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The Super Drive is being pulled now???
What about those buying a Mac mini server?
Hmmmm.....

They can use a wide variety of devices from other vendors. For example, same $99 gets you:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other World Computing/MRF82SD22/

with the addition can use FW instead of USB. ( even older macs and other versions of Mac OS X will boot off of a FW optical drive. )

If updated MBA doesn't need some custom drive to boot off of then there is no need for Apple to make it. Apple doesn't sell printers anymore either. Why should they sell commodity external DVD drives ?
 
Wouldn't it be great if the latest MacBook Air was also the first LTE enabled laptop?

Good-bye to all wire attached services. LTE/wifi to printers, CD writers, drives, networks. Everything via IP VPN to your designated "hub". Perhaps your iMac or Mac-Mini or PC or even Apple TV Gen 1 . . . it's a computer, right?

Rocketman
 
Rumored 11.6''

It would be nice to see the rumored 11.6'' Macbook merged with the Macbook Air. The computer line is congested. Anyhow, this is a good sign that there is a possibility of a Macbook Air refresh.
 
At Last - A Travelling Manager's Dream.

4 years ago I sold software, which required only limited traveling and a machine that could handle a demo of multiple apps running on parallel virtual machines. I went for a powerful MacBook Pro 15". It's been great.

For the past 2 years, I've been in sales management - requiring lots more travel, but not much demo delivery. Now I need a machine that's small, light and reliable. Portability is key; I can now afford to sacrifice processing power.

I'd been looking to swap out my MacBook Pro for approximately 3 months, but was aware of the impending Air upgrade. This MacRumors news item may possibly result in one of the best Christmas presents ever - asides from the smiles on my children's faces; they get to open their present first.
 
Playing devil's advocate. What if Apple decides to let the Air just fade away? They've made it fairly clear that iOS is where most of their resources will be spent. The Air's replacement may be an iPad with a keyboard. For those who need more, the MacBook Pro 13" is relatively compact and portable.

I think it is more likely that what you would see is that the Air would be discontinued, the 11.6" screen would be for an updated low-end Macbook, and the Superdrive would be refreshed for the rollout of new 'airized' Macbook Pros sans the integrated Superdrive. I wouldn't have expected to see airized Macbook Pros this soon, but if they really are pulling the Superdrives for a refresh to make way for airized Macbook Pros, I don't see that they would refresh the MBA, now. And, I don't think they would refresh the Superdrives just for a new Air.

iOS is not a substitute for Mac OS, by the way. And, the current Macbook Pro is no substitute for the current MBA, but if they were to airize the Macbook Pro by removing the Superdrive, shedding some additional weight and size, that would be a different story.
 
What the Air needs, and is long overdue for, is a ULV i5.

There are ULV i5s. That isn't the issue. The issue is that making that graphics tradeoff appears to be something that Apple doesn't want to do.
There will be some next generation i5s when the Sandy Bridge versions drop next, but that won't be until next year.

There are also not nay more of the small package format C2Duos for Apple to go to with the MBA. The new MBP 13" picked up "hand me down" CPUs that had be used in higher end models. The MBA was currently shipping with the fastest implementations you can get in that package sizes. Intel is highly unlikely to introduce new C2D of any package size so they are stuck. The option is releasing a new model with no CPU improvements with mostly graphics and size improvements. There is a decent chance that is what is going to happen.




However, this arstechnica post from a few months ago makes a compelling argument that Apple has no decent upgrade options, due mainly to the Intel / NVIDIA battle.

There is no Nvidia battle . A variant of the 320m would not well with the Core iX models even if Intel had licensed the updated DMI bus. The DMI bus is far too slow for graphics traffic (given its other nominal workload traffic ) and the memory controller would still have been inside the Core iX chip. Integrated graphics isn't practical if the memory controller isn't on the same die as the graphics. The "bus licensing" thing is moot and a distraction.

Nvidia didn't want folks to notice they have no x86 answer for the upcoming CPU+GPU fusion. They don't. Claiming Intel is an evil meany just diverts folks attention from the facts. All the Intel and AMD graphics haters just need to get over it. Nvidia is pragmatically blocked from entering that market. The PCI-e is how connect faster graphics to Core iX solutions and that requires a discrete solution. The problem as outlined in the article is that blows up the space constraint. (extra chip. "redundant" memory controlles and RAM , higher power requirements, etc. )


The real issue was that AMD didn't have a CPU+GPU option ready to go and Intel's implementation had major problems. Forget Nvidia then had nothing and will have nothing next year too.


Going with a AMD Zacate, if launching along with MBA, will have some tradeoffs too. Hardcore CPU only jobs won't be as fast, but the graphics beats the slop of out Intel's offerings. Also competes well on CPU+Graphics job mix with a C2D + nvidia solution while potentially occupying even less space internally ( which is a good match to the MBA's space constraints ) .
 
I would love to have a really thin 12" powerbook. I mean, what is it, macbook air? :p
 
It would be nice to see the rumored 11.6'' Macbook merged with the Macbook Air. The computer line is congested. Anyhow, this is a good sign that there is a possibility of a Macbook Air refresh.

If was unclear if that old rumor didn't mean MBA and just used "Macbook" as a generic name to refer to the model.

For an "entry level" model laptop it doesn't make lots of sense to chop down the screen size to 11.6" from 13". Especially if the price isn't going to drop. There are way too many competing entry offerings that costs less at the 13" price point.


I don't see Apple dropping the MacBook down into the iPad's price range. If anything the Mac Mini showed that they are willing to move the price up. ( could kill the Macbook and just offer MBP 13" as entry point if volume/discount purchasing wasn't probably a factor) .


I can see Apple trading in the name "Macbook Air" for "Macbook" and perhaps kill off the current Macbook as a separate model. The current Macbook is boxed in. Can't naturally go cheaper ( as its competitors have because not to compete with iPad on price) and can't go higher (because overlaps with MBP ). So boxed into a single offering with very limited build to order add ons.
 
Combo Device - Air & iPad!?

Here's a cool idea.. What if the new Macbook Air was actually in 2 pieces (screen & keyboard) which could somehow be disconnected from each other? If you want a OSX machine the screen and keyboard are connected like the normal Mac Air (albeit a bit smaller form factor - say 12"), however when you disconnect the screen from the keyboard the screen becomes an iPad?!
The iPad screen runs iOS and has access to the normal apps and iTunes and functions just like a normal iPad. When both parts are connected it reverts to a normal OSX laptop and everything synchs together. The mechanism of connecting the 2 parts needs to be sturdy and 'magical' so it doesn't break easily, but I think this is a product people WOULD pay a premium for, as opposed to the current Air cost premium. Is this something you guys think is possible or would you want one?
 
but if they really are pulling the Superdrives for a refresh to make way for airized Macbook Pros,

Who says Apple is refreshing the external drives? They could also be dumping them because they just don't sell very well. Relatively very low volume products get killed off. Apple label printers .... gone. 30" Displays ... gone. iPod music speaker docks ..... gone. It is not like this hasn't happened before.

An external DVD usb drive is a commodity product. There are huge number of other vendors selling those and there isn't anything particularly special about Apple's implementation. Heck, as the read-only Blu-Ray external drives have come down in cost it makes it all the more obvious that Apple's external drive is not keeping up with the external optical market. You can find numerous drives with either faster and more flexible interfaces, better features (lightscribe), and/or more media coverage for the same amount of money.

Long term wouldn't be surprised to see Apple go to read only SDXC cards as being the diagnostic recovery/install media. (all Macs will get a SDXC card slot). They just cost a bit too much right now. (about 10x more expensive $/GB than DVD media but getting incrementally lower each year. ). There is a standard convention for making those cards Read Only which is pragmatically necessary if trying to replace read-only DVD media.

When Apple decided floppy disks were "old tech" not worth supporting they just dropped them from there line up. It was 3rd party USB floppy drives had to turn to. If Apple decides that DVDs are "dead" to the entire mac line, they will just leave everyone hanging for solutions that 3rd parties will deliver.
 
Here's to hoping for:
- an anti glare screen option
- expandability to 8gb ram and 512 ssd
- 3 (properly spaced) usb ports
- hdmi
- blu ray option
- within three pounds.

.... NO .... wait I just described the Sony Z :eek:

We'll soon see how far Apple falls short of the mark on this one.

you mean lets see how far short sony falls from apple,

that sony z, costs $2000! and with only 3.5 hours of dvd playback. and twice the thickness of the current outdated air
 
An update to the MBA will most probably be RIGHT after the Q4 conference call (financial results).

Canny wait, interested to see what they do to the MBA.
 
Nvidia didn't want folks to notice they have no x86 answer for the upcoming CPU+GPU fusion. They don't. Claiming Intel is an evil meany just diverts folks attention from the facts.

Uh ? The facts are Intel is refusing to license them to make chipsets for the newer architecture and is in fact suing nVidia to actively prevent it.

Maybe you should drop the nVidia hate a bit and check your "facts".

you mean lets see how far short sony falls from apple,

that sony z, costs $2000! and with only 3.5 hours of dvd playback. and twice the thickness of the current outdated air

The Vaio Z doesn't compete with the Air either. It's a competitor to the MBP line. In fact, it kind of crushes it, for a premium. 1920x1080 on a 13" screen is a dream come true. At least one manufacturer "gets it".
 
you mean lets see how far short sony falls from apple,

that sony z, costs $2000! and with only 3.5 hours of dvd playback. and twice the thickness of the current outdated air

The DVD playback time on a MBA is zero hours because it doesn't have one.

It also sports a better CPU and several features MBA doesn't have at same weight. So Sony made some tradeoffs (slightly smaller width and depth footprint for a thicker one. Most laptops are not normally shipped by interoffice memo envelope. so it is still pretty thin and weighs just as much. ) . The MBA is between the Sony Z and the Sony X. If lighter, thinner, and willingness to trade off screen size are most important than probably would pick the Sony X over MBA. If wanted more "horsepower" than MBA then would probably pick Sony Z.

Sony doesn't have something that matches exactly feature for feature.
However, I think that is the point. Those are two slightly different markets for which the MBA doesn't exactly hit either one. If want to get into a contest about who is "thinner" the Sony X relatively makes the MBA looks like a MBP 15". If want to be 3 lbs and not have chucked features ( optical , faster processor , etc. ) again... the MBA is lacking.
 
All Out of Love

So 'Sweet Dreams' to 'Air Supplies'? They're 'All Out of Love'?

</worst jokes ever>
 
Just a wild thought, but has anyone considered the possibility of apple discontinuing the MBAir?
 
apple should kill it or if they don't use the new duel core atom chips and a 25-50% price cut and one major thing NO soldered ram chips
 
MacBook Air = Waste

It's a low end laptop for a high end price. It's slim but still pretty weighty. And it doens't have real USB, just mini, FireWire, or a disc drive. :mad: :eek:

The worst Apple product made after 2000 next to the iPod Shuffle without buttons. :rolleyes:

WHY would anyone want it? Who cares if it's slightly slimmer?! Upgrade or not, a terrible concept. The MacBook Air should be just a large iPad with a keyboard attached. It would be slimmer, cheaper, and about as usable (not saying the iPad is not usable, it's just only usable for beginner/unserious users. It's actually a nice alternative to buying a full laptop if you don't need it).

Apple should make a MacPad (and MacPad Pro).

Apple, please :apple:-z this product. Get rid of it like you did for the buttonless shuffle.
 
It's an odd time to go for an upgrade - Sandy Bridge won't roll out until next year, so they'd be stuck with either a ULV i5 or the current C2D packaging. Both options have issues (the dedicated/integrated GPU issue) so from an engineering standpoint I'm curious as to which path they'll take.

A smaller screen makes sense to differentiate it from the Macbook/Pros but then you're pretty much in netbook territory.

But then again, has anyone succeeded in getting OSX to run on Atom? The new dual-cores are pretty good performance wise and blow everything else away on power draw. A 11.6" MBA with Atom D550 and ION2, perhaps?

Also soldered SSD storage to get the weight and power draw down even more.

It could be a great road warrior device and a counterpoint for people who want ultra-light but need OSX as opposed to the iPad.
 
No genius, you didn't describe the Sony Z, because the Sony Z doesn't run OS X. Better luck next time.

FYI apple "fell" well ahead of the mark the other times around, the fact that you don't like it doesn't mean you should come here and make inflammatory comments for anyone who does like their airs and is looking forward for the new one.

So you are gang ho about sony z, why don't you ignore this thread then or piss off to the sony forums instead.

Can anyone tell me how this site "awards" macrumors demi gods tags these days? Is it a prerequisite to make wise ass idiotic comments about apple? Why is this guy a demi god in the glorious godly macrumors... is he moderating tooo...ssshhhhh unbelievable.

What you forget is that there are sub $500 ultra thin and lights that put the Air to shame. The Dell Vostro is a prime example, with 2 USB ports, an express card slot, SD slot, eSata/USB combo port, and mic input (along with the video out, USB, and headphone jack that the Air has). For $500. Of course you can upgrade to a Core 2 processor or SSD, if you're inclined, but for word processing or the internet (what most people use the Air for, I do believe) the base celeron CPU at $500 works just great.

So putting the Air in perspective, Apple did fall very short of the competition, when you compare specs to price ratio, obviously excluding a Windows 7/OS X comparison.
 
IMO they should axe the plastic MacBooks and introduce Air models in the same price range.
 
I think the ipad will cannibalize sales of the macbook air. Would current owners run out for a new one or would they rather get an ipad and some other devices to go with it like an Apple TV and just keep the old computer?

And shouldn't this be the macbook pro air to say it is on par with the macbook pro vs. the macbook?

Perhaps they should have Michael Jordan endorse it and call it an "Air Jordan".
 
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