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Well they can't be exactly the same. You know, one being an inch bigger and all...
Actually it's more like a cool set of non BMW standard alloys on a BMW. They still look as good, but the some people will complain that they aren't REAL BMW alloys
Dell 2408 REVIEWS!
I finally found two reviews, and have put them in this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=5171115
I finally found two reviews, and have put them in this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=5171115
Only skimmed the thread here, but I can tell you I was monitor hunting too. I got the impression that Apple's monitors are way overdue for a refresh, so i would say they are not the best deal, but they are purdy. The Dell looks cool, but something tells me Dell is just too cheap. I am saving for the brand new Viewsonic VP2650wb 26" widescreen LCD Display. I like the design, and they have a better track record IMHO. And they are easier to deal with if you have dead pixels.
Not quite, the panels is a mixed bag and if your lucky you could get the s-ips panel from dell but the circuitry and board and backlighting is superior in the ACD as to the dell. There is a reason why the ACD cost a bit more.
I'm thinking about getting a Display also for my MacPro but waiting on Apple to update their cinema display but if thay don't hurry soon that Dell displays looks very tempting.
Instead of waiting forever, why dont you avoid the dell and look at ebay, alot of people are selling 23" ACD pretty much brand new much cheaper. Especially 20" ACDs.
Where would i find this information about the better backlighting and circuitry?
I mean i know the Dell (HC models) has a special lamp which has a broader spectrum of colour which would technically make it better than the ACD with its standard lamp. However i'm sure you wouldn't make your statement without proof that the Apple one is actually better.
Also i remember in older models that the circuitry in the apple's and the Dells was exactly the same, but the apple was still more expensive. However i'm also assuming here you have information on the type of circuitry used in both the ACD and the Dell and can prove that the Apple is better.
You wouldn't just be stating unproven facts now would you?
Yes of course, you are right, because, of course, a year old Apple screen is still far better than a brand new Dell. Of course you do have a link to a review or article that proves this right?
I mean, this wouldn't be just another biased comment now would it?
Just to add the 14ms response time for the 23" ACD is actually the black&white response rate, not the gray-to-gray response rate. Typically b&w response rate is much higher than g2g rate. Some of the other displays may have 6ms as response time but it's actually a g2g response rate.
Take a look at this
Take a look at this
Another point I'd like to bring up is that many people seem to insist on getting an S-IPS panel. (Mine is an S-IPS as well)
While the panel is in fact more suited for games, the differences compared to a S-PVA are minimal in that regard. S-PVA hower, is more suited for graphics work, as it gives you a larger color palette (professional PVA panels support 10 bit, instead of 8). In all cases it provides you with a higher contrast and richer blacks! I found this out after some searching on digital photography and photoshop forums! Google it!
--Erwin
While the panel is in fact more suited for games, the differences compared to a S-PVA are minimal in that regard. S-PVA hower, is more suited for graphics work, as it gives you a larger color palette (professional PVA panels support 10 bit, instead of 8). In all cases it provides you with a higher contrast and richer blacks! I found this out after some searching on digital photography and photoshop forums! Google it!
--Erwin
I have just opted for the Dell.
I hate Dell, but their displays are so much cheaper than the Apple ones. The Dell makes better commercial sense..
I picked up the new 08 24 inch for £420 inc VAT and delivery. With a 0 dead pixel guarantee and a 4 year next day replacement warranty.
My beloved 20inch ACD will have to go on ebay.. :-(
I hate Dell, but their displays are so much cheaper than the Apple ones. The Dell makes better commercial sense..
I picked up the new 08 24 inch for £420 inc VAT and delivery. With a 0 dead pixel guarantee and a 4 year next day replacement warranty.
My beloved 20inch ACD will have to go on ebay.. :-(
Another vote for the 23" ACD. I just bought one with my Mac Pro on Sunday. It's very bright and colors are excellent.
I just ordered a Dell 2408 for the office. Will see.
I note that Apple Cinema 23'' are cheaper second hand on Ebay than a new Dell, but of course no guarantee.
I note that Apple Cinema 23'' are cheaper second hand on Ebay than a new Dell, but of course no guarantee.
The colours on the Dell are excellent and it is bright too. The question is which one is better.
Well my proof is the countless reviews done by professionals comparing dell vs. apple cinema display, just google for yourself and see who wins and I've owned both 24" dell and 23" acd and can tell you backlight/color rendition is far superior on the acds. Just because something is brighter in spec doesnt mean its better.
There was an article a year or two back from a professional photographer who took both dell and apple screens apart just to see what makes the difference and he concluded the parts (circuitry/board/backlighting/glass) on the ACD to have better materials and the way it was installed as well. If you google I'm sure you can find that article somewhere. Plus why do you think almost all top professional artists/graphics designer use ACD's there's got to be a reason and not just because they get paid very well, if the quality is exactly duplicate I'm sure most people (even rich people) would like saving that nice chunk of change. And I've just told you what those reasons are.
And usually when things are more expensive there is a reason why it is expensive due to better material used, sure the panels are the same but like I said the circuitry/boards/backlighting/glass materials used on the acd is superior and the better quality. Apple and Dell are not idiots. I've even heard around that Apple deals the same glass and materials used from Eizos (world leading monitors).
Just remember I'm not saying the Dell 24" whatever 2407/2408 are trash they are still very nice displays for the $ but I'm very picky about on the quality of the screen since an external monitor usually lasts the longest in a system, I choose to use the absolute best displays available (in my budget range other wise I'd opt out for a fully loaded Eizo).
Well for one: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6470175-7.html?tag=btn
"Apple trumped the Dell in our DVD-playback test, displaying less digital noise and more-realistic skin tones, and it won the more technical rounds, with more-vivid colors and better grayscale differentiation. This is the monitor of choice, especially if you own an Apple computer, since the Apple OS provides additional configuration options."
I'm sure you can google to find other reviews with similar results and the article I mentioned about the backlight/circuitry/board/glass deal. Tell me if Dell and Apple used the same panels on this review why did the apple have the better quality in screen?? Could it be other components that are better inside the ACD and that the circuit/board/chip that powers the same screen could be programed to power the display with better color rendition as well??
And finally yes this review was in 2006 but keep in mind apple has updated their ACD as well to newer/brighter backlighting as well and still using better parts. And yes the newer dells are still brighter but thats about it =/
LOL...ditto. That is a awful lot of money for a pair of fuzzies!!!
It kinda reminds me of the pickup truck I saw the other day. Had a No#3 in the back window and a pair of tennis balls in a net bag dangling from the trailer hitch!!!
You made the right choice my friend, you will NOT regret the ACD!
I noticed Dell's specs on sheet always is a bit better than against the ACDs but once you see it side by side its a different story with the ACDs with much better color rendition and no problems in gaming with fast refresh rate, I played half life 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Bioshock, Call of duty 2, F.E.A.R., Crysis on the ACD and it looks gorgeous and no problems with the refresh rate it looks awesome and fast as hell.
got my acd yesterday, i have to say that this thing is absolutely amazing!!! no dead pixels, very even screen and no pink hue (or at least i can't tell if it has it
). Also, thought id let people know that ive been UT2004 on and off and the refresh rate seems perfect, ive noticed nothing by the way of ghosting etc etc