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ah yes the classic "retina purest" argument, do you actually sit like a foot away from the monitor and try to count each individual pixels?

i and many others went from true retina resolutions, to 4k 32inch and unless you try to zoom in and count the pixels, you won't miss it.
Not so much a purist, as just genuinely asking if someone knows of a 32 inch 218 PPI monitor that doesn't break the bank, since that's what I'd prefer, but I'm not stuck on it since I haven't yet looked at a 32 inch 4K monitor in person, set to the reduced resolution I normally use for text editing, at a viewing distance of about 22 inches, which might be fine for me. You might be right that I'd be fine with 4K, since I've read many other people feel the same way, at least for some uses.

I'm hoping one or more of my local stores has at least a couple of the better models on the floor where I can see them for myself, and that they'll let me connect my M1 Max Macbook Pro to them and fiddle with the settings. If text is sharp, on a nice bright background (I keep my Macbook's brightness at maximum), and contrast ratio is high (and detail crushing in dimly lit scenes low) for sometimes watching videos on it, then the rest of the graphics specs will probably be fine for me too--I don't do any higher-end photo or video work in which high resolution, color purity, etc. are important.

But when I do count pixels, I sit closer than a foot from the display, more like six inches.
 
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Not so much a purist, as just genuinely asking if someone knows of a 32 inch 218 PPI monitor that doesn't break the bank, since that's what I'd prefer, but I'm not stuck on it since I haven't yet looked at a 32 inch 4K monitor in person, set to the reduced resolution I normally use for text editing, at a viewing distance of about 22 inches, which might be fine for me. You might be right that I'd be fine with 4K, since I've read many other people feel the same way, at least for some uses.

I'm hoping one or more of my local stores has at least a couple of the better models on the floor where I can see them for myself, and that they'll let me connect my M1 Max Macbook Pro to them and fiddle with the settings. If text is sharp, on a nice bright background (I keep my Macbook's brightness at maximum), and contrast ratio is high (and detail crushing in dimly lit scenes low) for sometimes watching videos on it, then the rest of the graphics specs will probably be fine for me too--I don't do any higher-end photo or video work in which high resolution, color purity, etc. are important.

But when I do count pixels, I sit closer than a foot from the display, more like six inches.
If they don't let you fiddle on the floor, you can always buy it, hook it up at home and try it out. Did that with my 34" widescreen for my 2012 MBP and did not have to return it.

BenQ PD3200U is 31.5" 4K has been great for my coding/CAD/text/documents/computer sim/2D graphics on my mac mini and studio. The current version is the 3205 at BestBuy for like 600 USD. That could be an option for you. I don't watch movies on mine, though. But that is a 138 PPI vs. the 218 PPI you are looking for.
 
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An absolutely incredible screen - only flaws are lack of any user friendly means to change the stand or switch inputs with a pc (outside of unplug cables) but hey that's Apple for you. The sound is incredible for a screen.
 
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I hope Apple don't shrink the Studio 🙏 because they did with the Mini. and I love the SD reader I use it most of the time. very convenient 👍
Don’t think they will, I read somewhere that the TDP of the M3 Ultra is significantly more than M2 Ultra. They might have to go bigger at some point, if anything, to get the thermal capacity necessary if this trend keeps up. The copper heat sink in the current studio is already pretty massive, it takes up like 1/3 of the internal volume of the Studio
 
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I’m not talking about third-party discounts. The price in the Apple Store is still list price. And they’d have to lower that list price if they kept the old model around alongside the new one.
Why would they keep the old model alongside the new one in their Apple Stores? That doesn’t make sense.
 
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Who says they’re not? Ya prob won’t see a new one til the m5
In which case there is no point buying the new Mac Studio. I’ve cancelled my order until they get their act together and release updated versions of both products together.
 
You dont know what you are missing until it miss it. =) As 30 year print designer, there IS a difference. Been running 27" 5K since 2015. Now running 2 27" Dell 4K + 2020 27" iMac... its clear when side by side by side. 5K is crisp. others are no. OS X fault. These are Dell 2721QS. Its technically 1440 x 8000.

The ASD is $1299 on sale, often. Its 27" competitors are: Asus, $799, LG 5K, $999 -- Saumsung S9, $999, new benq 5K, $1199 -- besides the Asus which has so-so reviews, they rest are close in cost.. and cheaply made. Only the Benq comes close to build quality... with the price to match. No. No gaming. If I was s serious gamer.. buy a PC. simple.

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for print work isn't contrast more important than pixel resolution?
 
ah yes the classic "retina purest" argument, do you actually sit like a foot away from the monitor and try to count each individual pixels?

i and many others went from true retina resolutions, to 4k 32inch and unless you try to zoom in and count the pixels, you won't miss it.
As others mentioned we can see the difference at a normal working distance. I have an LG4k right next to my ASD and I can clearly see the difference. I don't game and mainly work in text all day. The 5k crispness is something I don't want to give up, and until recently the ASD had almost no competition.
 
Can someone highlight how the screen sleep functionality works?
As there is no power button, do assume I manually place the mac into sleep when leaving - but is it reliable?
I've read a few comments where the mac wakes up the display in the middle of the night for no apparent reason etc?

Although it hasn't been updated - Im still interested. I don't game etc on the screen so a higher refresh rate wouldn't do anything for me. I will only be using it for editing video via FCP most of the time, and everyday email/surfing etc.
I know there are other options, but I know I will always regret it if I don't get what I really want! lol
 
in 35 years of mac use, as a graphic designer, ive used a SD card slot maybe 10 times. And a fast card reader is cheap.

But dual screens... since my 8100... now 3 screens since my 2015 iMac. Something the mini couldnt do until the PRO, so a studio was it. =)

The missing sd card slot was so necessary to creatives and generated so much insults from reviewers that.. They put it back in.

Mag safe? That too!! 😁😁😁👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

So your 10 times usage is someone else's 1000+ times. Some of us design art directors are photographers as well! Imagine that? Not hard to fathom. 👍🏾

Also had a dual screen setup since college... until 27inch 2023 imac nuked that need. Still works great too. And the SD CARD SLOT 😁👍🏾

Cheers all
 
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As others mentioned we can see the difference at a normal working distance. I have an LG4k right next to my ASD and I can clearly see the difference. I don't game and mainly work in text all day. The 5k crispness is something I don't want to give up, and until recently the ASD had almost no competition.
i work in text all day too, mainly word docs and pdf, the 5k crispness is overblown, i rather have the bigger 32inch real estates where i can see more document real estates than some margins of sharper text.
 
Not so much a purist, as just genuinely asking if someone knows of a 32 inch 218 PPI monitor that doesn't break the bank
Well, there is competition, which is good. Dell’s older UltraSharp 6K U3224KB starts at $2500. LG’s upcoming Thunderbolt 5 competitor for that, the UltraFine 6K 32U990A is likely to be in the same range.

The ASUS ProArt 6K PA32QCV is thought to be somewhat less, like $1800 or so.
 
The missing sd card slot was so necessary to creatives and generated so much insults from reviewers that.. They put it back in.

Mag safe? That too!! 😁😁😁👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

So your 10 times usage is someone else's 1000+ times. Some of us design art directors are photographers as well! Imagine that? Not hard to fathom. 👍🏾

Also had a dual screen setup since college... until 27inch 2023 imac nuked that need. Still works great too. And the SD CARD SLOT 😁👍🏾

Cheers all
and thats my point. There isnt a "rule" on what works for some vs others. Im not sure what mac you are referring to, but they have never "put back in" the SD slot on the mini. Was taken out on the M1... and hasnt come back. Never will. phones have nearly decimated the low end camera industry, and the need for SD slot.

Although 100% agree they effeed up with magsafe. Kinda killed me when they dropped it on my kids M1 MBAs... thankfully no disasters
 
i work in text all day too, mainly word docs and pdf, the 5k crispness is overblown, i rather have the bigger 32inch real estates where i can see more document real estates than some margins of sharper text.
27" 4K @ 3840 x 2160 shows the same thing as a 32" 4K @ 3840 x 2160, but the pixels are larger.
 
HDR photography workloads have gotten so much better since the release of the studio display. I now find myself editing more on my laptop screen than my studio display. If they just upped the refresh rate and added mini-LED backlight for true HDR performance...and kept everything else the same...it would be an instant buy for me!
 
and yet OLED is much more color accurate than ASD's led...
its actually not. Colors might be more "vivid", and more accurate than TN displays... but ASDs color is nearly 100% accurate in sRGB. If someone made an OLED 5K, it would be worth a look. But Id worry about burn in for my workflow. Mini LED is where I want to be. OLED blacks arent great, they give off a blue/purple cast. Reviews for ASDs always get knocks for price, ergonomics, and gaming... which are, yea, Apple and Apple and its not for gaming. I certainly don't understand the cost (although I posted earlier about the cost vs other 5K screens).

FWIW, Ive spent $1799 on a screen before (that's 2002 dollars), 24" Sony GDM-FW900. 1600 x 1200 widescreen @ 76 hrz. Powered by a G4 933, with a 64 MB (yes, MB) Geforce card with a second 17" screen on a second Proformance III 8 MB video card. not long after we bought our first flat screens, 20" Dell 2001FPs .. think they were $800?

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that depends on where you are viewing OLED. In any semi bright light, it casts color. There are multiple types of OLED, one is better in bright light... cant remember the designation.

Ive done more research on monitors (and macs) than normal people should, since early CRT days where the best option was Apples 13" RGB display... and BW monitors were serious considerations, Radius and NEC were kings. I never bought cheap displays for my studio. Even my home Cube a viewsonic 21" Trinitron People forget that CRTs had zero adjustability too. We did color match proofs in studio... I setup a 9600/350 as a print server, with Epson 3000 and Epson 5500 PRO inkjets -- ink was $$$$. damn 1000BT switch was $500.


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