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Mac Pro Supplies Tightening as WWDC Approaches
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I'm sorry, but you're not a Pro User if you're using a machine that's not even as fast as a 2009 Mac mini. A G5 couldn't even run Pro Apps around these days.
yep, it's been long enough, WWDC would be the perfect time and place to bring out a new mac pro.
I just put dual port 40 Gbps Ethernet cards in a pair of my $1400 Dell mini-towers - the FrankenMac tied together by T-Bolt couldn't handle that.
T-Bolt isn't a way to build a modular system - it's way too slow to connect CPUs and modern networks.
Nice... But you forgot to delete the optical drive.
dont worry - in true
manner that optical drive willa) not work properly in the first place
b) stop burning discs after a year
c) fail completely once out of apple care
its true purpose is that of an added air intake for the slightly higher clocked (it is a pro, right) cpu
Seriously though, I could care less about apple shipping the pro without an optical drive. I learned to hate their optical drives. They are the worst part of every apple computer I have ever owned.
Let em whine. I'm willing to bet that more than 50% of the people here on MR that do the whining on new product releases weren't buying anything in the first place. Just the same old "Misery loves Company" and some people are just sad individuals that can't keep their negativeness to themselves.
It won't run the current version of the Pro Apps. It probably can run the old ones. For example, human auditory perception hasn't advanced much in last couple of decades. Pro audio workload (unless trying to digitize even more instruments ) is pretty flat in terms on increase computational demands.
A sound studio with a G5 in the corner running sound is generating money. Hence the real connotation of "Pro". ( generates revenue .... not highest geekbench scores. )
But yes if it really was generating revenue it should have generated more than plenty to be replaced so can run modern updates to the software. If it is not generating real revenue and hence not replaced (because no budget) than yes it is questionable as a "Pro" status in that context.
Probably AMD, as they are better for compute this time around. I'm sure there will be options for high end NVIDIA cards though.
Who writes this crap?
How would it be difficult for Apple to announce a new Mac Pro with a ship date of September? It has happened before. They did not find it difficult announcing it them, so why is now any different?
We are dumping all our Apple products this year and going VMWARE.
Apple needs to virtualize their OS or they will be done soon enough.
Military is going VDI,Hospitals ETC ETC. More schools want to but can't afford it.
We are spending 500K updating the school network and giving the kids Chrome Books and running VMWARE.
It is the future of computing for cooperations/Schools and if you work in the Networking business better start learning it real fast.
Data Centers are the future!
Apple needs to virtualize their OS or they will be done soon enough.
Military is going VDI,Hospitals ETC ETC. More schools want to but can't afford it.
We are spending 500K updating the school network and giving the kids Chrome Books and running VMWARE.
It is the future of computing for cooperations/Schools and if you work in the Networking business better start learning it real fast.
Data Centers are the future!
Actually yes, if Apple doesn't get out of slow gear, I'll be upgrading to a Dell T7600 by the end of the year. I really DON'T want to be on Windozes, but if that's what I gotta do, that's what I gotta do (or hackintosh
And yes, people are abandoning Apple's Pro line, if this update doesn't happen this year, or is crappier than a comparable T7600 level machine, expect more to jump ship.
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As a video Professional, I've got a small fleet of Mac Pros connected by an XSan fiber network. We currently run Lion. And that's only because my XSan Server is a 2007 Mac Pro that can't run 10.8. But soon we will be switching to twin Mac Minis for XSan servers, and I find no issues with upgrading to 10.8 in my testing. (and I love FCP X!)
I don't reject iOS at all. I'm embracing it and looking for ways to incorporate that into our workflows. We're not there yet, no doubt, but I never rejected the notion of where the puck is going. Lets take this new thing, and figure out what we can do with it. That's my perspective. And I'm not at all afraid that iOSification of OS X is going to destroy OS X. That just doesn't make any sense. Hush down chicken little. Everything is going to be ok.
Nothing Apple has done to OS X has removed "Pro" features from OS X. You can still get to them just fine. And I actually do like LaunchPad now that it has spotlight built into it in 10.8. I love notification center. Mission Control is just awesome. Messages, also awesome. I got very little to complain about.
And Apple Doesn't Care? I think this is completely false.
Lets not forget that many software developers also love the Mac Pro. It's the ultimate truck. There still are many industries that depend on a rugged full-featured truck to do their jobs, and they are also an important lifeblood of the Apple ecosystem, from video to software, to audio. It all fits. So there is a lot of motive there to re-launch the next gen [All American?] Mac Pro, and make a big fuss about it. WWDC is the right place for a relaunch, the best place, even if it does't ship right away. The audience that will buy up a Next Gen Mac Pro will be there in person, and very much paying attention. But Apple does need to impress, that is certain.
I can't tell you how bad I want Apple to re-invent the Mac Pro. I love that machine. I can't replace a HDD in an iMac and get it back up and running in less then 1 hour. I can do that with a Mac Pro. This is a requirement for the pro industry. Time is money. Pro's need the ability to troubleshoot their own hardware and quickly. That's part of the game we work in. Taking it to the Apple Genius Bar is just not efficient operations.
Also, I want to see more development with Thunderbolt. I see the long game as Thunderbolt being a replacement for current enterprise level fiber switches as Thunderbolt and fiber switch network storage seem to distant cousins. And if I understand what I'm reading, Fusion drives are also a cousin to enterprise tech. Seems to be a trend that Apple is taking Enterprise tech and adapting it for prosumer/consumer markets, making it easier to utilize, (meaning more efficient) and I like where this is all going. I don't think the ProApp industry & markets have anything to fear. I see good things ahead. Call me an optimist. Yes.
The Mac Pro could easily be half the size it is now, all while expanding it's feature set. A dual Xeon workstation with 4 Thunderbolt ports? YES! SATA Express? YES! (maybe too soon) Flexible internal drive docks that can take 3.5/2.5/ or SSD Stick storage options, depending on user preference? YES! Buit-in hardware RAID controllers in every Mac Pro? YES! Roll your own Fusion drive with Disk Utility and the Mac Pro's built-in RAID hardware? YES!! The latest GPU options on the market and a heavy focus on Open CL? YES!!
The next version of FCP X with a true, integrated replacement for FC Server and proper asset archiving workflows, YES!
TAKE OUR MONEY!
well it's about time.
apple should introduce a new mac pro at the WWDC, i need an upgrade and if apple releases a new mac pro at WWDC i'll definitely buy it.
apple should introduce a new mac pro at the WWDC, i need an upgrade and if apple releases a new mac pro at WWDC i'll definitely buy it.
Of course we need USB 3! It would be criminal for apple to omit it on a new Mac Pro. Every new external Hard Drive being built today has this inexpensive interface, and professional video production already uses these drives daily. Firewire is lame compared to USB 3!
Infiniband would be nice, although I wonder it thunderbolt is becoming a viable and modern alternative to this...
4K video production is here, and it we don't have a new Mac Pro with multiple cores and PCI slots for GPU expansion, the industry will continue abandoning the mac platform on the high end.
I very much doubt you can find a single example of when Apple has announced new/upgraded Mac hardware 4 months before its release date. Sales of the current model would drop to zero while people wait.
I think you are confusing "commercial" and "industrial" users with "pro" users. You see, "pro" is a shortening of the word "professional". There are professional photographers, graphics designers, print shops, and documentary film makers who are "pro" users and also do not require a rack-mount system, InfiniBand or whatever else sort of nonsense you are trying to bring into this conversation.
Perhaps the examples you cite may be needed for on-the-fly video transcoding if you are Dish Network or for some kind of server-related function, but your argument is laughable that the Mac Pro is only for high-end home users.
Why does the MP need to shrink? Why do people want to take away optical drives? Why do people want to take away the Xeons?
Should it be rack mountable? Yes
Personally I don't care about TB it adds little value to the tower.
Should it be rack mountable? Yes
Personally I don't care about TB it adds little value to the tower.
So if Apple disappoints you at WWDC, you are going to get an HTC One (which AT&T has dropped due to poor sales) instead of an iPhone? So your product purchase decisions are dictated not by your actual needs, but by whether the parent company of the product you are about to buy announces new products at WWDC? Could your statement be more ridiculous?
You love iPad Mini even though it doesn't meet your expectations and you prefer the Galaxy Note. So you are still able to "love" one thing but prefer another? Do you also cheat on your wife?
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You are aware that the Mac Pro is not even a tiny blip on Apple's bottom line, right? And you do know that if everyone stopped buying Mac Pros for three months, it wouldn't make any difference to Apple's quarterly results which are counted in billions of dollars, right? The reason is that the vast majority of Mac sales are driven by the iMac, MacBook Air and Pros.
So no, your argument doesn't make sense. Especially if Apple is going to try to "re-invent" the pro segment. The Mac Pro is likely to be the one Mac model that will be manufactured in Texas this year, and if true, Apple will most likely have completely re-invented this machine.
No they didn't. I looked it up after reading this, and found the One still on sale on AT&T's website.
ahahah .. nice one.. I don't live in usa & i don't care about AT&T.. BTW I love HTC One.. Love the design .. Open System .. not closed like iOS..
For me HTC One is better then iphone ... (iphone is now ex-GF
)as far as ipad is concern I love its design thinner bezel on sides .. nothing else if any Android/ Windows base tablet give me that option I will buy it..
I wish i can cheat but its not possible cuz I love her (please don't be too personal btw i love your logic)
The last time it happened the components they used had already been on the market for months and it was available for pre-order shortly after they announced it. I don't believe they would be able to let you pre-order so far in advance of Intel's NDA ending for Ivy Bridge-EP and it would kill off any sales on remaining systems.
Maybe they will announce something, maybe it'll use low-end workstation or consumer parts , maybe it'll use existing parts, maybe they will just say something is coming in September, but those all seem unlikely.
It sure would make sense to release new major versions of Aperture and Logic Pro to coincide with the release of new professional hardware.
(likelihood of actually happening, 0.000001%)
Oh no there will be new whining about the price, looks, and of course it isn't shipping fast enough!!!