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Mac Pro Owners Still Waiting for NVIDIA 8800GT Option... Due Next Month?
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Just for a video card with minimal bump? I have some waterfront property to sell you later, ok?
It is actually sjobs at apple.com
He has replied to two of my emails in regards to this issue over the last couple months including the one that prompted this story.
I think it is a good idea to keep this issue alive and not let Apple forget about it.
Funny how people are saying excellent to this delay because is apple.
If it would have been microsoft the following comments would have been posted.
Leave it to microsoft to **** their user base over by delaying a simple card upgrade.
microsoft is the only company in the world that would do this to its customers. i MEAN THE UPDATE WAS 2 MONTHS AGO whats is stopping them from releasing a simple video card updgrade.
same old repetetive ****.
completely disregarding the FACT that its the 3rd partys fault. but for some reason always point the finger to microsoft.. vista im looking at you.
the double standard views and bias towards anything apple on this board is sickening.
If it would have been microsoft the following comments would have been posted.
Leave it to microsoft to **** their user base over by delaying a simple card upgrade.
microsoft is the only company in the world that would do this to its customers. i MEAN THE UPDATE WAS 2 MONTHS AGO whats is stopping them from releasing a simple video card updgrade.
same old repetetive ****.
completely disregarding the FACT that its the 3rd partys fault. but for some reason always point the finger to microsoft.. vista im looking at you.
the double standard views and bias towards anything apple on this board is sickening.
Anyone buying an 8 core workstation for personal use is a bit daft. I mean, what on earth are you going to use it for?
Because we're snobs and fiscally irresponsible.
No excuse for anyone but myself. I bought it to enroll in movie editing but so far it's been a great web surfing machine.
DAFT I BE!!! MORE COWBELLS!
Who cares? If someone wants to buy a Mac Pro for personal use, so what? Making judgments against these people is a bit daft.
? Oh, please. Shifting the blame is a tad unprofessional. IMHO, of course.
Assuming the email exchange is legit...
He's not really shifting the blame since Nvidia took responsibility for releasing the upgrade kit. And, indeed, they did not come through.
It's an interesting question, though: who *should* be responsible for creating these drivers? In the Windows world, it is mostly the responsibility of the card maker. The Apple world is different, both from an economic standpoint and by how closed the system is. Surely Apple needs to be heavily involved with something like a graphics card.
Also, what is the big deal? I know very little about OS X's driver model, and nothing about graphics card drivers, but it seems like there is something seriously wrong if a driver needs significant changes to work in such a similar system. I know the bus is different, which is significant, but it's supposed to be a compatible bus.
I have a quad core, 2.6, 5 GB ram and I have no intention to use it for professional use. I just like having a fast desktop. I'm counting on it lasting more than 2 years, though, I do use my Macbook 2.2/4 GB Ram more often these days. I have a 5 year old iMac that I never use. Its for watching movies in the living/dinningroom if I feel the need.
I use mine almost exclusively for the handy Calculator...BUT...sometimes I playback 42 tracks with 100 plug-ins in Pro Tools.
Mac Pros come in 4-core variants, which isn't too unreasonable. Consider that it is the only (somewhat) upgradable Mac. And in the headless desktop category, it's the next step after a Mini.
Well, for me, I want a desktop so that I can have a more powerful, stationary system. I also want to be able to play the newest games with some settings turned up so I can really appreciate the game. I also want the desktop to be a Mac, as I want my laptop and desktop to at least be the same OS. What Apple computer lets me do that? The iMac is basically a MacBook Pro with a slightly faster CPU and Hard Drive, not enough of an improvement.
If I spent $3000 on a desktop, I would to be able to use the latest hardware, or at least be able to upgrade it myself.
But thats just my perspective.
If the 8800GT does arrive it will make me more comfortable about the prospect of moving to a Mac Pro in the future. It is still worrying that AMD/ATI haven't taken the opportunity to put a Mac retail card out for Mac Pro owners. In the G4/G5 days you could expect to see a card from them so you knew you could get a few years with good enough 3D performance.
Another good reason to buy a Mac Pro for personal use is that it's the only desktop that supports the 30" ACD. I'd love to buy a less expensive desktop that has non-Xeon CPUs, non-ECC RAM, and less space for hard drives, but alas Apple won't sell me one. The only other thing that can drive a 30" ACD is a Macbook Pro, which is as or more expensive and less powerful.
No champagne yet... not until the cards are delivered...
Let's see... I needed them two month ago.... But I will take what they give... let's see if this does materialize.
JM
Let's see... I needed them two month ago.... But I will take what they give... let's see if this does materialize.
JM
MacMini & 30" display not compatible?
hmm at work we use the newer MacMinis w/ 30" displays no issues what soever, even the older previous gen model worked with them.
When purchasing my first Apple Mac last year, the macpro to replace my Dual-core set up; i had a blazing fast computer....worked with XP, Linux etc...however i got so sick and tired of the driver issues between the OS, the Motherboard and the motherboard vs the video card and then OS vs Sound card and sound card vs motherboard vs other peripherals, my system slowly was beginning to corrupt, even after working flawlessly for months, i ordered some new parts sold it got a fair chunk of change otwards the MacPro with prospects of future expandability...Hard Drives, Memory and Some Optical drives, but now im stuck with the ati x1900...which is still an excellent card...thats great about ATI though is in most of my experience they last quite a bit and are still well performers past their prime, however i still prefer nVidia...though alot of it is towards a general market of enthusiasts and gaming, they stress test and pull out all the stops with their cards.
so Apple and nVidia need to communicate alittle bit more efficiently and create this card...what would be nice is a compatible nVidia 8800 with both versions of the MacPro.
But if not no big deal...but would be nice.
I mean Apple and ATI seemed to have pretty good open communication especially when it came to fixing and revising the x1900 during that error prone time.
Agreed. Colour me skeptical, but hopeful!
Actually there is quite a lot of venom issued at apple over this whole situation in some threads like this. People might have voted positive on this thread to indicate that they are hopeful that this means the solution is coming soon; but it's impossible to tell. So instead of accusing people of having a double standard please take the time to read up on what people are saying here before you post crap like that.
Indeed. The only party responsible here is Apple. It is up to them to pressure 3rd party vendors and keep the Mac viable. Apple has shown time and again, when they want 3rd party developers to port products to the Mac they have done so successfully and on a timely manner.
The Windows world is pushing ahead with dozens of professional and consumer peripheral options while we beg on these posts just to stay a year or so behind their offerings.
I can't help but think this is Apple as usual not wanting us to have more options in order to force us to upgrade to their latest hardware. Other than the Mac Pro, Apple has been careful to design products with no upgrade path built into them. Pathetic way of doing business if you ask me.
As far as this being a hardware issue, it is my understanding the card will boot fine in Windows mode. With the nVidia 8800GT issue, Apple is starting to upset and alienate their pro user base (such as myself).
G5 Quad, similar story...
We bought the G5 Quad when it came out (with the standard video card) and then wanted to upgrade. Even though Apple sold upgraded cards WITH the G5 you could not buy the after the fact! We sold that machine at a loss - felt very screwed by Apple - but still buy more & more!
Went to a 17" MBP C2D
24" iMac Extreme (4GB RAM AFTERMARKET)
and this week picking up an AIR.
We bought the G5 Quad when it came out (with the standard video card) and then wanted to upgrade. Even though Apple sold upgraded cards WITH the G5 you could not buy the after the fact! We sold that machine at a loss - felt very screwed by Apple
- but still buy more & more! Went to a 17" MBP C2D
24" iMac Extreme (4GB RAM AFTERMARKET)
and this week picking up an AIR.
my sincere hope is that Apple has an 8800 card which is HDCP compliant .
possibly using HDMI or the like ... to allow for HD ppv's onto a real tv from your macpro. just like an apple tv.
also to allow for Blu-Ray movie disc playback.
that's my hope. lets see if it comes true. If true, that could explain a bit of the delay to make it compatible.
possibly using HDMI or the like ... to allow for HD ppv's onto a real tv from your macpro. just like an apple tv.
also to allow for Blu-Ray movie disc playback.
that's my hope. lets see if it comes true. If true, that could explain a bit of the delay to make it compatible.
yeah, i'm pretty chaffed about this as well. my Pro came w/ 2 of the 7300's in it, but i only have 1 monitor (it was ordered for me). however, since the mac moboard doesn't allow for SLI of the graphics cards, i just have one sitting in there taking up space. finding out that my options were severely limited for upgrading the card was pretty depressing.
still waiting on a decent card. please don't disappoint...
still waiting on a decent card. please don't disappoint...
sorry but this issue is not just about the macpro. Apple could be the strongest one on the market but I don't see any meaning in waiting for some ****** hardware what any standard personal computer can run without any problem.
Same s**t with the imacs, macminis etc.....you have no chance to update everything yourself or after your needs. You have to wait, wait wait wait and again...you have to wait.
Sorry but this is 2008 !!! Apple sells this stuff like bread in WW2 and if they continue this way I see no chance for them to keep me waiting. I better upgrade my pc system with half of the money when ever I want and with what I want.
Same s**t with the imacs, macminis etc.....you have no chance to update everything yourself or after your needs. You have to wait, wait wait wait and again...you have to wait.
Sorry but this is 2008 !!! Apple sells this stuff like bread in WW2 and if they continue this way I see no chance for them to keep me waiting. I better upgrade my pc system with half of the money when ever I want and with what I want.