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It's going to be an iPad with a keyboard! ;)

I'm guessing that it already is the iPad. The Air has been a fashion statement and a way to tell the world, "I can afford this." Its portability (really its only strong suit) has been trumped by the iPad, which can do almost as much as the Air (given the right apps). I wouldn't be surprised if the Air simply vanishes into ... thin air.
 
The 12" PowerBook had a full sized keyboard. An 11.6" 16:9 screen is probably just as wide as a 12" 4:3 screen. Look at the current MacBook Air - there's lots of space on the side of the keyboard.

I loved my 12" PowerBook G4. Now I commute everyday by bicycle with a 13.3 first gen MacBook and I crave something smaller. I spent way too many hours f%$king around with hackintosh netbooks, put crazy fast SSDs in, but still performance was crappy on an Atom chip.

The price for performance of current Air, along with the lack of updates steers me away from splurging on one now (+ lack of spare $$!).

I think Apple won't ever deliver a new machine with a bleeding edge SSD, as it wouldnt be tested and price would be crazy. I just want the ability to buy an ulta-portable Mac laptop and then jack up the performance with one of the latest SSDs, which really do offer awesome performance now.

I think Apple thought it's "Magical" iPad would lower the numbers of people buying hackint0sh netbooks, but hopefully it didn't and they will realise there is still a great need for another portable powerful laptop, like the PowerBook G4 12" was (and still is if you don't need to use any recent software :p )

Waiting with anticipation...
 
Maybe they stopped carrying them because nobody wants them? After all they were a gimmick. They were even more overpriced and underspeced than the usual apple offerings.
 
What you forget is that there are sub $500 ultra thin and lights that put the Air to shame. The Dell Vostro is a prime example... For $500....

So putting the Air in perspective, Apple did fall very short of the competition, when you compare specs to price ratio, obviously excluding a Windows 7/OS X comparison.

Interesting comparison - - the Dell Vostro is 1.48" thick compared to the MBA at 0.76".





Any thinner and they'll have to call it the Macbook Imagination.
It would cease to be a mini-laptop and become a weapon.... Watch out! You can lop off an arm with that!

...and make it shaped like a star.

;)
 
My wish list for this device.

3g/4g connectability

Retina Display

Glass trackpad

Accelerated flash for battery life

3 GB ram

128g SSD.

Mini-Video port.
 
In the US store all 2 models and the superdrive ship within 24 hours. May be once again false alarm. I would be surprised to see an update before 2011, when C2D runs out... If I followed the discussion correctly (which I did not very closely though - where is Scottsdale) there is currently no suitable low voltage chip for the air other than the C2D. So any update with the C2D would have a limited lifetime of few months in theory...
 
I don't know how Apple is going to come out with an 11.6 Air when Steve Jobs said that the one thing he didn't like about other ultra portables was the cramped keyboard. I can't see how a full sized keyboard could fit with an 11.6" screen Air. It remains to be seen I guess. Honestly the AIR needs to be discontinued. It's way too much money for such a limited experience on a computer.
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The 12" PowerBook had a full sized keyboard. An 11.6" 16:9 screen is probably just as wide as a 12" 4:3 screen. Look at the current MacBook Air - there's lots of space on the side of the keyboard.

I was going to say exactly that. My iBook leaves about a quarter inch on each side, and is the smallest laptop there is at 12" with a full size keyboard. The smallest the widescreen laptops can go before they downsize? Twa-da! 11". :)

MacBook Air with a touch screen, fold it back, instant iPad but with OSX and iOS. Hmm... The missing link.

I'd buy one! :D Awesome thinking.

air is irrelevant with ipad now the best selling portable device. air sucks.
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Yo Price People!

This cant be the laptop equivalent of an iPad...as many good folks pointed out, the iPad already does a great job (app dependent) of mobile computing. If Apple wants to sell these past the "Im rich and am proving it" crowd...make it reasonably affordable > ~800...with the MacBook/Macbook Pro base at 999/1199, its got to fill the price gap of the iPad and notebook line. Since its supposed to be the "iPad/Macbook" hybrid. Heres to hopeless dreams;)
 
Maybe they stopped carrying them because nobody wants them? After all they were a gimmick. They were even more overpriced and underspeced than the usual apple offerings.

The SSD version runs rings around my other stock macs. I've been waiting for the new rev to come out as have a number of other people. High price but worth it for people who care about weight.
 
I'm guessing that it already is the iPad. The Air has been a fashion statement and a way to tell the world, "I can afford this." Its portability (really its only strong suit) has been trumped by the iPad, which can do almost as much as the Air (given the right apps). I wouldn't be surprised if the Air simply vanishes into ... thin air.

You're hilarious dude! This is by far the most ignorant statement I've heard this week. If all you do is sit on a couch and consume movies, music, etc, and never work, yes, the iPad can do almost as much FOR YOU as the Air, but I'd contest even that. I can't even start addressing your point because it's so empty. Sorry, no personal offense, but I recommend thinking before posting.

And btw, nothing against the iPad (I own one).
 
Uh ? The facts are Intel is refusing to license them to make chipsets for the newer architecture and is in fact suing nVidia to actively prevent it.

Maybe you should drop the nVidia hate a bit and check your "facts".

In this specific market , two chip solutions, even if Nvidia had a license it is pointless. Nvidia wants a license for QPI ( and secondarily for the associated DMI interface... if believe Nvidia they said they already had that).

Having a QPI license is pointless for the mobile Core iX chips since the QPI interface is inside the the chip package. They can't interface to it. So that lawsuit on Nvidia's part is in part a bunch of 'hot air' because for many of Intel offerings they can't even connect to the bus they are trying to license.

DMI is too slow for graphics traffic. Nvidia would have same limited graphics performance problems that Intel has but for slightly different reasons if tried to leverage that bus. DMI being critical for Nvidia long term business would be that building soutbridge chips was critical for Nvidia. It wasn't and isn't.

Even if Nvidia got a QPI/DMI license pragmatically it really only means they get another round to participate building solutions that compete against the X58 + southbridge chipsets. Even with the license they are still squeezed out of the integrated graphics market. Once you loose control of the memory controller it is largely over in trying to deploy a competitive integrated graphics solution. You will be stuck on the other side of a bus that is extremely likely to have higher latency effects if attempt to constantly stream memory values back and forth over the bus.

So end up with really quirky, hand-wavy, proposed offerings where combine discrete graphics chip with soutbridge ( hanging off DMI and also perhaps PCI-e ) or some monster northbridge/southbridge elements ( a X58-like, high bandwdith PCI-e slots + discrete + southbridge ) . If that is the market Nvidia is trying to sue to join then they really don't get it. There is no long term technological solution there. Once competing to be the other, more powerful, graphics chip not really going to help much to be saddled with having to throw gobs of transistors at implementing north/southbridge functionality also. That's not going to keep costs or complexity down either.

Additionally, Nvida was never a force in the server chipset market so from Intel perspective it wasn't like they were going to bring much value add contributions that large segment of the QPI bus solution space either. Stripped of graphics was there anything that is standout on the Nvidia chipsets ?

In system solutions where motherboard space is not at a very high premium a discrete solution on a PCIe- card works just fine. Works in the iMac, MBP 15" and many other PC systems. PCI-e is a standard and Nvidia has licenses for it.

There is no suit Nvidia can make to make Intel not move the memory controller to the CPU package. It is not about the bus. Spin doctoring that is about a bus is a distraction and delusion. So Nvidia suing Intel over QPI is about as effective a "noise maker" as it is a technological solution. It solves nothing in the MBA or MBP 13" space.






Part of the FTC settlement with Intel is that they support the PCI-e interface for at least another 6 years. They're not clearly outlining that they would be supporting it partially lead to the dust up with Nvidia:

"the FTC is requiring that Intel accurately represent its roadmap. One of the FTC’s charges was that Intel mispresented its roadmap to NVIDIA which in turn lead to the spat between NVIDIA and Intel over chipsets, buses, and licensing rights, so this would forbid Intel from offering false roadmaps in the future."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3839/intel-settles-with-the-ftc/2


Nvidia suing Intel added fuel to the FTC's case. Nvidia forcing Intel to license something that Intel invented.... there is very little precedence for that ever being successful.
 
What's up with all these trolls posting in a MBA forum just to yell to the world that they don't like the MBA? Why not contribute in meaningful ways to forums about things you're interested in?

Three words for you my friends: get a life.
 
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The idea that the new Air Jr. would be not shrunk from a Mac o/s Air, but built upwards from an iPad by adding a physical keyboard (remember the keyboard version they added to the Newton at the last minute?).... is not something that I'd automatically reject.

But didn't Apple recently say that the revised 10" iPad will not be getting the ability to print after all...?... so that that capability will have to wait for the 3rd version?

That doesn't seem to bode well for any development speed, in enlarging the iOS to do more things. It looks like a slower timetable, if any, may be what's going on with that enlargement, or with any hoped-for notion of grafting an iOS control skin onto the Mac O/S.

IMHO the question still boils down to: will they -- or have they decided to -- transfer the Air to their category of small products (phone, pod, pad) which they make a serious innovative effort on?

If they move it into the priotitised group, it'll bloom. If they keep it in their painfully slowly-evolving unprioritised computer category, the Air will wilt.
 
Here's to hoping for:
- an anti glare screen option
- expandability to 8gb ram and 512 ssd
- 3 (properly spaced) usb ports
- hdmi
- blu ray option
- within three pounds.

.... NO .... wait I just described the Sony Z :eek:

We'll soon see how far Apple falls short of the mark on this one.

MATTE DISPLAY REPLY

I was just looking on a website that sells replacement/upgrade displays for notebooks. They have matte LED backlit displays for the MBA. It is a way to upgrade the MBA's display right now.

I don't see much of those options happening. One thing I like you didn't request was a 10-hour battery. A 10-hour battery isn't going to happen in a three pound MBA, without seriously limiting its capabilities/components.
 
i don't mean to spill the beans, but i have a feeling that by pulling the external Super Drives from the stores, it means goodbye to the Air.
 
Maybe they stopped carrying them because nobody wants them? After all they were a gimmick. They were even more overpriced and underspeced than the usual apple offerings.

This. I hate to say it to those who are fans but seriously, OVERPRICED and underpowered is an understatement.

That said, I doubt they would completely discontinue it, but if they plan to have it be one of their strong line machines, they need to up the specs AND drop that price. In my mind it should completely replace the white MacBook, and take over the same specs as that machine...except for the battery life, of course.
 
If they move it into the priotitised group, it'll bloom. If they keep it in their painfully slowly-evolving unprioritised computer category, the Air will wilt.

Folks keep waving the Macs are doomed flag but there have been just as many Mac announcements this year and iOS devices annoucements/product updates. The Mac ones didn't get elaborate dog-and-pony shows but as far as what has actually been done and released it is as active.

There is no need to come out with a iOS device with a permanently attached keyboard. If an iPad would work for your purposes , buy one!
If it doesn't then adding a slightly bigger screen (11.6) and a permanent keyboard isn't likely going to make a big difference.

The core OS is the same. iOS is already a mutated Mac OS X. Apple doesn't need another mutated mac OS X.

The MBA is stuck in a rut hole because there aren't any good parts that mesh well with Apple's design constraints. That's it.
When the better parts become available it will move. Until then it stays the same. Change simply for change sake is silly.
 
I bought two SSD Airs last year, his and hers. 2 gb sucks, 128 gb sucks, and I absolutely love my Air. I never want a laptop heavier again. I travel 120,000 miles a year and the Air size and weight has made travel a heck of a lot easier. Virgin has outlets at every seat, and I often do Virgin for longer flights. I am very much looking forward to an update, hopefully something a lot lighter-- the Sony Vaio X is 1.5 lbs, higher res screen, 11", full size keyboard. 2 lbs with a second battery, I believe. Also 2 gb, sadly.

8 gb of ram option and a 256 ssd would be ideal for me.

I actually don't travel with my iPad because it is extra bulk and doesn't run Office. No PowerPoint means not useful for my job.

(Posted from my iPad.)
 
You're hilarious dude! This is by far the most ignorant statement I've heard this week. If all you do is sit on a couch and consume movies, music, etc, and never work, yes, the iPad can do almost as much FOR YOU as the Air, but I'd contest even that. I can't even start addressing your point because it's so empty. Sorry, no personal offense, but I recommend thinking before posting.

And btw, nothing against the iPad (I own one).

-because when I want to get a point across, being nothing but condescending is the best way! :rolleyes: I can tell you what to do with your attitude and your iPad, but you wouldn't find it comfortable.

Now if you had responded with an intelligent post telling us how you feel, I'd be fine. All you did was tell us how you would tell us how you feel, but you didn't, and effectively double talked better than some politicians.

I'm guessing that it already is the iPad. The Air has been a fashion statement and a way to tell the world, "I can afford this." Its portability (really its only strong suit) has been trumped by the iPad, which can do almost as much as the Air (given the right apps). I wouldn't be surprised if the Air simply vanishes into ... thin air.

Let me take a crack at responding to this one. I agree with what was said. So the MacBook Air is a computer. That's just wonderful. If I wanted an overpriced / underpowered machine that has nothing going for it but looks, I'd buy a MacBook Air too.

Everyone need to wake up and see that the standard MacBook is better in almost every way but size and weight and a unibody frame. They run the same OS, and the one that costs 2/3 the price does that core task better.

The price of the MacBook Air needs to be cut in half for it to take off, and not be just a "cool statement" product. I like my computers to function, thank you, and it's sad that I'd take my iBook over the Air any day. I just can't justify the Air yet.

This. I hate to say it to those who are fans but seriously, OVERPRICED and underpowered is an understatement.

That said, I doubt they would completely discontinue it, but if they plan to have it be one of their strong line machines, they need to up the specs AND drop that price. In my mind it should completely replace the white MacBook, and take over the same specs as that machine...except for the battery life, of course.

You and I could get along well.
 
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