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Or you could have just bought,
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HAHA

but it is still bit of a gap tho, lol
 
..I'm just waiting for Avid to finish testing these new machines and update their list of qualified systems for Media Composer 5 so I can make up my mind about which one to buy.
My experience with Avid and getting system approval is this. Either wait forever or just bite the bullet.
We've been 3 out of 4 with the bite the bullet ;)
Just dont expect major support if your running an un-qualified system.
But honestly, they are all overkill for Media Composer and Protools.
 
64-bit kernel is now default for the 2010 Mac Pros

64 bit is default for the 2010, I was under the impression that that was also the case for the 2009 Mac Pro.

Can you guys tell me if the 2009 Mac Pro 8-core which I have boot up with 64 bit on start up.?

Or do I have to press 6 and 4 at start up, thanks.
 
My experience with Avid and getting system approval is this. Either wait forever or just bite the bullet.
We've been 3 out of 4 with the bite the bullet ;)
Just dont expect major support if your running an un-qualified system.
But honestly, they are all overkill for Media Composer and Protools.

I used to be a "bite the bullet" kind of guy, but wasted a lot of money that way. This time I'm just going to buy one of the new 17-inch Macbook Pro or a refurbished Mac Pro from last year (they are both fully qualified). That will keep me busy until the new Mac Pros pass qualification. I was looking forward to buy a still in a box discounted 2009-Mac Pro with two 2.66Ghz or 2.99Ghz Xeon "Nahalem" processors but none of the Apple authorized resellers, or the Apple store for that matter, carry them.
 
Apple is bending all you people over a barrel for this thing. So overpriced.
You maybe right to some folks out there but I work for a corporation that doesnt do "Hackintosh" or "FrankenStations".
They want results that is proven in the field its required.
If we need routers, server and frameworks, the IT deals with HP and Cisco.
Im in the Motion/3D/NLE/DAW part. So I need a proven system....and the winner is...
 
If we need routers, server and frameworks, the IT deals with HP and Cisco.
Im in the Motion/3D/NLE/DAW part. So I need a proven system....and the winner is...

For your Motion (not the apple software)/3D/NLE/DAW, HP makes the equally very nice Z800 workstation, but when you finish adding all the components to match a Mac Pro, the price is going to be even higher than the Mac. And of course you can't run apple programs on it.
 
For your Motion (not the apple software)/3D/NLE/DAW, HP makes the equally very nice Z800 workstation, but when you finish adding all the components to match a Mac Pro, the price is going to be even higher than the Mac. And of course you can't run apple programs on it.
I have a 2 year old Boxx 8400s loaded with everything for Maya and Renderman. I have tested AE CS5 (running Windows 7).
So far, its par with last years Mac Pro running same with SL.
But I need these systems separate.
If shoot of my mouth and claim I can do all that in one box....you get the picture :)
 
64 bit is default for the 2010, I was under the impression that that was also the case for the 2009 Mac Pro.

Can you guys tell me if the 2009 Mac Pro 8-core which I have boot up with 64 bit on start up.?

Or do I have to press 6 and 4 at start up, thanks.

I just checked with my 2008 2.8 8 core and Snow Leopard 10.6.4 on "Activity Monitor" and most critical process says Intel (64 bit).

Also do this: Go to the "System Preference" on your hard drive location or Applications / System Preference and press command + i, Get info. If you see the "Open in 32-bit mode" unchecked then you are in 64 bits. I know I am in 64 bits because now I can do renders where I could see Maya rendering using 8 GB of memory, where before it just refused or took forever. This is another way to get your system in 32 or 64 bits as the system checks on this for the next reboot.

As for the new 12 and 24 cores Mac Pros the performance is huge but so is the 2010 price and I blame Intel for this. In 2008 the performance on a $2800 Mac Pro was 75% from the top 3.2. Today for $2500 - $2900 I will downgrade my current 8 core even with the 4 core 3.2 GHz option, at least rendering. But why on earth do I want a multicore machine if not for Maya rendering.

Cinebench 11.5
Mac Pro 2008 8 core: 6.6 ($2800)
Mac Pro 2010 4 core 2.8: 5 ($2500)
Mac Pro 2010 4 core 3.2: 5.6 ($2900)
This is after 3 years.
I know single threaded or 97% of all uses will be faster on new systems. But this is not the main reason I am interested in multicore machines.

So, maybe next year will be my next $3000 Mac Pro upgrade.
If you have a similar machine upgrade the memory first, then the Graphic Card and after this the HD.
 
...Also do this: Go to the "System Preference" on your hard drive location or Applications / System Preference and press command + i, Get info. If you see the "Open in 32-bit mode" unchecked then you are in 64 bits...
Hey thanks for that. We havent fully decided on bringing all licenses (maya and rman) to mac side but with the future who knows :)
 
Dual socket XEONs Vs gaming rigs

Apple is bending all you people over a barrel for this thing. So overpriced.

Nope, you are wrong. Intel prices went to the roof in the last 2 years for high end processors and Dual socket Xeons. NEVER, compare 1 socket desktop machines agains dual socket Xeon ones. Honestly the entry level 4 core Mac Pros are not interesting. These are just for people interested in occasional Pro Mac software (FCP suite). The real Xeon benefit is in Dual socket configurations and as many pointed here, these systems are expensive, even if you buy one form HP, Boxx or Dell. And even if you build one yourself and match every spec (Fancy aluminum cases, dual coolers, Xeon 5600, dual socket motherboards, quality power supply, etc).
 
You're not very smart to even think Apple or any company would build computers in the US. An already overpriced machine times 10 at least? No thanks.

Can you quote us any sources on that 10x more expensive estimate? Who knows, you may be right, though- Chinese labor is incredibly cheap.

However, I don't see the reason why you need to be hostile about his statement. Is it unreasonable to ask for Apple to cut back some off their huge profit margins on these products? And with many of the manufacturing quality-control issues on recent overseas-manufactured Apple products such as the imac, I think that's a legitimate concern.

This is Apple we're talking about here. This company is making record amounts of profit- across the board, on pretty much everything they make. Including the Mac Pros. They're not scraping by on narrow margins. On a premium product such as a Mac Pro, they can certainly afford to do at least a partial assembly here. They're like Nike. That company also makes great stuff... but $200 dollar shoes don't need to be made in China to be profitable, either. You know they can afford it and rest assured, they will still make money.... they just make gobs more profit this way, that's all.

I guess I would just like my "Apple Tax" go to more American's wallets than just Steve Jobs.

Lets hope that your job isn't outsourced someday like the 9.5 percent of other Americans that are feeling it right now.... because sooner or later, its coming.....
 
Not "Made in the USA"

love to see the made in usa tag. not the silly, designed in california. assembled in china.

The last system Apple built in the US (by Apple) was the original xServe line -- and production levels just couldn't ramp. After screaming and yelling didn't help, production was moved overseas, where screaming, yelling, and having penalty clauses for missing targets became an effective tool it was almightily clear that the US workforce just couldn't cut it. Sad but true.
 
That is incredibly impressive. I don't have the money or computing needs for a Mac Pro, but if I did, I'd definitely pick one of those up. :D
 
As for the new 12 and 24 cores Mac Pros the performance is huge but so is the 2010 price and I blame Intel for this. In 2008 the performance on a $2800 Mac Pro was 75% from the top 3.2. Today for $2500 - $2900 I will downgrade my current 8 core even with the 4 core 3.2 GHz option, at least rendering. But why on earth do I want a multicore machine if not for Maya rendering.

That $2,800 Mac Pro had two processors with a list price of $797 each.

The $2,899 3.2GHz quad has a $562 processor in it.

The $3,499 2.4GHz 2010 8 core has two processors that list for $387 each.

The $4,999 2.66GHz 12-core has two processors that list for $996 each.

Not sure how you can point the finger all at Intel here.
 
A Dell T3500 is $1,199 with 2.8GHz quad Xeon, 3GB RAM, 320GB HD, cheap 2D card and 3 year warranty. You can add a 5770 and 1TB drive for less than $300 if you wanted via 3rd party. Same thing is £1,385 in the UK inc. VAT.

The huge price differences are only for single processor systems, but my point was to highlight their being little need to compare consumer orientated Core i7 systems to make a point when a workstation can be used as a comparison.

And we just rolled out 23 new Dell T3500s at work and it was sad how they benched so poorly but it's not my machine so I'm not going to worry about it.

That and the awful windows operating system.
 
Games don't take advantage of multi-core machines. At least four of those cores would be busy doing... nothing. And then you only have an average graphics card in that machine. And then you would still have an operating system on the Mac for which still nobody except Valve writes games.

And when you're not using this rig to play games, the valid question is there what you need it for. Photoshop? Final Cut? Logic Studio? There isn't anything else in Mac land that could even remotely take advantage of that CPU power. And it certainly doesn't "make Safari snappier".

To really unleash the potential of that machine, the first thing you need to do is install a different operating system.

But at least you can say that you have a noisy workstation that did cost a lot. Guess why at the end of the day I decided to sell my Mac Pro and went with a 27" iMac instead - it's a MUCH better deal.

Folding@Home will take advantage of this machine and why does no one mention MULTI-TASKING maybe each app is only using one core but you can have many apps running at the same time.
 
Folding@Home will take advantage of this machine and why does no one mention MULTI-TASKING maybe each app is only using one core but you can have many apps running at the same time.
Not many people game while running HandBrake. I've left Folding@Home on in the background on quite a few occasions as well. Not that it was intentional.
 
You're not very smart to even think Apple or any company would build computers in the US. An already overpriced machine times 10 at least? No thanks.

Sorry, but tons of computers, from Dell's, Compaq's and cool ones like Alienware are made in usa. yes alot of components are intl, but assembled here.

in this economy, we need more made in usa.

better quality than the suicidal iphone makers.
 
Do I see 2 display cards in there? Are you going to run 4 displays? :)

It seems to be a very popular question, but hasn’t been answered: Does the ATI 5770 work on the 2008 or 2009 Mac Pro?
 
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