MacBook Air and Possibly 13-Inch MacBook Pro Without Touch Bar Said to Receive Processor Refresh in the Fall

OK. I will wait then. Hopefully base model comes with 16 GB Ram and 256 GB SSD. Current specs and prices are ridiculous.
I kind of agree, which is why I'm on the fence in the first place, the Airs with 16 GB RAM and 512 GB SSD are ridiculously priced...but I think the base price isn't that bad, it's the upgrades that hurts...
 
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If it doesn't suck I'll be ready to upgrade from my 2013 rMBP 13. I've been holding off since they haven't updated the non-touchbar 13 in ages.
 
I tried the touch bar, useless and gimmicky as nothing I have tried, Apple should just get rid of it already.

And as much as I loved my MacBook Air there are several better options on the market that are lighter, more powerful and with overall better specs for as much as $400 less.
 
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Touch Bar, the most useless and gimmicky tech

I regret wasting $3k on it back in 2016
Should have returned it and state Touch Bar as sole reason. If people buy it Apple thinks people like it and want it. The vocal minority they don't care. Doubt anyone from Apple even reads these forums to hear all the gripes.

I am content with my 2015 MBPr. I would have kept my 2012 but I stupidly sat on it and broke my trackpad. A colleague sold me his old 2015 and gladly took it off his hands. I got a slight upgrade and still have a physical escape key that wasn't full of butterflies....
 
Didn't know the double fan situation. But in that case it would just be a better Macbook Air? Or I guess does have even lower TDP Cpus..
Indeed, the 2018 MacBook Air has a 7W dual-core CPU. the upcoming model should have an 9W CPU, but still dual-core.
 
Drop the non TB MB Pro and upgrade the MB Air instead.

Also please make the touch bar much more user configerable and bring it to the iMac keyboard. I find myself reaching for it on my iMac, now that I'm used to it. Sadly too few applications make the most of it.
IMHO I have a subtle suspicion that that will be the case. It is very possible that these rumors have been misinterpreted and only reference the MBA. I would be surprised if Apple actually did majorly update the non-touch model. I feel as if Apple is phasing them out rather than bringing them back.

If for some reason they did bring them back, I am almost certain Apple would not include a processor with any more power than the current non-touchbar MBP. It is likely that they would even withhold some of the more powerful elements of the Touch Bar MBP to encourage users to spend more to get the Touch Bar edition.
 
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While I'd happily welcome it, I'd be shocked to see the 13" non-TouchBar MacBook Pro updated, let alone alongside a MacBook Air update.

If the MacBook Air is going to continue to use Intel Y-series chips (pending the switch to ARM, of course), then new Y-series chips need to come out. To my knowledge, Intel hasn't released any successor to the Amber Lake that the current 2018 Air has. Though, by fall, it would be time for another MacBook Air update, and by then there may be a successor to those chips. Or maybe Apple will do the smart thing and merge the non-touch-bar 13" MacBook Pro and the 13" MacBook Air into a single MacBook Air product that see the MacBook Air line return to the U-series processors.

Either way, we have three 13" Mac notebook products that needlessly overlap each other in terms of the types of people they're catered to. It's kind of a mess.
 
Either way, we have three 13" Mac notebook products that needlessly overlap each other in terms of the types of people they're catered to. It's kind of a mess.

I don’t understand why this is perceived to be an issue. It’s a benefit IMO, we have more choice. If you don’t want to make a choice that’s ok, but some folks do want to have options.
 
If the newly released MacBook Pro have the same power and touch ID, I will buy one without Touch Bar. Don’t think i will be using the Touch Bar.

I wonder how many people would opt for the touchbar if they had a choice of the same hardware for the same price otherwise? Probably not many.

It's such a failed design. They aren't implementing across the line of portables. They aren't introducing external keyboards with it for the desktop peripherals. It's not the worst idea in the world. But when I used it, my thought was that they easily could have kept the physical f keys, had the touchbar up top, and reduced the oversized touchpad by just a small amount.
 
I don’t understand why this is perceived to be an issue. It’s a benefit IMO, we have more choice. If you don’t want to make a choice that’s ok, but some folks do want to have options.

When presented with too many confusing choices, consumers will shy away and not pick any product at all.
 
Sure, but I hardly think that 3 is not too many confusing choices. I'm not a simpleton, I can compare specs.

3 isn’t that many, but much of the target audience will not “compare specs”.

It’s hard to tell for me, even, how a salesperson recommends one over the other.
 
3 isn’t that many, but much of the target audience will not “compare specs”.

It’s hard to tell for me, even, how a salesperson recommends one over the other.


I don't buy that, sorry. I'm the target audience, I compare specs. Each to their own, but I'd prefer to have some choice.
 
That's fine. But for many of us it is not useful, at least not better than the already existing, much more reachable keyboard shortcuts. Apple should just push out an app for the iPad emulating touchbar (or actually letting devs use it similar to the tb).
SideCar in macOS Catalina has that built-in
 
Is there a 10th gen processor suitable for use in the 13 TB MBP that would allow it to be updated even though it has been only 6 months since the last update?
 
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