Same situation here. But, after reading this, it looks like I will have to remove all of the video off my network drive. Drat, I have about 300 of them. I guess I should have read the law before I started.
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Same situation here. But, after reading this, it looks like I will have to remove all of the video off my network drive. Drat, I have about 300 of them. I guess I should have read the law before I started.
Yes, I should have said "most every commercial DVD." Certainly it's legal to make copies of your original works and non-copyrighted material. Sorry about that.
Funny how you can make copies of LPs, cassettes and CDs that you own under fair use, but not DVDs. You can use your Tivo to record anything on your sat or cable, including premium movie channels, so you can watch them when you want and as often as you want, but somehow DVDs are different. Somehow renting a DVD, ripping it and making a copy for later viewing (time shifting, ala Tivo) is illegal. The law makes absolutely no sense at all; it's completely inconsistent. Until the law is consistent, and fair, "pirating" will continue unabated.
It is rediculas. i have a recordable HDD attached to my tv, which enables me to be able to record films that are shown on tv, and then watch them again later. but if i was to do this with a dvd OH NO! ITS ILLEGAL!
All these laws are passed because US government is funded/controlled by industry, if you haven't clicked to that one yet, then get out of bed, draw the curtains and look at the world! So, all these types of law are **** and there to be obeyed or broken as you wish, personally I don't give a damn for bureaucratic interference in my life, particularly when those same bureaucrats support a system that is happy to oversee the killing of innocent people throughout the world. This is not a political point, just an observation of the stupidity of mankind to value the copying of a DVD as relevant as the murder of a child. I'm pissed at that fool Jobs who charges megabucks for his laptops and then prohibits me from watching DVDs from different regions as I travel to different countries, that is an inconvenience and only encourages the ripping, copying and viewing of pirated DVDS ... in fact I'd much rather buy and watch high quality originals, than problematic copies, but they are usually region set, whereas the illegal ones aren't ... you know it makes sense, at least it does if you have so much money already stuffed into your trouser pockets and you don't like the idea of anyone else having as much. These guys producing the original material and marketing it, are to all intents and purposes a cosy club, serving their own interests, while pretending its a free market. 
Yeah, it's annoying how busybodies watch for threads on DVD ripping and backing up, and then swoop in to tell you how you're being naughty or a criminal or something not adding anything useful to the topic at hand, of course. I imagine the same sorts of people sit by their windows watching for speeders and cars stereos that are turned up too loud so they can call the cops or write irate letters to the editor.
Sigh. No. It's a matter of people contributing information to the topic at hand, especially when it is relevant to forum rules and legislation that ought to be of interest to those participating in the thread. When someone posts a question or comment here, s/he knows full well that others will answer or comment. That's the whole point, after all. Not everyone will like or agree with everything posted. Wizwaz3 doesn't like some of the answers and comments. Well, that's life. When we ask questions, we sometimes get answers we don't like.
Name-calling ("busybodies"), on the other hand, is an example of how NOT to contribute to a topic.
The U.S. has a concept called "fair use", which, among other things, says that if you buy a product, you have the right to use it however you want. For example, it is 100% legal to rip a CD to your iPod, for listening to it in a different way. It is legal to copy a VHS videocassette on to your computer. As far as copyright law is concerned, it is legal to rip a DVD on to your computer to watch on there.
The DMCA makes it a crime to circumvent protective technologies. But... "17 U.S.C. 1201(a)(1) requires that the Librarian of Congress issue exemptions from the prohibition against circumvention of access-control technology. Exemptions are granted when it is shown that access-control technology has had a substantial adverse effect on the ability of people to make noninfringing uses of copyrighted works." (to quote Wikipedia.)
The way I see it, fair use is a "noninfringing use of copyrighted works". Even though no exemption has been issued for DVD copy protection, it's close enough that I'm willing to risk it.
Yeah, it would be weird if someone simply backing up his or her own, purchased media would really ever have any legal problems, regardless of the letter of the law. I think the creators, producers etc should be paid for their work, just as anyone else is paid for work done, so I buy music and movies that I want to have. But it's puzzling that backing up my purchased copies can be considered illegal.
And it bugs me, too, that I can't watch legally purchased DVDs from several countries, on my laptop.
It just doesn't make sense, people travel all the time, and the important thing is that the copies we have are legal.The thread topic was "Does anybody know how I can download this new version of MTR?" I didn't see anything in there about asking for legal advice.
I call a spade a spade. I hoped to contribute by helpfully suggesting people stop repeating the same criminal accusations in every thread about using Mac-the-ripper or Handbrake. Clearly this thread is beyond hope, however.
Unless they are using a completely different backend they are not legally allowed to restrict what you can do with a copy of the program. They are constrained by the GPL licensing of libdvdcss. They can legally charge for access to the Beta, but people are free to do with the copies as they wish.
Yes, it is still using GPL'd libdvdcss and libdvdread... here is the .torrent
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/36...D_Ripper_for_MacOS_X_3.14.3644636.TPB.torrent
Under the GPL I don't see why I can't post this here since it is 100% legal to copy this application.
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/36...D_Ripper_for_MacOS_X_3.14.3644636.TPB.torrent
Under the GPL I don't see why I can't post this here since it is 100% legal to copy this application.
The biggest change is that they now offer G3, PPC, and Intel builds whereas the 2.66 version does not have Intel. I haven't played with it enough to spot any other big changes.
Because only those components are GPLed, and MTR requires you to download them separately. They are basically just a closed-source front-end for the open-source utilities. Which is a perfectly legitimate activity. The GPL doesn't forbid you from making closed source 'wrappers', it just requires that if you include GPL code in YOUR code, then your code is GPL, too. There are quite a few closed-source OS X 'wrappers' for GPL programs, such as ffmpegX, which is a closed source OS X wrapper for the GPLed ffmpeg utility. (Again, to properly comply with the GPL, they make you download ffmpeg separately.)
the biggest changes are in the protection removal!
I donated and downloaded. The biggest differences are in the protection removal and on discs with bad sectors inserted on purpose. Can't remember the studios that do this.
If trying to backup certain (newer) discs, the older versions will fail repeatedly.
Also, note that although it is still version 3.0, there are different builds such as 3.0e and 3.0r (I believe r is the newest, but am not @ home to confirm.)
Whichever one is the newest, it is signifigantly more stable than the previous 3.0 build I had dl off of a torrent.
--HG
I donated and downloaded. The biggest differences are in the protection removal and on discs with bad sectors inserted on purpose. Can't remember the studios that do this.
If trying to backup certain (newer) discs, the older versions will fail repeatedly.
Also, note that although it is still version 3.0, there are different builds such as 3.0e and 3.0r (I believe r is the newest, but am not @ home to confirm.)
Whichever one is the newest, it is signifigantly more stable than the previous 3.0 build I had dl off of a torrent.
--HG
NO... it's statically linked to the executable making it a GPL application itself.
The legal issues evolved along the way, and are to be expected in threads of that kind.
You don't seriously expect us to believe that this was meant to be "helpfully suggesting", do you?
My point was that the wording you chose was not particularly constructive. Name-calling and condescending, generalized characterizations of the people who don't agree with you, don't get your point across well. And you did have a point, one that's shared by many, and you have as much right to post it as anyone else. I'm just pointing out that there is more than one way to call a spade a spade, and some will get you taken seriously better than others.
I Don´t Know How To Donate
Can Anyone please help!, i have already read the instructions for donating using paypal and i wrote to Geezerbuttz and he hasn´t answer me yet.
Can I Use a credit card to donate?, how exactly is the process of donation?
Would anyone explain to me?, Thanks a lot
Can Anyone please help!, i have already read the instructions for donating using paypal and i wrote to Geezerbuttz and he hasn´t answer me yet.
Can I Use a credit card to donate?, how exactly is the process of donation?
Would anyone explain to me?, Thanks a lot
Mtr3
Boy did this thread go from a simple where is MTR3 to basically calling everyone a BLOODY PIRATE
I guess you guys don't have kid's or grandchildren.
I purchase DVD's for the Grandchildren to watch,
I MTR (them and burn copies so as not to have to buy a 2nd or third copy.
Even Itunes lets my put my music on 5 machines...
if you have MTR on the lower left of the "about" is the donation sign.
you'll find MTR 3.0.14
Boy did this thread go from a simple where is MTR3 to basically calling everyone a BLOODY PIRATE
I guess you guys don't have kid's or grandchildren.
I purchase DVD's for the Grandchildren to watch,
I MTR (them and burn copies so as not to have to buy a 2nd or third copy.
Even Itunes lets my put my music on 5 machines...
if you have MTR on the lower left of the "about" is the donation sign.
you'll find MTR 3.0.14