ascender
macrumors 603
I think that’s going to be one of the most common questions getting asked on here over the next few weeks & months!
MacBook Air and MacBook Pro M1 Chips Have Same 8-Core CPUs, No Upgrades Available
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I think that’s going to be one of the most common questions getting asked on here over the next few weeks & months!
harmoniumfarfisa
macrumors regular
Actually they both start at the 8GB RAM, 256 SSD as a base.
If you're doing higher end work, you're using an external drive.... The RAM was never an issue I noticed until the last couple versions of OSX, and recent versions of creative apps. But they're maxing RAM capabilities at 32GB, and claiming the chip will give better RAM performance anyway. If the benchmarks are good, then it's going to talk us out of needing the upgraded RAM.
harmoniumfarfisa
macrumors regular
Frankly it must be fine for most needs, or they're crippling the MacBook Pro.
Every example I can think of where you'd normally need the MacBook Pro, they claimed the M1 can handle it as a stock spec.
Pretty much why Apple won’t let us compare MBA and MBP models with M1 chip on their compare models page.
TechRemarker
macrumors 6502a
As a MBP 16" user, planning on getting the next Apple Silicon iMac when it comes out presumably next year and looking to downgrade the 16" to 13" so was thrilled to see the announcement today even though disappointed no other hardware changes such as no improved web cam, no face id, no improvements to touchbar concept, no improvements to max ram available, but while other that was a bummer, the deal breaker was certainly the 50% downgrade in storage. The Intel MBP 13" supports up to 4TB, where is the Apple one oddly only allows up to 2TB which alas would be far too low. Once I have an iMac might be able to get by with the low storage, but certainly not from now until next year. Also the max ram is only 16GB vs 32GB on the old model. Maybe the new computer is so fast it's equally or better to having non apple doubled ram, but storage is certainly the deal breaker on an already frustrating announcement. Though in regards to battery life and silcon performance that as expected looked great.
ascender
macrumors 603
I‘ve already had two questions from friends & family about which one to buy and what the differences are and why are they priced like they are and why are they so similar. Etc etc.
Bentunnicliffe
macrumors newbie
Your image is a bit misleading and unfair as they are both the pro but you are making out it’s the air & the pro
harmoniumfarfisa
macrumors regular
The case and the fan are the conclusion a lot of us are coming to. I might pay extra for the slightly thicker form, but how silly is that?
falainber
macrumors 68040
Remember all "those guys" who were constantly asking why Intel CPU did not have this and that (USB3 or TB or whatever). Now it's Apple's turn to answer these questions. Why is there no 32GB support? If anything, one may expect that now Mac updates will be even fewer.
Guess will have to see. How much difference between display panels or front camera again. Touch Bar. Not much else?
ascender
macrumors 603
I guess we don‘t know what the answer is - is it a technical limitation or a sales/product lineup decision?
I expect one of the Apple podcasts will get the answer.
ascender
macrumors 603
I prefer the more square shape actually... Also my OCD makes me worry I’m going to damage the Air its so damn thin at its thinnest point, especially when I’m putting it in to my bag.
What else? TouchBar... Slightly brighter screen... should be able to work at sustained loads without throttling (but with fan)... slightly better battery life.
Some people will always prefer a Pro or an Air, so there’s that too.
NT1440
macrumors P6
Higher thermal envelope. Same chip, different thermal constraints due to physics.
Need to pay $200 to get the 8th core not disabled.
honestly, snark snark, you could do a little checking. a cursory review yields a few gems. 1) brighter screen 500 nits vs 400 nits, 2) 8 GPU cores vs 7 GPU cores, 3) Touch Bar vs no Touch Bar, 4) Touch ID vs no Touch ID, 5) better speakers, 6) studio quality mics, 7) bigger battery - longer life, 8) here you are right, better thermals
So can you put the Macbook Air on icecubes and get the same speed as the Pro?
ericwn
macrumors G5
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THIS IS A JOKE!!
pure, undenaible JOKELOL
only two ports on pro?? So we just buy more eco-friendly adapters?? or is it just another "lower-end" Pro with touch bar so boomers can show off in starbucks..??
My Pro from 2017 came with the same amount of ports, to be expected by now I guess.
They did have the courage to state that the webcam quality is now gonna be much nicer due to the advanced video processing capabilities or something like that (nobody promised more resolution of course...).
MBA has Touch ID Still.
harmoniumfarfisa
macrumors regular
Yup, they'll be the factors.
Though I'm not sure if Touchbar is a plus or minus.
It will be interesting to see what the Air's thinnest point looks like. Some versions were a bit ...sharp. M1 seems like it was meant to reduce the size again.
ericwn
macrumors G5
It does however not shrink the files we work with in size, so let’s wait to see how real world performance will be.
harmoniumfarfisa
macrumors regular
Need to pay $200 to get the 8th core not disabled.
Wait is that real? That's absurd and a major difference, but seems impossible. It's built into the chip. That would be like finding out the m1 has standard 32GB RAM that only accessed 8GB.
ericwn
macrumors G5
Micro before mini? Very unlikely I think.