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Macbook air lg display horrible!!!!! Text reading is a headache!!!
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Interestingly, some other colors (through color channel swapping) appear even worse for me:
http://i.imgur.com/N6Eqn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oZy0u.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N6Eqn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oZy0u.jpg
I have a LG screen but I dont experience the flickering from the green header...
After clicking this link all I remember is waking up from a seizure.
All screens needs to be calibrated as was stated. Its the same with buying an HDTV. Once you do so your eyes gets used to it. It will be as night and day difference.
I had some eye strain when I first fired up the Air. After calibration, I am pleased with the colors and text read ability.
The stock configuration is bad out of the box.
After clicking this link all I remember is waking up from a seizure.
All screens needs to be calibrated as was stated. Its the same with buying an HDTV. Once you do so your eyes gets used to it. It will be as night and day difference.
I had some eye strain when I first fired up the Air. After calibration, I am pleased with the colors and text read ability.
The stock configuration is bad out of the box.
"These patterns are not comprehensive and should not be used blindy to rate one screen against another. The appearance of a visible cross-talk from any of these patterns does not indicate a "fault condition" with your display!"
My screen is calibrated but it's still there. I think the LG panel may just be bad with crosstalk.
What would help is if someone with a samsung display did these 4 cross talk tests and reported back.
WARNING: epileptics and sensitive folk may not want to do this
http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html
http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk4.html
My LG panel fails with #2 only. My other monitors pass all of the tests fine.
I think by "does not indicate a fault condition" that page means the panel may be designed with that limitation as an accepted engineering tradeoff. This would be fine if all MBA panels were like this. The problem comes when there appears (not confirmed) to be an alternative that is better. And that one can only get it through a lottery of parts.
Stopped by a local reseller with 2011 MBA 13" Samsung-panel to try out http://i.imgur.com/zPilY.jpg. Result? No flicker, no matter how I viewed it.
I can go back for testing crosstalk1...4.html later. My LG-panel fails #1, #2 (badly), #3. Passes #4.
I can go back for testing crosstalk1...4.html later. My LG-panel fails #1, #2 (badly), #3. Passes #4.
I knew that there was something weird with these screens. They were hurting my eyes. I ended up returning the MBA yesterday and have now completely given up on MBA. Will go for the 15" MBP which will really serve my needs. Video card, Memory compromise along with really bad display.
Maybe a future generation of Air.
My €2000 Cintiq 21UX also fails with 2 also. So it's not just cheap displays
The samsung panel in my MBA does not.
Edit..
My iPad 2 flickers when viewing test 2 in Horizontal orientation, but not vertical.
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Turn up your brightness. It fails the first 3 at full brightness - assuming you hope to see 0 flicker.
And probably it's better to link to the source for credit and wider understanding.
http://techmind.org/lcd/
"A fortunate side-effect of inversion (see above) is that, for most display material, what little cross-talk there is is largely cancelled out. For most practical purposes, the level of crosstalk in modern LCDs is negligible."
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Tested 2011 MBA 13" Samsung-panel (LTH133BT01A03) against crosstalk1..4 and all of them PASSED.
I'm torn. I have to ask for a refund and perhaps skip this generation of MBA's, as there's no friendly Apple Store (only retailers) to help out. I don't feel like playing parts lottery. Really, really disappointed.
I'm torn. I have to ask for a refund and perhaps skip this generation of MBA's, as there's no friendly Apple Store (only retailers) to help out. I don't feel like playing parts lottery. Really, really disappointed.
My 2000 Cintiq 21UX also fails with 2 also. So it's not just cheap displays
I have to say my opinion on this is: it's not a deal-breaker for me. It's a little annoying but given what I use my MBA for then the screen has been absolutely fine up to now.
Well, We will see what happens when my amazon order comes in.
It will be number 3 - I had samsung ssd in the first two.. samsung display then lg display...
I just know the penalty for being indecisive will be the unreturnable LG Toshiba combo.
However, it's also a bridge machine and under a grand.. so I'm fine with it.
It will be number 3 - I had samsung ssd in the first two.. samsung display then lg display...
I just know the penalty for being indecisive will be the unreturnable LG Toshiba combo.
However, it's also a bridge machine and under a grand.. so I'm fine with it.
I have owned both in the last week. I had a Samsung on the 1199.00 model with i5 and it was fine. And now I have the LG panel on the 1649.00 model i7 with 256 SSD (replaced the other to get bigger HD - turned out I needed more space)
Anyway, I have been trying to see if there are any problems or issues with this screen like so many people on this forum seem to think. My conclusions after 5 days... I think it is beautiful. Both in the light of day within my office and in the dark of night while sitting on my couch surfing or writing.
I did do a basic calibration - (alt-F2, click color, click Calibrate) to make it the way I like it but that is all. I normally run with brightness at half or less. Again, I have been very happy with this screen and really don't see what all the fuss is about. As an aside, I even got the Toshiba SSD in this i7 model instead of the Samsung that I had in the previous i5 model. Again, I notice no actual-use speed differences. (Yes, there are benchmark differences, but they mean very little in real-world use.)
So those are my observations. LG screen seems to be great. If you are having issues, try a calibration first, then take it to a Genius at the Apple store if you can. Otherwise, do a Time Machine back first, then return it for another one.
Anyway, I have been trying to see if there are any problems or issues with this screen like so many people on this forum seem to think. My conclusions after 5 days... I think it is beautiful. Both in the light of day within my office and in the dark of night while sitting on my couch surfing or writing.
I did do a basic calibration - (alt-F2, click color, click Calibrate) to make it the way I like it but that is all. I normally run with brightness at half or less. Again, I have been very happy with this screen and really don't see what all the fuss is about. As an aside, I even got the Toshiba SSD in this i7 model instead of the Samsung that I had in the previous i5 model. Again, I notice no actual-use speed differences. (Yes, there are benchmark differences, but they mean very little in real-world use.)
So those are my observations. LG screen seems to be great. If you are having issues, try a calibration first, then take it to a Genius at the Apple store if you can. Otherwise, do a Time Machine back first, then return it for another one.
Got the 13'' MBA 256G LG Monitor and failed on crosstalk2. Flickering is already noticeable starting even as low as 2 brightness level
This is a quote from that site "These patterns are not comprehensive and should not be used blindy to rate one screen against another. The appearance of a visible cross-talk from any of these patterns does not indicate a "fault condition" with your display!"