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By George, you're right!

I haven't had that e-mail, for the simple reason that I already ponied up. Very interesting. Only trouble is that everyone will moan all the louder now they can see it having an effect. I'm going to get some ear-plugs! :)
 
I doubt it.
The .Mac site still says that $50 is only for the first year.
I think that Apple would have thought out their pricing carefully, and it is not going to change.
 
It would be an unusually careless piece of wording then. Look how hard - and unsuccessfully - everyone was trying to find a quote which said iTools was "free for life". "$49.50 a year" is pretty plain wording, and if it's known to be double in the second year, this is plain old misleading advertising, which in this country at least is illegal. This is either a serious and uncharacteristic mistake, or it's the beginning of a change. The family pack deal still hasn't been fully absorbed on the Apple site even now: it's evidently a slow process over there.
 
I know, it is a bad choice of words to say "$49.50 a year", they are just asking for more trouble with that line. But if they were going to halve the price I think they would announce it and change their website.

Someone mentioned earlier about .Mac being available in a box from Apple Stores, does that mean people will be able to buy it with an edu discount??
 
Ugh

Personally, I dont mind changing email addresses, although my other one has a huge tag. What I do care about is the fact that I still use my mac.com email, and they throw in ads. Here, Apple is trying to stop spam with the new Mail in Jaguar, yet they send spam themselves. Now THAT'S low. :rolleyes:
 
Just looked at my idisk and to my surprise I now have a Gig of space. I didn't pay for the extra space but I did pay for .Mac. What's happening here???

i've checked it again back to 95MB. Ohh.. was getting excited
 
Originally posted by saint
I know, it is a bad choice of words to say "$49.50 a year", they are just asking for more trouble with that line. But if they were going to halve the price I think they would announce it and change their website.

Someone mentioned earlier about .Mac being available in a box from Apple Stores, does that mean people will be able to buy it with an edu discount??
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It's still the same price on the edu store
 
Re: Ugh

Originally posted by AssassinOfGates
Personally, I dont mind changing email addresses, although my other one has a huge tag. What I do care about is the fact that I still use my mac.com email, and they throw in ads. Here, Apple is trying to stop spam with the new Mail in Jaguar, yet they send spam themselves. Now THAT'S low. :rolleyes:
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You don't have to receive the "spam" from Apple. At some point in time you must have checked the little box to receive e-news or other communications from apple. I've had my mac.com email pretty much since the begining and I never receive spam from apple.
 
Originally posted by skunk
It would be an unusually careless piece of wording then. Look how hard - and unsuccessfully - everyone was trying to find a quote which said iTools was "free for life". "$49.50 a year" is pretty plain wording, and if it's known to be double in the second year, this is plain old misleading advertising, which in this country at least is illegal. This is either a serious and uncharacteristic mistake, or it's the beginning of a change. The family pack deal still hasn't been fully absorbed on the Apple site even now: it's evidently a slow process over there.
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The $99.95 price is very known and clear as is the $49.95 price for existing itools subcribers. This email shouldn't be going out to everyone, just the previous itools subscribers, so it really isn't misguided advertising. While I admit that should've put the disclaimer on just to cover all of the bases, unless you haven't touched your mac in years, you know your second year is going to cost you $99.95.
 
Originally posted by drastik
.mac is actually a very good value, anyway you look at it. For those of you who just want free email, go to yahoo and look at the ads all day, that's how they get paid. .mac doesn't have ads. For those who want srongly integrated web services, use .mac, its a steal.

For those who haven't noticed, web space is actually increasing in price.

My host charges $9.99 a month (more than .mac) I get a few emails and 500 mgs of space. Now that's more than .mac gives, but it costs more too. I don't get tight integration and automatic uploads from the desktop. I use fetch, which is funtional, but nothing like .mac's integration. You can buy doman names and forward them to .mac accounts.

Now, .mac is 99$ a yar for full price. I see hosting ads now that offer 50 megs of space, restricted bandwidth, and no doman registration for $8.95 a month ($107.40 a year) plus a $40 set up fee (one time.)

Face it, .mac is a good deal for the services you get. There is no more free email anywhere. even free services make you see ads which are apying for it.
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Did you say 500 megs? That's like 20 times as much space! Surely you meant 50megs. A website with 500megs is just insane unless it's a streaming server or something.

Unless a site has quicktime, it will easily fall under 20megs.

Anyway, I recommend arishost.com to everyone. Not huge space, not huge bandwidth, but more than 90% of the people need. They have webmail, ftp, mysql (extra) php4, etc. They give you free hosting when you register your domain through them, or transfer your domian. No ads. True web hosting. $30 a YEAR. Not month. $30 a year. Your email will be an ad for yourself... bob@bobsmith.com or whatever your domain is. They have webmail. Not as pretty as apple's, but hey... it's webmail.

Getting people to quit .mac is starting to feel like trying to get my parents to quit AOL.

And as far as uploading your site goes... why aren't you using the integrated site management in your web design software? If you're not using any, buy that instead of .mac
 
Originally posted by macsurfer


Is Hotmail IMAP? NO. Does Hotmail synchronize between your mail app on your computer and the web interface? NO. Do you get inundated with SPAM on Hotmail? YES. Do banner ads run in your Hotmail account?. YES. Do banner ads run in your .mac email account web interface? NO.

Pray tell, how does Hotmail even BEGIN to compare with the outstanding product that is .mac email? It's not even CLOSE.
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Uhhhh.... unless hotmail has changed recently, I use it in IMAP mode for free on Outlook express. You can have 3 types of accounts... POP, IMAP, or Hotmail.

Ditto with macmail. POP, IMAP, or .MAC

I've never looked at my hotmail on the hotmail site. But all the mail exists on both computers until I delete it. It's not pop. It syncs. However, it's been months since I looked at it. So they may have done away with it for all I know.
 
Happy

Well I am happy about this. I was going to wait until closer to the expiry date of the offer before signing up to get the most benefit.

I think it's good of Apple to do this small thing. Anyone who signed up right away must be feeling somewhat better now.

Since this change I signed up last night. No reason to wait anymore.

I do sympathise with those that only used iTools for the email. You really do need broadband access for iDisk to be truely useful. Having said that I believe the package is a good deal. They should just offer a cheaper email only account instead of all or nothing.

Apple has shown that they listen to us users in the past. Anyone remember the user response to the AppleShareIP upgrade costs a few years back? That got changed.

I'm confident Apple will fix this problem too.
 
Re: Happy

Originally posted by senjaz
I do sympathise with those that only used iTools for the email. You really do need broadband access for iDisk to be truely useful. Having said that I believe the package is a good deal. They should just offer a cheaper email only account instead of all or nothing.

Apple has shown that they listen to us users in the past. Anyone remember the user response to the AppleShareIP upgrade costs a few years back? That got changed.

I'm confident Apple will fix this problem too.
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Thanks for being sympathetic. But I doubt Apple will offer an email only account at a reduced rate in the future. If Apple was going to do that, they would/should have done that by now. Many users have already switched to other email accounts (either hotmail or the ones given by their current provider), or else they will do so soon. I plan to make the full switch in mid-September to my provider's email by notifying contacts, forwarding my mac.com email to my new one, and putting an automatic reply in my mac.com email of my new address. If in October or November Apple now offers an "email only" account for, say, $20/year, it will be too late as users will already have switched emails and notified all their contacts of the change. Personally, once I make the switch to my provider I'll stay there, as I'm not going to switch back one month later after I've gone through the hassle of notifying dozens of contacts and online retailers (I'm not looking forward to that).

Mac.com has served me well the past couple years as I've switched providers 3 times, so that was two times I didn't have to notify friends/online retailers of a new email address. I guess I can be thankful for Apple and iTools for that. But I plan to keep my current Roadrunner account for a long, long time, so switching my email to them is just fine. I'll now be advertising for roadrunner broadband service when I send out emails instead of Apple. I understand Apple needs to charge for .Mac, and people just need to decide if it is worth it to them. Hopefully after September Apple will NOT put out separate pricing for parts of its services like "email only" or "iPhoto only" as then we'll just hear more bitching from Mac users saying "Aww, man, here I paid $50 for email when I could have paid $20" and all kinds of other crap like that. I think moving the .mac expiration date to Sept 30, 2003 is a good move, and now Apple should just stick with what they've got and not make any more changes. At least this way come October hopefully this .mac griping and complaining can be put to rest.
 
bite off nose spite face

In addition to all the ill will Apple has generated by the transformation of the free iTools into the fee-based .mac, Apple is creating a situation where they stand to lose future revenue from potential customers.

I hardly ever used iTools. Once in a while I'd download software for OS X that Apple had shoved into my iDisk, and most of the time I'd have my @mac.com e-mail forwarded to one of my ISP accounts. It cost Apple virtually NOTHING for my iTools account.

BUT, ...that server space that Apple made available tempted me several times, as there are a couple of bound photo books I have been meaning to create with iPhoto and order. Without the access to the Apple servers, that I would normally only use to place an order for hardcopy photo products, ...they've lost me as a potential customer.



Gesturing in the general direction of Cupertino,
the Midnight Rambler
 
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