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roland.g

macrumors 604
Apr 11, 2005
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So much for poor sales of a niche product. I'm sure I heard at least one person say that would be the case. Gone within a year like the Hi-Fi. Somehow I doubt it.
 

chr1s60

macrumors 68020
Jul 24, 2007
2,061
1,857
California
Part of me wonders if this is Apple purposely keeping somewhat short supplies of the MBA in order to drive up the demand. After the reaction that quite a few people had after the introduction, it wouldn't be a bad plan. Quite a few people want things even more when they are hard to get a hold of, I imagine the same would go for computers. Regardless of what the reason is for the shortage, it is good to know that the MBA is selling.
 

HLdan

macrumors 603
Aug 22, 2007
6,383
0
Despite spending an inordinate amount of time in trendy coffee shops around the city, I've never seen an AIR outside of the Apple store or BestBuy. And I've never seen them out of stock at either place.

Maybe they are selling better somewhere else, but I don't get the impression that the AIR is flying off the shelves around here...pardon the pun.

Come on man, there are thousands of people in many cities and millions in many states (U.S. speaking only) and the AIR has been out what a little better than a month? How many people do you expect to run into with an AIR? Just because you don't see many people with an AIR out of all these millions of people doesn't mean it's selling well.
Do you happen to be EVERYWHERE in the world?:rolleyes:
 

aristobrat

macrumors G5
Oct 14, 2005
12,292
1,403
is that how you make conclusions?

data, like 300,000 iphone sold during 2 days weekend.

data, like 6 millions of people rode dart in 2006.

data, like setting bitrate to 450kbps will result in a 90 minutes movie of about 400MB in size

data, numbers?
clevin, if the topic is "MacBook Air Selling Out", wouldn't the data points be "can the Air be purchased immediately"?

Since it takes 5-7 days to ship from store.apple.com, it appears to be sold out online.
When I looked at the store availability tool this morning, the majority of stores in the ~10 random states I picked were sold out.
Many of the third-party resellers have sold out.

So again, what more data do you need to draw the conclusion that they're selling out?
 

minik

macrumors demi-god
Jun 25, 2007
2,117
1,560
somewhere
Didn't the original PowerBook G4 Titanium receive the same effect?

I had to wait a month to receive mine from Apple.

The MacBook Air is not my cup of tea as well.
 

jamesnajera

macrumors 6502
Oct 5, 2003
463
179
This is great, I like the idea of the MacBook Air, but cant justify owning one right now. I also want to see how this product will evolve and come down in price as some of the technologies inside it come down in price.
 

uNext

macrumors 6502
Aug 21, 2006
358
2
For the record i never claimed to be a business genius.
If i was then I would turn my current business from 200k to a million in no time but that’s another show.

My observation is based on personal situations I encountered while visiting the apple store.
When you have the end user put both spec sheet and price side by side it confuses them to a point where they
Start to question their purchase….RETAIL RULE IS TO LOCK THE SALE NOT MAKE THEM DOUBLE GUESS.

Comparisons can be made anytime but why give them a reason to question their decision while in your store?
2.4 looks more attractive then 1.6 @ 1299.99 opposed to 1799.99. It is instilled in our brain the higher the number the better it probably is.
End users have no knowledge about computers so they rely on observation and comparisons.

The general public have no idea of what the difference is between led and old technology. All they know is THE SCREEN WORKS and it looks the same.
I don’t think they care about how much power it sucks etc. Backlight keys? Another selling point that they may say is cool but numerous people use some sort of light
On when they use their computer because they are under the notion of strain eyes. I CAN GO ON it is not hard to put your geeky-ness aside and think as a regular person.

Simply put if you knew nothing about computers or had a general idea, Led, SSD etc means nothing to you they are simply the lcd screen and hard drive that’s been used as far as you can remember. What is more attractive to you? 1299-1499 or 1799.99-3k when you have both spec sheets side by side?
It is a niche product targeted at people who prefer thinness over power. But I know a good amount of people who wanted to buy the air but walked out with a macbook because they compared and for the buck THEY even GOT A PORTABLE DVD PLAYER in the process.
 

TheSpecialist

macrumors 6502
Jun 11, 2007
475
0
The Netherlands, Europe
Your nuts:eek:It's ok that you're a newbie here but hey do you really except that Apple is putting 4GB of RAM in a laptop, standard? You gotta be kidding me mate. 4GB is already an overkill in a Macbook Pro, don't even begin about the Air. And 80GB SSD's don't excist, they go by times two, so afther 64GB comes 128, 256, 512.. And forth. 100GB hard drives are technically not possible due to limited space. Think different:apple:before you post.:rolleyes:

And btw, welcome to the forums.

To the guy above me, it is simple. People who buy a MacBook are a different kind of market segment, these are not the ultraportable people. And care less about size, thinness and weight. The ultaportable segment of the market, is willing to pay a big buck for that speed in a beautifull, light and compact case. And that is the MacBook Air.

So it seems to me that if the reason Apple updated the MB's this past week with Penryn was due to Intel's production schedule, then the Air should be getting Penryn too (I am somewhat new to this, so if my logic is flawed, let me know). If they are going to update the processor of the Air to Penryn, I would also want 4 GB ram (soldered is fine by me) and a larger hard drive possible 100 GB or more, or at minimum a 80 GB SSD.

For me, I was about to purchase the "new" MBP this past week, but I am not in dire need of a new computer till July so I am willing to wait for the possibility of newer and better MBP or Air. For my needs, I don't really need all that much power, but some extra ram and hard drive space would definitely put the Air in a much better light for me, someone who doesn't need all the power of a MBP but would greatly benefit from the space-saving, Air.
 

shen

macrumors 6502
Jun 19, 2003
390
0
I doubt it's selling as well as the regular MacBooks and the 15" Pros, since the Air is aimed at a narrower audience.

according to the apple store it is the number one seller, even after the book/pro updates.

why do people have so much trouble accepting that maybe it really is the notebook that the majority want?
 

dante@sisna.com

macrumors 6502a
Apr 21, 2006
736
0
according to the apple store it is the number one seller, even after the book/pro updates.

why do people have so much trouble accepting that maybe it really is the notebook that the majority want?

Yes, people do want it.

Those of us here at MacRumors are not the core, mainstream or bulk of Apple's audience. We have become the Niche.
 

eastcoastsurfer

macrumors 6502a
Feb 15, 2007
600
27
Your nuts:eek:It's ok that you're a newbie here but hey do you really except that Apple is putting 4GB of RAM in a laptop, standard? You gotta be kidding me mate. 4GB is already an overkill in a Macbook Pro, don't even begin about the Air.

That maybe true for you, but anyone who deals with movie editing, photo editing, 3d modeling or VMs loves 4gb (or more RAM).

If all you truly need is an ultraportable machine to check email and surf the net then nearly anything Apple makes is overkill. Check out the EEEpc or one of the other $400-$500 portable internet devices.
 

cyberjunky

macrumors regular
Feb 6, 2008
131
0
according to the apple store it is the number one seller, even after the book/pro updates.

why do people have so much trouble accepting that maybe it really is the notebook that the majority want?

Perhaps because by the looks of the forums its the majority of which dislike it either in its entirety or in part?
 

clevin

macrumors G3
Aug 6, 2006
9,095
1
clevin, if the topic is "MacBook Air Selling Out", wouldn't the data points be "can the Air be purchased immediately"?

Since it takes 5-7 days to ship from store.apple.com, it appears to be sold out online.
When I looked at the store availability tool this morning, the majority of stores in the ~10 random states I picked were sold out.
Many of the third-party resellers have sold out.

So again, what more data do you need to draw the conclusion that they're selling out?

well, of course no data is needed for "selling out"

however, I think I was replying to #20, which seems to make an argument that exceeds the statement of "selling out". To which, I was just curious about numbers.
 

TheSpecialist

macrumors 6502
Jun 11, 2007
475
0
The Netherlands, Europe
Do you really think people are going to do heavy video editing on a MacBook Air? I doubt it, and even then 4GB would be idiocy. People would complain about the price EVEN MORE.

That maybe true for you, but anyone who deals with movie editing, photo editing, 3d modeling or VMs loves 4gb (or more RAM).

If all you truly need is an ultraportable machine to check email and surf the net then nearly anything Apple makes is overkill. Check out the EEEpc or one of the other $400-$500 portable internet devices.
 

aristobrat

macrumors G5
Oct 14, 2005
12,292
1,403
It is a niche product targeted at people who prefer thinness over power. But I know a good amount of people who wanted to buy the air but walked out with a macbook because they compared and for the buck THEY even GOT A PORTABLE DVD PLAYER in the process.
As long as they're walking out with something Apple, I really don't think Apple cares. Their COO recently said that if anything cut into their sales, they'd prefer it be one of their products vs a competitors. i.e. Losing a MBA sale to a MB is much better than losing it to a Thinkpad.

Like you said, it's a product targeted at people who value thinness more than power. Those people are going to compare specs between the MBA and the thin Thinkpads, not between the MBA and the thicker MB/MBP, so I don't think that the MBA needs to be kept far, far away from the other Apple notebooks.
 

emotion

macrumors 68040
Mar 29, 2004
3,186
3
Manchester, UK
It's amazing how many of the naysayers (the one's that really wanted one but couldn't afford it) said it wouldn't sell and Apple may discontinue it now the AIR is selling so well stock levels aren't kept up. ;)

I could afford two :). However the specs are for a vanity machine not something I'd want to do my music on.

That's ok for Apple though. There's a market for that kind of machine. I guess the recession hasn't kicked in yet.
 

aristobrat

macrumors G5
Oct 14, 2005
12,292
1,403
well, of course no data is needed for "selling out"

however, I think I was replying to #20, which seems to make an argument that exceeds the statement of "selling out". To which, I was just curious about numbers.
Ah, OK. I meant to reply to your post #5 where you were asking for data, but didn't hit the reply button until I saw you mention it a second time in post #20.
 

Beric

macrumors 68020
Jan 22, 2008
2,148
0
Bay Area
I couldn't care less about the RAM (2GB is plenty), the processor power, and can even make out with the wimpy graphics, and no optical drive, because you can hook the Apple one up if you need to. But what makes the MBA a no-sale for me is
1) The price
2) The small HD

If those problems were fixed, the MBA could be a primary laptop for me. And after giving that thought, I'm surprised it's that simple of a list. I could buy one in a few years with better technology for sure.
 

clevin

macrumors G3
Aug 6, 2006
9,095
1
Ah, OK. I meant to reply to your post #5 where you were asking for data, but didn't hit the reply button until I saw you mention it a second time in post #20.

lol, that one was purely curiosity. since I think sold out is a balance of how much you produce, and how much you sell. And I still have doubt that MBA is a popular product among all users like somebody argued. (I do not, and have not, have any doubt that rich fashionable users are always the target tho)

Last time Microsoft got ZUNE 2 shortage, many people argued that M$ intentionally made less available in the market just to drove up the demand, etc, etc.
 

EagerDragon

macrumors 68020
Jun 27, 2006
2,098
0
MA, USA
Sounds like Apple is not being run by a bunch of idiots as some of the posts here seem to alude.

I am glad all is going well and that the correct people are picking up an Air.

Go Apple.
 

jellomizer

macrumors 6502
Sep 12, 2006
486
4
Upstate NY
“The next cube”

I wouldn't buy one, but this news is funny as so many pundits and columnists and experts were quick to line up one by one to pan the device.

Very good news for Apple, the Mac is going so strongly at the moment. I hope Apple can keep up the momentum with more great software too. It's also great Apple can make money from their R&D projects. I have no doubts the Air gives us several ideas as to where the MacBook family is headed in the future.

I think the Cube was a good product it just wan't what people were looking for at the time. Between iMacs and PowerMacs there wasn't really that much room for difference and While the Cube was a cool design it wasn't significantly more powerful the the iMacs for people to upgrade or significantly more affordable then the PowerMacs to get them to but them. It was in a fuzzy Gray Area where there wasn't a market for.

The Macbook Air does have a good niche market it falls under the smallest Laptop available, So for people who do a lot of movement with their computer will find it useful. And most people don't use the Optical Drives all that much. So it is handy. Good for people who work in the field such as Insurance Adjusters, Home Inspectors, Plumbers, Electricians, Any title with the word Field in it, Sales people... It has its uses and a lot of people were looking for something without Windows on it that is small light and professional looking.
 

sterlingindigo

macrumors 6502
Dec 7, 2007
430
156
East Lansing
Give me that 9" MBA and I'll buy it on day one. I don't care if it doesn't have an optical drive or run every ap in the Adobe Master Collection Suite at the same time.
 
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