As a long time apple user, I feel obligated to complain. The mac pro is a horrible value. The base, 2800 dollar configuration gives you a graphics card worth $39 to newegg. A whopping 2GB of ram, worse spec than you get in a macbook. a 320gb hard drive, the likes of which costs less than 40 dollars at retail. Don't tell me that "yeah, but apple has xeon processors" or, "yeah, but apple has always charged a bit of a premium". Don't forget that apple got out of the powerpc game specifically to address the issue of bi-yearly (or less) update cycles. It doesn't matter what anyone wants to say in terms of justifying it, the Mac Pro represents the worst of Apple's hardware offerings in terms of value.