Mac Sales Continue to Slide Amid Lack of Updates

[oliversl]

I love how some people seem to actually think that Apple has like 100 employees in total that are all working on iPhone, iPad, Watch, the car, and all the operating systems.

You do realize Apple has like 120,000 employees, right? They're not exactly scrambling to find enough people to roll out a new i7 MacBook Pro, they just don't feel they need to yet for whatever reason.

You missed my point, Apple has only 3 executive running the company: Cook, Ive and Federighi

 

[Even Longer]

Problem with creating new frameworks is getting them adopted.

Second problem is having that framework be able to back up its claim to the throne.

Metal not doing either. Valve and others have made open gl the middle ground between systems for years. Its also allows for headway into Linux...so in theory kill 3 birds with one stone. Apple imo would be better off making open gl better...it be the framework to be the best bridge. Hell few companies bothered to build ground up for Open gl as a start. Wrap up in some cross platform tech (ex. wine)...call it done.

And apple not even doing this in house even. Hitting on apple's home grown applications, again, these have not seen core ground up rebuilds for much of apples innovations. Swift, metal, etc.

While annoying, from a sys admin prespective since you have to push out and patch .net framework changes, its also cool when M$ pushes out revisions of .net....they actually use them. I see the cool aid, its looks tasty. But...how about you drink it first kind of thing. M$ does this.


Why should we have to use your new .net M$ asks the developer? Microsoft answers because its new, its better and 6 months from now when we release office or server product 2017....it will be using it. You can get on the bus now in dev releases and support sites or later. Either way in 6 months to a year when the execs have an idea to build up an application to interface our new stuff...you will learn this. And look, here we are being the first people on the bus.

I know and actually agree. My post was an irony, nothing else...

 

[ackmondual]

At least in the US, the term "PC" is liberally used to identify a "non-Mac" computer in the common vernacular. You see it in print, all over the media and tech circles used this way. Even here in MacRumors, there's several articles that use the "PC" term in this fashion. This is the reason why Apple used it in their ads, as well, no "buying into clever marketing" necessary. Good luck trying to get people to not use "PC" in that fashion.

Thus, a Mac is a (p)ersonal (c)omputer. And yes, a (current) Mac is also a PC.

That's what I've been going with all along, although more strict... to refer to only Windows machines (so no Linux either). At some point few years ago, I stopped caring. When I say a game is for PC, most Mac users will be skeptical anyways and double check that OSX is also supported.

I knew some folks who would call their USB thumb drives, or their SD cards when "memory sticks" when Memory Stick is actually the Sony proprietary format. Did get confusing at times, even though not THAT much.

 

[flyinmac]

We at Apple thank you for bringing to our attention that our "Mac Sales Continue To Slide". We would like to bring to your attention that we supplied said slide! iSlides are located next to inflatable iPools.
View attachment 666257

iPools not to be used with other Apple products. Combined use will result in immediately voiding the other devices warranty. However, if you must combine use, we recommend sliding down the iSlide, into the iPool, while using a powered iMac. We feel more confident that said combination will not result in your calling Apple for replacement of your Apple devices.

 

[ackmondual]

Sorry but Apple is a "gadgets and gizmos" toy company now. With the departure of the Steves it is no longer associating itself with computers (hence shortening the name to just 'Apple' a while back).

The products that get updates nowadays are phones, tablets and watches. That's just the way it is.

I got myself a 12" MacBook last year which in itself is nothing more but a glorified gadget to replace my aging iMac because the days of needing a workhorse computer are over. As much as I love it, it is still used far less than my iPad or iPhone because we are living in the post-PC era.

This is the vision Apple foresees. It is trying to distance itself from computers entirely. I can see future Macs becoming ARM-based and eventually fusing MacOS and iOS into one. By that time, regular computers will simply cease to be.

Apple can do whatever it wants. They can get more people to spend time on tablets and phones, but I see PCs as being around for the foreseeable future. My games, utilities, and productivity stuff work real well on there. Not to mention a keyboard and mouse being ergonomic, and a nice, 24" screen.

 

[mille1j]

Apple's lousy updates and crippled prosumer products forced me to build a Hackintosh.

That said, I should have built a Hackintosh years ago... best 'Mac' I've ever owned.

have any resources that you could point me to that could get me started on doing this? I use macs at work, mostly mini's, which are perfect sized, but my 2012 minis could use an update. they are all quad core i7's so the current mini is a significant downgrade!. Basically, i just want a small chassis, simple graphics card, about 16 GB of ram, 128-256 gb SSD and the fastest processor i can fit in there.

 

[bladerunner2000]

have any resources that you could point me to that could get me started on doing this? I use macs at work, mostly mini's, which are perfect sized, but my 2012 minis could use an update. they are all quad core i7's so the current mini is a significant downgrade!. Basically, i just want a small chassis, simple graphics card, about 16 GB of ram, 128-256 gb SSD and the fastest processor i can fit in there.

This site has it all:

https://www.tonymacx86.com/

 

[tha_man]

My Lenovo y700:
2.6Ghz Quad Core i7
16GB DDR4-2400 (user upgradable)
256GB PCI-E SSD + 1TB 7200 RPM HDD (both user upgradeable)
GeForce 960M 4GB dedicated GPU
15" 1080P IPS display

Could you tell me how is the fan noise in Lenovo? I'm looking at that exact model y700, I liked it a lot in the shop, but since it's very noisy in there it's impossible to test this... I'm into recording music so quiet fans are very important to me.

 

[BlargKing]

Could you tell me how is the fan noise in Lenovo? I'm looking at that exact model y700, I liked it a lot in the shop, but since it's very noisy in there it's impossible to test this... I'm into recording music so quiet fans are very important to me.

I never hear the fans on mine at all unless I'm really stressing both the CPU and GPU. Playing Titanfall 2 which pushes the hardware to its limits I can hear a very faint whoosh from the laptop but thats only in a dead quiet classroom. I would say its quieter than my mid-2014 MacBook Pro was under load.

Under normal operation you can't hear the fans at all.

I should also add, even though its very quiet the cooling is very effective. Playing Titanfall 2 for an hour the CPU and GPU topped out at 70 C (20 C ambient air temp) which is 10C cooler than my previous MacBook was under load.

For sound recording I imagine the laptop would be completely silent. I'm pretty sure you can even configure it so that under a certain load the fans will stop completely.

 

[tha_man]

Cool, thanks for the info.