I kind of agree, which is why I'm on the fence in the first place, the Airs with 16 GB RAM and 512 GB SSD are ridiculously priced...but I think the base price isn't that bad, it's the upgrades that hurts...OK. I will wait then. Hopefully base model comes with 16 GB Ram and 256 GB SSD. Current specs and prices are ridiculous.
If it isn't Ice Lake - that would be a slap in the face to all mac users.Hello Ice Lake.
Touch Bar is complete garbage. I welcome this model. Please don’t limit storage and ports again on this “cheaper” MBP.
The 12" was just a beta for the current 13" model.No love for the 12" MacBook?![]()
That!Maybe refresh all of the laptops to eliminate the touch bar? The gimmick trial is over, I'm tired of the phantom ESC taps.
Is Ice Lake the chip that Apple was waiting on all those years? I'm buying one if it is.Hello Ice Lake.
Should have returned it and state Touch Bar as sole reason. If people buy it Apple thinks people like it and want it. The vocal minority they don't care. Doubt anyone from Apple even reads these forums to hear all the gripes.Touch Bar, the most useless and gimmicky tech
I regret wasting $3k on it back in 2016
Well Intel hasn’t released any newer CPUs used in the nTB 13, what’s to update?If it doesn't suck I'll be ready to upgrade from my 2013 rMBP 13. I've been holding off since they haven't updated the non-touchbar 13 in ages.
Indeed, the 2018 MacBook Air has a 7W dual-core CPU. the upcoming model should have an 9W CPU, but still dual-core.Didn't know the double fan situation. But in that case it would just be a better Macbook Air? Or I guess does have even lower TDP Cpus..
IMHO I have a subtle suspicion that that will be the case. It is very possible that these rumors have been misinterpreted and only reference the MBA. I would be surprised if Apple actually did majorly update the non-touch model. I feel as if Apple is phasing them out rather than bringing them back.Drop the non TB MB Pro and upgrade the MB Air instead.
Also please make the touch bar much more user configerable and bring it to the iMac keyboard. I find myself reaching for it on my iMac, now that I'm used to it. Sadly too few applications make the most of it.
They may be waiting until ARM is ready. It would be nice to at least get the updated keyboard and Ice Lake Y processor in the meantime, though.No love for the 12" MacBook?![]()
Except the MacBook Air isn’t really much of an improvement over the 12” model.The 12" was just a beta for the current 13" model.
If it isn't Ice Lake - that would be a slap in the face to all mac users.
I also think this will put a damper on MBP sales this summer.
Either way, we have three 13" Mac notebook products that needlessly overlap each other in terms of the types of people they're catered to. It's kind of a mess.
If the newly released MacBook Pro have the same power and touch ID, I will buy one without Touch Bar. Don’t think i will be using the Touch Bar.
I don’t understand why this is perceived to be an issue. It’s a benefit IMO, we have more choice. If you don’t want to make a choice that’s ok, but some folks do want to have options.
When presented with too many confusing choices, consumers will shy away and not pick any product at all.
Sure, but I hardly think that 3 is not too many confusing choices. I'm not a simpleton, I can compare specs.
3 isn’t that many, but much of the target audience will not “compare specs”.
It’s hard to tell for me, even, how a salesperson recommends one over the other.
SideCar in macOS Catalina has that built-inThat's fine. But for many of us it is not useful, at least not better than the already existing, much more reachable keyboard shortcuts. Apple should just push out an app for the iPad emulating touchbar (or actually letting devs use it similar to the tb).