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You may find yourself best served by not upgrading. The performance differences are not larger than what you have. Very nice setup. It's my goal this year to get rid of all the spinning storage. Is that an Apollo I/O?
Yes, Apollo Twin X Duo. Regarding the upgrade from M1 Max to M4 Max, I'm delaying it until end of the year waiting to see long term reviews. If performance increase is less than 50%, then I will wait until M5 Max or M6 Max.
 
Meanwhile, for the average Joe computer user (like me) who just wants a decent productivity-but-also-sometimes-gaming monitor with half-decent colour and a good refresh rate, Dell upgraded their UltraSharp TB 4K monitors a few weeks ago.

$700 gets you a really decent 4k 120Hz monitor with very good picture and colour accuracy, a plethora of connectivity options (including TB4 upstream and downstream with 140W power delivery for budget-conscious Mac users who might want two good monitors but not spend a small fortune on them), and some other kind of neat options like 2.5G Ethernet and a bunch of downstream USB-C and USB-A ports (including 2 C's and 1 A in a front-facing pop-down hub).

EDIT: I forgot two of the coolest features: It actually includes both the HAS and VESA mount hardware in the box, and it has a removable power cable!
people still buy these overpriced ultrasharp monitors? i thought oled took over that market segment.
 
Maybe not for most people but a friend of mine just upgraded to an M4 Mac mini from a M1 Max Mac Studio, and the only thing he misses is the built-in SD card slot.
Perhaps. But it’s not an expensive add on, and not that many people use them. I’m a photographer, and also though I rarely use sd cards, even when I do I would prefer an external solution, faster and easily upgraded. Never understand this obsession of prioritising random single use ports over decent alternative. SD cards are popular, but not so much for the pro.
 
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Perhaps. But it’s not an expensive add on, and not that many people use them. I’m a photographer, and also though I rarely use sd cards, even when I do I would prefer an external solution, faster and easily upgraded. Never understand this obsession of prioritising random single use ports over decent alternative. SD cards are popular, but not so much for the pro.
He's a pro. However, he's not a photo or video pro.
 
people still buy these overpriced ultrasharp monitors? i thought oled took over that market segment.
Dell has plenty of OLED monitors as well. Problem with OLED is that it is not good for productivity use (burn-in from static objects on the screen).

And to answer your question - yes. People still buy them. By the tens of thousands.
 
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It is a good display but priced on the higher side. Would have been nice if it were lower. Not expecting to see a newer display in the very near future.
 
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Margins on everything Apple makes is impressive - among the highest in the industry.

I think Apple will absorb the tariffs, at least for now. We will be able to tell at the next earnings call when they report margin. Others might not be able to, so we may see fewer discounts.
 
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But have you found any which have 218 pixels per inch? That's 6K, not 5K.
Personally, I'll take better connectivity options, the inclusion of both VESA mounting and a fully adjustable HAS, the higher refresh rate and the (much) lower price offered by many third-party monitors over being able to lean in a little closer before seeing that the image is made of pixels. "Retina" is a marketing term, nothing more.
 
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Because then they couldn't sell the stock of Studio Displays they still have on hand at full price.
But there not doing that. The displays are currently available on discount. It was on here just a few days ago.
 
But have you found any which have 218 pixels per inch? That's 6K, not 5K.
ah yes the classic "retina purest" argument, do you actually sit like a foot away from the monitor and try to count each individual pixels?

i and many others went from true retina resolutions, to 4k 32inch and unless you try to zoom in and count the pixels, you won't miss it.
 
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Dell has plenty of OLED monitors as well. Problem with OLED is that it is not good for productivity use (burn-in from static objects on the screen).

And to answer your question - yes. People still buy them. By the tens of thousands.
the burn in is not an issue with the woled lg panels, and any 2nd gen and above samsung QD-oled also doesn't have burn in issues.
 
ah yes the classic "retina purest" argument, do you actually sit like a foot away from the monitor and try to count each individual pixels?

i and many others went from true retina resolutions, to 4k 32inch and unless you try to zoom in and count the pixels, you won't miss it.
Agree to disagree. I'm not interested in 6K or 32" like the person you responded to, but 5K has almost 15 million pixels compared to 4K's ~8.3 million. That's a significant difference and many people do find it very noticeable on a 27" display at normal viewing distance.

If you're talking about gaming, then yeah no advantage. I make do with 4K myself due to affordability but am under no allusions that it's comparable to 5K @ 27" or larger.
 
Agree to disagree. I'm not interested in 6K or 32" like the person you responded to, but 5K has almost 15 million pixels compared to 4K's ~8.3 million. That's a significant difference and many people do find it very noticeable on a 27" display at normal viewing distance.

If you're talking about gaming, then yeah no advantage. I make do with 4K myself due to affordability but am under no allusions that it's comparable to 5K @ 27" or larger.
you're ignoring the other side of the equation, which is 240hz, oled INK black, with .1ms response rate and INFINITE contrast. its not just gaming but productivity as well.
 
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But there not doing that. The displays are currently available on discount. It was on here just a few days ago.
I’m not talking about third-party discounts. The price in the Apple Store is still list price. And they’d have to lower that list price if they kept the old model around alongside the new one.
 
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Perhaps. But it’s not an expensive add on, and not that many people use them. I’m a photographer, and also though I rarely use sd cards, even when I do I would prefer an external solution, faster and easily upgraded. Never understand this obsession of prioritising random single use ports over decent alternative. SD cards are popular, but not so much for the pro.
It's not an obsession, and it's not "prioritizing" - it's just basic user experience and functionality. I need my desktop computer to have every port that I need (now or in the future). TB5, SD, HDMI, USB-A, headphone, etc - these ensure that when i need to plug something in, there's a port for it. I don't have to order a dongle from Amazon and wait a day, I just plug in and go. So, yeah, I want "single use" ports if it means my premium desktop computer is always ready for whatever I need to connect. Why wouldn't you want a plethora of ports? If you don't use them, so what?
 
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ah yes the classic "retina purest" argument, do you actually sit like a foot away from the monitor and try to count each individual pixels?

i and many others went from true retina resolutions, to 4k 32inch and unless you try to zoom in and count the pixels, you won't miss it.
You dont know what you are missing until it miss it. =) As 30 year print designer, there IS a difference. Been running 27" 5K since 2015. Now running 2 27" Dell 4K + 2020 27" iMac... its clear when side by side by side. 5K is crisp. others are no. OS X fault. These are Dell 2721QS. Its technically 1440 x 8000.

The ASD is $1299 on sale, often. Its 27" competitors are: Asus, $799, LG 5K, $999 -- Saumsung S9, $999, new benq 5K, $1199 -- besides the Asus which has so-so reviews, they rest are close in cost.. and cheaply made. Only the Benq comes close to build quality... with the price to match. No. No gaming. If I was s serious gamer.. buy a PC. simple.

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Regarding the upgrade from M1 Max to M4 Max, I'm delaying it until end of the year waiting to see long term reviews. If performance increase is less than 50%
There's already lots and lots of comparisons online, and performance (by many metrics) are available. There's nothing over the next 9 months that will reveal something startling about the M4 Max than the previous 4 months of the M4 Max (in the MBP) to surprise us.
 
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It's not an obsession, and it's not "prioritizing" - it's just basic user experience and functionality. I need my desktop computer to have every port that I need (now or in the future). TB5, SD, HDMI, USB-A, headphone, etc - these ensure that when i need to plug something in, there's a port for it. I don't have to order a dongle from Amazon and wait a day, I just plug in and go. So, yeah, I want "single use" ports if it means my premium desktop computer is always ready for whatever I need to connect. Why wouldn't you want a plethora of ports? If you don't use them, so what?
If you don’t use them then it’s a complete waste of money.
 
27 iMac Pro with M4 Max would be so cool

I'd love it, but not until they've fixed that issue that caused the M1 iMacs to develop black lines on the screen. (I've heard it's because they cheaped out on some part affected by heat. Hopefully, it's been addressed in the newest iMacs).
 
Love my Studio and Studio Display that I bought 2022 - it got later to EU.
See if I buy another ASD when/if I pick up 1 on sale. Not impossible.
I'm not that disappointed with the 27" of the ASD - it's perfect for the place where I have it.
Another ASD can fit nicely, a larger display would'nt look that good there.
 
I love my Studio Display because of its great (not the best) image quality, speaker sound quality, and gorgeous design. I use it daily with my M1 Max MacBook Pro.

However, I still would like to say that the specs are a bit disappointing even for 2022 since it lacks HDR 1000 (it only has HDR 600, which is basically nothing). It's also not a mini-LED screen and lacks ProMotion. I like its size, but otherwise, it's no better than the built-in display on my MacBook Pro. Compare to the LG UltraFine 5K (2016/2019), it was not a leap forward.

I look forward to the next-gen Studio Display. This time, I want some real updates. Even if it sticks with 60Hz, it should at least be a mini-LED or OLED showing real black. And, as a video editor, the HDR 1000 for video editing and playback is important.
 
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