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MacBook Anticipation

haleyvan said:
so...it doesn't matter if they're announced tomorrow or in may/june, basically we won't have them in our hands until june/july because of shipping delays??? is this true?
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Apple has been famous in the past for announcing a product with shipping dates which are 1-2 months out. Then again, they also have released products which are hipping immediately, so it's really anyone's guess. It definitely shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone if they do indeed announce shipping dates into the summer.

At least they'll be hitting the back to school buyers in the fall regardless... :eek: ;)
 
~Shard~ said:
Apple has been famous in the past for announcing a product with shipping dates which are 1-2 months out. Then again, they also have released products which are hipping immediately, so it's really anyone's guess. It definitely shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone if they do indeed announce shipping dates into the summer.

At least they'll be hitting the back to school buyers in the fall regardless... :eek: ;)
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oh MAYN..my dell just died and i have been waiting for these ibooks since november. like everyone else, i'm not even excited anymore and i highly doubt they'll announce them tomorrow. i've already gotten my hopes smashed one too many times this year! i should stop checking this site...
 
haleyvan said:
oh MAYN..my dell just died and i have been waiting for these ibooks since november. like everyone else, i'm not even excited anymore and i highly doubt they'll announce them tomorrow. i've already gotten my hopes smashed one too many times this year! i should stop checking this site...
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I hear where you're coming from - no one said this transition would work out perfectly for everyone from a timing perspective. Not much you can do about it unfortunately... :(
 
epepper9 said:
Could be a number of reasons. For one thing, remember that a hard drive is capable of much faster speeds than USB 2.0 has, eg FW800, SATA, etc. The circuitry in your HDD is probably just better and designed for faster transfers and bigger files... Well that's my guess anyway. :confused: Unless you connected your shuffle to your keyboard, in which case it would only be USB 1.1?
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Actually I'm stuck here with this Windows mashine. Using Macs a lot, but don't own one yet (waiting for a small but fast portable). You're right about file sizes, but caching doesn't work at all when using drives via USB (on Windows). Oh well, it's fast enough for now.
 
epepper9 said:
Well that's my guess anyway. :confused: Unless you connected your shuffle to your keyboard, in which case it would only be USB 1.1?
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Can't be. shuffles require a powered usb port. keyboard ports aren't powered.
 
~Shard~ said:
Well, you see, there's this website called 'Google' and it's the darndest thing... :p ;)

Just bugging ya - here are some links I have on the subject. :cool:
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Damn... and I just figured out the details of HDDs a few months ago...
Can't wait for holographic memory in my iPod. A few terrabytes... No need to compress your CDs anymore. :D :eek: :cool: :p :rolleyes: :) ;) <insert more happy smileys here>
 
milo said:
What's never going to happen? That we'll never see more BTO options? That seems like a rather foolish prediction.
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No. You said you'd rather see a stripped down 15" MBP sold for cheaper than see a 15" MB. That's what's never going to happen. Why would they price and spec it like a consumer product but keep the "pro" casing and name? Why would you even prefer that? :confused:

milo said:
I think you're just hung up over semantics. I think we will see a pro and budget 13", they just won't be two completely different models.
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It's not just semantics; it makes a big difference if they're in the same "family" or not. Professional people don't want to take a white plastic ibook in to a business meeting. Also, the build quality on the ibooks is nowhere near that on the powerbooks. (I've owned both.)

milo said:
One option is instead of upgrading the base 15", just keep the same specs but drop the price until it's $1499 and up the specs of the "pro" version at $1999.
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I'd be happy with that. But apple has never priced 15" laptops in the "pro" line anywhere near $1500, and I don't see why they'd start now. If there's a $1500 15" laptop, it'll be in the consumer line.

milo said:
And just for the record, I don't think there's a chance in hell of a mac hardware announcement tomorrow.
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Sadly, I agree. :( Ship times are still within 24 hours... no way anything is coming.

rhsgolfer33 said:
No one needs it that streamlined? You havent run a business have you? Streamlined=saved dollars....
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Ok, so like I said before, let's streamline it down to just one laptop and one desktop. Perfect simplicity. :rolleyes:

Of course simplicity is good. But so is actually selling products that your customers want. Apple's lineup is already one of the most simple of any major computer maker. Compare to Dell: They have 3 lines, low (2 sizes), medium, (3 sizes) and high (2 sizes) end. IMO, that's too much. But 2 consumer sizes and 3 pro sizes is not.

There clearly needs to be a balance. Having 4 sizes of macbook and 4 sizes of MBP would be too many choices at the cost of efficient streamlining. Having 1 size of macbook and 2 sizes of MBP would be too far the other way, and I really hope apple doesn't do it.
 
no seriously, your're kidding right?

not at all. while everyone here is waiting, and has been for months, i have what i need.
 
There's better than a 50-50 chance there will be an announcement before the analyst meeting. Apple should know that analysts do not necessarily care so much on how great they have done in the past quarter or so because that is by and large already accounted for in their estimates. Analysts care most about the growth story and how Apple plans to achieve that growth. The Boot Camp announcement was deliberately timed a couple of weeks ago to cause a paradigm shift for Apple to be viewed as a credible PC competitor and not just as a niche 5% player, allowing the launch of a slate of new consumer computer products to be viewed in a whole new light. I work on Wall Street, and I think this all will be viewed very favorably by analysts and investors.

I haven't been following Apple until recently, but IMO there does not have to be a splashy launch for the new Macbook line. Past events seem to have announced truly "new" things such as the Intel switch, Macbook Pro, HiFi, etc. So far iBook/Macbook will not be really new since it will really just be a derivative of the Mini and Macbook Pro -- nothing really "new" except for the new form factor or new colors.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I hope that was sarcastic!

WoofJoe said:
I can't wait to get one so I can load Windows XP on it! The integrated graphics should be awesome! Apple rules!
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The only way I want integrated graphics is if Apple were to adopt a hybrid graphics system--integrated unplugged and discrete plugged-in. Sony just released an SZ notebook which is supposedly the first notebook with this functionality. However, I don't think I would expect this before the next rev., and probably not until Leopard is released. The notebook was a 13.3" Core Duo with the GMA950 and GeForce Go 7400 with TurboCache. Not sure I like the choice of gfx card, but the price tag was a hefty $1999, so I imagine the possibility of a three-tiered MacBook: a low-end model (integrated gfx only), a mid-range model (discrete gfx only), and a high-end model to replace the 12" PB (hybrid gfx). At least, I think this would be interesting.
 
Hoosier said:
There's better than a 50-50 chance there will be an announcement before the analyst meeting.
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Just my 2 cents.
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First, I welcome our new member and appreciate that (s)he's an insider. (S)He has a point actually. Do you know when the analyst meeting will take place? I have to set up an alarm clock so that I can sleep well without having nightmares about missing out something. And if I like what I see, I want to order it fast to get it fast.

Yea, I know, I'm a geek :p
 
QCassidy352 said:
Of course simplicity is good. But so is actually selling products that your customers want. Apple's lineup is already one of the most simple of any major computer maker. Compare to Dell: They have 3 lines, low (2 sizes), medium, (3 sizes) and high (2 sizes) end. IMO, that's too much. But 2 consumer sizes and 3 pro sizes is not.
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Considering all the hype thats been surrounding the 13.3" Macbook(12" & 14" ibook/12" powerbook replacements) line I really doubt theyre going to have any problem selling products consumers and pros want. If they make a powerfull 12" Powerbook replacement Macbook they won't have a problem selling it just as well as the old 12", most of the people I see buying or carrying the 12" powerbook are hardly what I would consider "pros".
 
Just got my new macbook pro

Just got my new Macbook pro from the refurbished apple store. Paid overnight shipping got it in a week and half or so. Pretty rediculous from the beginning. Just unpacked it, keyboard is sticky, the space bar and many other keys stick down. If you press down a key it will stick on the bottom for about 2-3 seconds and slowly work it's way back to the normal position. Looks like pop was spilled on it and no one checked..

Called apple, and they would not send a replacement, rather they are making me send it in for repair which will take another week or so.

I asked what they would do to make it right, and they offered me iWork 06. I agreed because she said she couldn't do anything else but frankly I'm still not happy.

What would you do in this situation? Accept the repair? Ask for an upgrade to 2.0ghz? Dispute the credit card transaction? Please help me see this from other's perspective.

Look forward to a reply.
 
CellarDoor said:
Can't be. shuffles require a powered usb port. keyboard ports aren't powered.
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That must be why you can't plug your mouse into the keyboard port.

There's no power for the mouse electronics. Especially the optical mice with the red LED.

I've often wondered why Apple puts those completely useless ports on the keyboard.

</sarcasm>
 
MrCrowbar said:
Damn... and I just figured out the details of HDDs a few months ago...
Can't wait for holographic memory in my iPod. A few terrabytes... No need to compress your CDs anymore. :D :eek: :cool: :p :rolleyes: :) ;) <insert more happy smileys here>
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Exactly - it's gonna be great! :D

Now combine that with Apple's multi-touch display technology which they have patents on, and that would be one simply amazing system. :eek: :cool:
 
"white plastic" == "fugly"

QCassidy352 said:
Professional people don't want to take a white plastic ibook in to a business meeting.
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Many of us don't want to take a white plastic *anything* *anywhere*.

"white plastic" == "fugly"

That's why I have a red Nano (the original) and a black Nano (the Apple one).

Too bad Apple ships white headphones and USB cable with the black Nano. For a company so consumed with "style", that seems to be an egregious oversight.
 
iPodMechanic said:
Just got my new Macbook pro from the refurbished apple store. Paid overnight shipping got it in a week and half or so. Pretty rediculous from the beginning. Just unpacked it, keyboard is sticky, the space bar and many other keys stick down.

What would you do in this situation?
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Ask to speak to the supervisor (as many times as necessary).

Apple screwed up in refurbishing - get it made right, and don't accept being weeks without your computer while "maybe" they clean the Coke out.

If they replace the keyboard, will you trust that there's no damage to the speakers, or other components. (Coke and many other soft drinks and fruit juices have a lot of acid.)

Don't expect a faster system - but demand a *different* one.
 
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