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Mac Pro Launching in December with Xeon Processors, Dual FirePro GPUs and PCIe Flash Storage

Just wished new displays were announce with one option at 4k. Now I can only see such upgrade maybe at WWDC next year.

Prices look good. 12 core probably will be around $6k. Expensive but as professional you can recoup that money quickly.
 
Zerotolerance said:
Was really expecting a new iMac-thin Cinema Display with the laminated screen treatment. The current lineup of Apple displays looks really outdated in stores sitting next to the much-improved and less reflective iMacs. I suppose it could still happen as a quiet update in the coming weeks.
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It's sad to see those fat monitors being bigger than the iMac.
Crossing my fingers on silent update. :)
Mostlikely a December release with the Mac Pro though.
 
This is a bit pricier than I was expecting, especially since I'll have other expenses for peripherals. But it looks like a phenomenal machine. I have two months to save my pennies....
 
gugy said:
Just wished new displays were announce with one option at 4k. Now I can only see such upgrade maybe at WWDC next year.
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Seeing they still charge $1000 for a 1440 27inch display screen they would have to charge another $3000 for a 4k display.
 
Still looks like a trash can. No thx. Only thing I like is Thunderbolt 2.0, which will come to next Macbook Pros eventually.
 
iBug2 said:
4K displays are way too expensive and are a niche product at the moment.
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Not if you're doing professional video. This year's NAB show was all about 4K cameras, production, and post production equipment. 4K may not be consumer mainstream yet, but stuff is being shot and edited in 4K now in digital cinema. The new Mac Pro is going to cut the cost of that workflow.

Also, there is already a 4K set from Seiki that's just under $900. Doesn't have many bells and whistles, but it's meant for you to plug in your own bells and whistles and use it as a display.
 
xdhd350 said:
Not if you're doing professional video. This year's NAB show was all about 4K cameras, production, and post production equipment. 4K may not be consumer mainstream yet, but stuff is being shot and edited in 4K now in digital cinema. The new Mac Pro is going to cut the cost of that workflow.

Also, there is already a 4K set from Seiki that's just under $900. Doesn't have many bells and whistles, but it's meant for you to plug in your own bells and whistles and use it as a display.
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That's a 4K tv. Not a display.

And no, it's still niche. Niche means exactly what you just said. Too expensive for the consumer and too expensive even for most of the Mac Pro users. When it's cheaper will Apple make and sell one imho.
 
iBug2 said:
That's a 4K tv. Not a display.

And no, it's still niche. Niche means exactly what you just said. Too expensive for the consumer and too expensive even for most of the Mac Pro users. When it's cheaper will Apple make and sell one imho.
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Well, in that context, the Mac Pro is a niche product... hence the word PRO in its name. This is not a mainstream computer for the masses... that would be the iMac line. This is a system for working professionals who can write off the cost of the computer and benefit their workflow with time savings which equals money. So I disagree that 4K displays are too expensive for most Mac Pro users.
 
This thing seriously makes no sense to me. Its aimed only at video people. I have an early 2008 mac pro I am itching to replace for music. However I now have to dish out crazy amounts of money for 2 graphics cards i don't need... Id gladly go with a $100 graphics card as I need to power ONE or two average size monitors.

Not sure what to do now. 3k plus having to buy and external Thunderbolt 2 rack for all my samples etc is to pricey. I might have to go PC or try to hold out for the second gen of this new mac pro to see if they offer more options.
 
xdhd350 said:
Well, in that context, the Mac Pro is a niche product... hence the word PRO in its name. This is not a mainstream computer for the masses... that would be the iMac line. This is a system for working professionals who can write off the cost of the computer and benefit their workflow with time savings which equals money. So I disagree that 4K displays are too expensive for most Mac Pro users.
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Like I said, Mac Pro is indeed a niche product but a 4K display right now probably has 10 times less appeal than a Mac Pro. Mac Pro was almost too niche for Apple and they thought about ending it even. You think they'd release a product only 1/10'th of their professional base would buy? Maybe even less.
 
SandboxGeneral said:
At the entry level price point, I'm even tempted to get one. Just need a nice display to go with it.
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I think we glimpsed the new TB display in one of the parts of the Keynote.
It certainly wasn't an imac and it seemed a different form factor than the current TB display.
I seriously thought "why do they have that HP display? Oh wait..."

Just checked the store, nothing.
 
petsounds said:
I like how Apple's endorsement guy for audio recording said, "It's quiet!"
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For guys who do audio for a living that's actually a huge plus. It's very common to put the computer in a separate machine room, which can require expensive extenders. So having a machine this powerful and this quiet is very exciting for audio guys.
 
petsounds said:
I had hoped for an Open CL focused version of Logic, but it appears Apple doesn't care. I'm sad to say, I don't see much justification to buy this machine for audio work. They've left the FirePro cards completely useless with audio, and thus you're spending lots of money on something left unused.
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I agree. Instead of the dual FirePro cards, I would have wanted 6 cores, 32GB of RAM and 512GB of PCIe storage.
 
xdhd350 said:
Not if you're doing professional video. This year's NAB show was all about 4K cameras, production, and post production equipment. 4K may not be consumer mainstream yet, but stuff is being shot and edited in 4K now in digital cinema. The new Mac Pro is going to cut the cost of that workflow.

Also, there is already a 4K set from Seiki that's just under $900. Doesn't have many bells and whistles, but it's meant for you to plug in your own bells and whistles and use it as a display.
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Yeah it can do 4K, but only at 30hz.... That'll kill your eyes if doing real work.
 
Midphase said:
So much for the predictions that the 12-core model would come in at $1999!
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Link?

I'm not saying it's dirt cheap for this machine, just calling out those who insisted the base model absolutely had to cost thousands more than current pricing.
 
New Mac Pro

I work with Photoshop, Lightroom and Final Cut Pro everyday of the week and I have been waiting for a few years for an update to the Mac Pro. Anything that will speed up my work flow in processing times would be greatly appreciated. Processing and working on 3000-4000 RAW images a day gets to be very very time consuming. For me I cannot wait to buy this new Mac Pro.
 
SandboxGeneral said:
At the entry level price point, I'm even tempted to get one. Just need a nice display to go with it.
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It'd be an okay price except that for some reason in the UK Apple are expecting customers to pay an extra 12% on top of our 20% VAT; that's nearly £300 extra for no reason at all, which means they may have priced me out of it unless the education discount is particularly good, as I'd still need to get a couple of RAID enclosures and a new external sound card at the very least.

For a machine with a pair of 2gb professional graphics cards it's really well priced in the US, but I'm not very happy about their international pricing.

I may have to just get the more powerful of the Mac Mini lineup and look into external GPUs or save up to get a new Mac Pro further down the line.
 
paulrbeers said:
Yeah it can do 4K, but only at 30hz.... That'll kill your eyes if doing real work.
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Not in a darkened room, where your persistence of vision smooths it out. That's the same trick they've used in movie theaters since the beginning of 24P film. Although, in the theater, they double flash each frame of film for a pseudo 48hz effect. Cartoons were done at 12fps and nobody complained about their eyes getting killed. People watch 1080 30P all the time without their eyes getting killed.
 
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