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Mac Pro Launching in December with Xeon Processors, Dual FirePro GPUs and PCIe Flash Storage
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People complain when Apple announces things in the last minute and they complain when they actually announce beforehand.
That's cheaper than I was expecting. 
The world would be weird if it was void of complainers. And MacRumors just wouldn't be the same.
Really? You are buying a $3000 work station and going to use apple's crappy keyboards and mice? God no. I don't even use those with my Mac Mini....
I noticed the previously "Standard" high-end GPUs got some cheaper alternatives on these low-end models.
Certainly not a bargain for a quad-core, let's see the whole price & config list, this is a pretty pathetic reveal, considering how long we've waited for it.
Here are the processors used:
4 Core: E5-1620 v2 Price $294.00
6 Core: E5-1650 v2 Price $583.00
8 Core: E5-1680 v2 Price $1723.00
12 Core: E5-2697 v2 Price $2614.00
So if the price of the machine with the 4-Core CPU is 3000$, expect the upgraded price to 12 Core for no less than 5500$.
The AMD GPU's would cost around 600$ to 1300$ (for 2 GPU's).
Add in the new SSD, which'll cost no less than 500$ for 256GB (That's how much the even slower ones cost today).
So total we are looking at a cost around 1500$ for only CPU+GPU+SSD minimum. Add in the memory and all, I think the 3000$ model will cost Apple around 2K to build.
4 Core: E5-1620 v2 Price $294.00
6 Core: E5-1650 v2 Price $583.00
8 Core: E5-1680 v2 Price $1723.00
12 Core: E5-2697 v2 Price $2614.00
So if the price of the machine with the 4-Core CPU is 3000$, expect the upgraded price to 12 Core for no less than 5500$.
The AMD GPU's would cost around 600$ to 1300$ (for 2 GPU's).
Add in the new SSD, which'll cost no less than 500$ for 256GB (That's how much the even slower ones cost today).
So total we are looking at a cost around 1500$ for only CPU+GPU+SSD minimum. Add in the memory and all, I think the 3000$ model will cost Apple around 2K to build.
This box is for running Apple Pro Apps. They are all OpenCL based. Actually I think the world is moving to OpenCL.
Seriously..... move on if you can't figure it out. Apparently you are looking for a gaming rig.....
Yes it is useless for just web surfing and making forum posts. But they got YOU covered, notice the iPad they announced. Get one of those and save $2,500.
If you can't figure out why someone might want this you don't need one.
Happy about the price however, December!!! So much for the fall...
Technically, the first 20 days of December are still fall.
D.
Prediction: The 4K and 5K displays (I'm guessing two displays: 24" at double 1080p and 30" at double the current 27" resolution,) weren't ready yet, but that they will be available at the same time as the Mac Pro - possibly a little earlier. But will require Thunderbolt 2, so only the Mac Pro and Retina MacBook Pros will support them.
They will be a quiet 'update the web page and issue a press release' release, not an event.
My prediction is that they won't be available this year. 4K displays are way too expensive and are a niche product at the moment. Even more niche than a Mac Pro. Apple stopped being a niche company years ago. When they are more affordable, Apple will be the first one to mass market them though I bet.
I guarantee someone's friend will throw their empty can of soda down the top of this thinking it's trash.
So much for the predictions that the 12-core model would come in at $1999!
Think about this for more than 10 seconds and you'll realize that a 4-core Xeon for $3k with 12 gigs of RAM is not even close to a reasonably good bang for the buck, even if we use Apple standards.
Looks like the 6-core version is priced at $3999 with 16gigs of RAM...even worse.
An 8-core "old" Mac Pro is priced less than that, and I assure you that the newer Xeons are not twice as fast as the old ones.
Always thought that winter started earlier, but you're right.
The astronomical winter (Northern Hemisphere) 2013 begins on
Saturday, December 21
and ends on
Wednesday, March 19.
Watch pre-orders start December 20th.
When you think of Apple's CUDA strategy, think iOS and Flash.
Apple is trying to create a compelling OpenCL platform that will lead to the demise of CUDA.
No idea if they can succeed, but having a single company control all of parallel computing is a bad thing.
Was really expecting a new iMac-thin Cinema Display with the laminated screen treatment. The current lineup of Apple displays looks really outdated in stores sitting next to the much-improved and less reflective iMacs. I suppose it could still happen as a quiet update in the coming weeks.
Happy about the price however, December!!! So much for the fall...
No new displays? ...fail
edit anyone else notice on apple's site on specs in the box, its just the computer and power cord... no keyboard or mouse...
Well to be fair, fall ends December 20th in the states! So they could technically release it in December and it would be fall.
Actually I think the new 4 core one has less profit margins than the old 4 core one. So it's more bang for the buck than before.
The 6 core one comes with faster AMD GPU's, and I don't think price is unjustified either. Apple will always have more margins on their pro products and if the base model costs 2k to make (which it actually might), then 3k doesn't sound too high.
For me, as a pure development machine that will occasionally dabble in video and graphics, the entry level is a BIG step up from a fully loaded Mac mini.
My only other option for a headless desktop Mac is a new MBP, but then I'm paying a premium for a screen I will rarely use. (I prefer dual monitor setups with the same size screen and at least 23")