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Mac Pro Updates?
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Think little bird.Cheap. Cheap.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! i nearly LOL'd out loud and everyone in the lecture would have looked at me funny!! thats nasty!!
if we got rid of spinning, SSDs would have to be manufactured more - their prices would come down!
as if that would happen
It doesn't work that way. SSD won't be widely adopted until the capacities hit current mechanical level capacities (at least 1TB, which is about to release), and the cost/GB is low enough people would be willing to buy it over mechanical units.if we got rid of spinning, SSDs would have to be manufactured more - their prices would come down!
as if that would happen
Until that happens, SSD's going to remain a performance/niche market, and mechanical will still fill the need for cheap, mass storage.
yea.
i know it sucks.. people are so cheap. the performance from the SSDs isn't that impressive anyway (as Tess has shown) for some RAIDs anyway.
i thought 1TB has already come out? i know there are 2.5" 1TB HDD's that just came out recently, but the SSD would cost about 20x more no doubt.
Yeah that makes sense. Nothing wrong with it though. You can even go as far as to say no one really needs fast computers, we're just impatient.
The 1TB Colossus has been announced, and has even had an update on the cost ($2200USD rather than the original estimate of $2500USD). But I'm not aware of any seller with any ATM. Really soon though (supposed to be this month).yea.
it sucks.. people are so cheap. the performance from the SSDs isn't that impressive anyway (as Tess has shown) for some RAIDs anyway.
i thought 1TB has already come out? i know there are 2.5" 1TB HDD's that just came out recently, but the SSD would cost about 20x more no doubt.
its hard keeping 2 convo's going!
that is ridiculous! what advantages would that even have!??! there are none!
ok so a month, australia will have them in 6 months
Going by Apple's more recent history on the MP though, it would suggest otherwise. So it looks more like the next CPU (Gulftown) to hit before a model update.you would want to hope so! the prices are so darn high!
indeed, i can see the reasons for the price increase - new CPU, faster RAM, new case design etcetc (and they have to make money for the unibody designs) - do you still think it will increase?
You'd be surprised. From a parts POV, it didn't change that much. Look at it this way. The CPU's on the '08's were $862 for the 2.8GHz part last I looked. The base Quad chip is maybe $300 for the 2.66GHz part. So at least a $500 savings there. Only one chipset, rather than two (Northbridge & Southbridge). Those savings could pay for the new board setup (logic board + CPU/memory daughterboard).
Now there's been arguments the sales quantities were/have expected to drop off, and caused the price increase. Personally, that may have a role, but it's not all of it. Greed certainly has it's place.
As for the laptops, they've dropped the prices. They do sell more of them, but that seems to be greed mixed in as well. Apple wants high margins, which translates into high dividends.
And BTW, some of their recent moves, seems to indicatate (rather clearly), Apple's trying to create their own manufacturing system from fab to finished product (at least on the portable, and later, laptop market). So that would include iPod's, iPhone's, MacMini, and even the iMac. That only leaves the MP to rely on other sources, which is currently Intel (CPU to board).
funny how two different conversations end up with greed...
the MPs haven't been selling as well which would indicate a slight increase, but not a massive one. have you seen a price-build comparision between the old and new machines? i havent - but it would be interesting to see.
good point about their iPods/laptops - remember when apple aquired the mobile CPU company? they might put them in their iPhones whenever they get their act together - that would be good but would give them more power haha.
Greed always wins out in the end once the barriers come down or are outright violated without reprocussions (morality, legality, or deregulation).funny how two different conversations end up with greed...
the MPs haven't been selling as well which would indicate a slight increase, but not a massive one. have you seen a price-build comparision between the old and new machines? i havent - but it would be interesting to see.
good point about their iPods/laptops - remember when apple aquired the mobile CPU company? they might put them in their iPhones whenever they get their act together - that would be good but would give them more power haha.
It was PA Semi, and it seems obvious they want to make their own chips, as it can allow more control, and custom features other vendors don't have. Not a bad way to go, as the QC & functionality will hopefully improve. If not, I'd hope the consumers have enough sense not to buy the products.
Greed always wins out in the end once the barriers come down or are outright violated without reprocussions (morality, legality, or deregulation).
It was PA Semi, and it seems obvious they want to make their own chips, as it can allow more control, and custom features other vendors don't have. Not a bad way to go, as the QC & functionality will hopefully improve. If not, I'd hope the consumers have enough sense not to buy the products.
lucky somebody has a memory! it will probably end up like the old days with the PPC chips. hopefully they are smart enough to be innovative with it. either way i wont be purchasing an iPhone so it doesnt bother me.
It's been in MR on several occasions, and not that long ago.
Some articles on talent (chip designers) as well, which combining the two, gives a strong indication they do want to make their own parts.And no, I won't be purchasing an iPhone either. I don't own an iPod, but I've given a couple as gifts.
It's been in MR on several occasions, and not that long ago.
i saw it about a month ago - but my memory is bad
. it would be good if they do develop their own chip, if they do it properly they could really make the iPod line even more successful (and not just a fasion statement like it has been lately.)i have my iPod 5G - apart from my MBP and mobile its the gadget that i have most
great for drumming along to and as a media center in the car (i hate CDs!). 
I'd hope the consumers have enough sense not to buy the products.
Come on now, this Apple you are talking about.
Thank god someone had this thread open because I was thinking the same thing. I need a Mac Pro right now, but I just want to know if it's worth waiting for a new Mac Pro update.
probably worth investing in a 2007/2008 MP
saves you heaps for not much more of an increase.Just got a Quad 2.93 and I wish there was some kind of upgrade insurance because I will be upset if there is a speed boost.
There was a strong consensus that there would not be an upgrade when I pulled the trigger a month ago but the recent chip releases (i.e. Xeon 3500 series at 3.33 Ghz) is worrying me.
There was a strong consensus that there would not be an upgrade when I pulled the trigger a month ago but the recent chip releases (i.e. Xeon 3500 series at 3.33 Ghz) is worrying me.
probably worth investing in a 2007/2008 MP
Do you think there is enough power for the 2009 model (Nehalem) low-end one for my needs? I can buy one for 2249 instead of 2449. I do really heavy photoshopping as well as final cut HD video editing.
I don't want to perform surgery on a newborn.
It would also be an expensive endeavor. I also did not realize at the time I purchased that I was getting a 3500 series without 1333 memory. I think I would have held off if I realized it then. But the 3580 looks like a 5500 to me and would have been well worth the wait. It's my own fault and it's out of my hands now.