Summary
Subtotal $23,197.00
Estimated Ship:
3-5 weeks
Free Shipping
Next business day delivery available
Specifications
Two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core)
32GB (8 x 4GB)
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB (Stereo 3D, two dual-link DVI)
Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
Two 16x SuperDrives
AirPort Extreme card (Wi-Fi)
Apple wireless Mighty Mouse
Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) + Mac OS X
Summary
Subtotal $23,197.00
Estimated Ship:
3-5 weeks
Free Shipping
Next business day delivery available
Specifications
Two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core)
32GB (8 x 4GB)
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB (Stereo 3D, two dual-link DVI)
Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
Two 16x SuperDrives
AirPort Extreme card (Wi-Fi)
Apple wireless Mighty Mouse
Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) + Mac OS X
I am still suprised people care what these things look like. They are a box (very well designed) to put computer bits in, nothing else. I am sure you would find most Mac pro's stuck under a desk.
Who cares...
MattInOz
macrumors 68030
I think your storage needs would be volume over access time.
Maybe the 4x 1TB 7,500rpm would be a better choice?
iSee
macrumors 68040
That's funny... but don't worry, Apple doesn't interpret it that way: a Mac Pro
counts as one system, even when it includes 2 CPUs.
There are two main problems with the iMac. One is that while it's a fine computer now, two or three years down the line you can't extend its life with some upgrades. The other is that monitors go obsolete slower than computers, so it doesn't make sense to have to buy a new monitor every four or five years.
Realistically, I think that either the single-chip Mac Pro or the Mac Mini will serve most people's needs if they don't want an iMac (the Mac Mini isn't upgradeable, but you can also afford to replace it a lot more often), so it makes sense for Apple to keep their product line as it is. But there will always be a few people for whom that doesn't apply.
(Oh, and if the current iMacs are anything like the original ones, they are upgradeable... it's just really annoying. On my old lime iMac G3, I maxed out the RAM (over a series of three separate upgrades), installed a bigger hard drive, replaced the CMOS battery after it died, and finally upgraded the fan to a quieter one. The last involved removing the entire case along with about 30 screws, and being very careful around the CRT. But it still works, and it happily runs Ubuntu.)
mixel
macrumors 68000
.. I wish yearly updates offered 50x performance boosts too. 🙄
Seems pretty decent value to me! Cheaper than before, more powerful than before.
If I had the spare cash I'd be all over this to replace my poor old 1.8 dual G5.
darthraige
macrumors 68000
I agree... Also, its still the most badass looking machine on the planet. It's scary looking. Can not wait to purchase this. Just waiting for my credit card to show up. 😀
!¡ V ¡!
macrumors 6502a
You are forgetting about heat and power consumption, when you add a 3.5" desktop class HDD and or a dedicated GPU even with a little larger case you are going to generate a lot of heat. To counter that you have to add a fan or two and then you have a noisy machine, to make matters worse you also have to up the power supply. Before you know it you will be asking for the option to add another HDD and that will lead you to the MP line.
Don't are for the GPU, however will agree that a 3.5" 7200 rpm HDD would be appreciated.
the mid-range headless iMac, or whatever you want to call it is actually been released today, its the single quad-core bto. This makes more sense to house it in the same casing as the rest of the MP as it reduces cost for R&D, redesign, testing, production, shipping, advertising, and the list goes on.
Cheaper to have the same MP case and give the end user more options or similar options to upgrade when compared to the rest of the product line.
Apple is wise to reuse the same MP case for a mid-range model. Consumers are too blind to notice or see the possibilities. Do not need another G4 Cube.
The "Vibe" occurs with every Apple event may it be MWSF or WWDC or MW Paris. When can I say Fan's. 😉 😀
WOW, thank you for clearing that up. It is a very dark shadow, so at first glance I just automatically assumed they added the black border that all the other products are getting or will get because that is the new design theme and the new materials. I didn't think about it till I saw the other pics. I'm not an idiot. And I wasn't the only one. It would look much better if they did I think, look at it, it would fit the new iMac theme very nicely 😉
!¡ V ¡!
macrumors 6502a
reason why Apple has not updated any of the casings on most of its products, is because its trying to cut costs to design and produce a new case every 2-3 years in its previous track record, this added extra cost to the consumers.
Apple is trying to save the consumer money by not redesigning often enough, take the same amount or a little less profit margin to please its shareholders and sustain company growth and in the end you have happy customers (generally happy and most of them).
We can all agree that Apple product line has come down in price when compared to the past, however that is the nature of technology, one also has to factor in that since the past Apple has also grown into many other business ventures yet still dropping prices and offering more to its customers.
If the customer(s) want to pay more for a new product casing every 2-3 years then I am sure Apple will not mind delivering on that objective.
redesigning the MP when its already a great industrial design (maybe reduce its dimensions a little and change the handle design), plus for a machine that is heavy and big which will normally be kept on the floor or under a desk, seems almost pointless to redesign for the cost to consumers.