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I just dont see how Apple could release a NEW notebook with NEW features and sell it LESS than the current iBook....it doesnt make much sense. Sure, they could do it, but it doesnt mean they will.
 
Cooknn said:
If they want to capture the PC/Laptop users it better have a two button (enabled) scrollpad :rolleyes:

keep dreaming lol. they have mighty mouse for that, and even then its still single click in shape
 
Willis said:
keep dreaming lol. they have mighty mouse for that, and even then its still single click in shape
I'm actually thinking along the same lines for the track pad. One button that can detect right and left. Maybe it's a dream, but if Apple is smart, they will make it a reality :cool:

Regarding the inside info on CompUSA... When is the last time they got a new Apple product the same time it was announced?
 
I was shocked when I heard that comp was actually getting a product on time, but since it is graduation present season that would make sense. With switching becoming more and more common, actually having 'budget' laptops with decent specs would be a smart move to have accessible in retail stores as soon as possible in order to secure some customers.
 
netdog said:
I am liking this. Give me an iBook with no optical drive. Shades of when Steve dropped the floppy.

And make it a WIRELESS SuperDrive that you can pull out of the bag when you need it and hook up with no wires at all!
 
So when does everybody think their gonna release it. Im guessing sunday cause its a week after they released the ads. (i think)
 
Multimedia said:
Is it not still on a card you can add in later? Or is it on the motherboard now? If it's on the MOBO then it cost almost nothing so include it.

It's on the motherboard. As I understand it, it's actually part of the multifunction chips that Intel makes to complement the Core CPUs (the same chips include memory controllers, IDE controllers, and the dreaded GMA 950 - I believe even the iMac and MacBook Pro have the GMA 950, it's just not enabled.)

And I am only speculating about a $799 model Pherri, not less.

Don't discount it. The market has changed quite radically from the market the iBook was launched into (the iBook, arguably, was one of the catalysts for that change.) Remember, Apple isn't launching a new iBook. It's launching an entirely new series of laptops and phasing out the iBook. Unlike the MBP, which at least attempted to look like it's predecessor, this is more than just a name change when it comes to the marketing (technologically the MBP and PB are miles apart, but Apple's been keen on promoting the notion one is an upgraded version of the other. No such thing is going on with the MacBook. It's a new form factor, new shape, new configuration, and has a new name to go with it.)

A low-end laptop goes for $500 these days. A top-of-the-line low-end model, or bottom-of-the-line mid-range consumer laptop is around the $700-800 mark. Apple has recently tried to ensure that generally what you get for your dollar isn't much worse than what rivals sell for. So I don't think we're looking at a $999 price for a laptop whose spec (see below) is comparable to a $740 ($840 before rebate) Dell. It's not going to be $740, obviously. But $800 isn't beyond the realms of the possible, and $900 is highly probable, especially if what we're looking at is a MBP with a 13" screen and the same hardware specs as the Mac mini. (Core Solo 1.5GHz. Intel graphics, 60Gb HD, 512Mb RAM, FW400)

If I'm wrong, it's probably because Apple intends, instead, to make this a high-end consumer laptop, in which case we're looking at an iMac in a laptop case, not a Mac mini, but then we can expect the prices to be much higher than the iBook's, possibly even equal to their iMac equivalents. But if that was the case, I wouldn't expect the inside talk of it being their highest seller, and, well, I just don't see it anyway. At this time I think they want to get Macs more affordable, not less.
 
help

okay, this might of had been (and probably has) been asked before but i wasn't able to find any clear answers so please don't start bashing

im a student right now looking at buying the upcoming macbook.... this will be my first mac (i've played with OSX86 and fell in love with OSX)
the problem is im starting to hear all these problems with the MBP (being REV.A) so i really dont know what i should do since i will need a new laptop during fall 06.... anyhow, any input would help.

thx a lot!:)
 
inmotion said:
okay, this might of had been (and probably has) been asked before but i wasn't able to find any clear answers so please don't start bashing

im a student right now looking at buying the upcoming macbook.... this will be my first mac (i've played with OSX86 and fell in love with OSX)
the problem is im starting to hear all these problems with the MBP (being REV.A) so i really dont know what i should do since i will need a new laptop during fall 06.... anyhow, any input would help.

thx a lot!:)

Thats the million dollar question really, you have 2 schools of thought on it-

1) That Apple will have learnt from their Macbook Pro mistakes (How to apply thermal compound correctly for example!) and so the iBook will be OK

2) They will not have learnt from their mistakes and the revA iBook/Macbook will have bugs as seen on the Macbook Pro (Heat, whine and battery drop-outs)

So you really have 2 options-

1) Go for a G4 iBook, keep it for 6/8 months until Apple announce the Rev.B Macbook/iBook (Hopefully with a Merom Core CPU not core Duo which is on the way out anyway)

2) Wait and wait and wait a bit more for the Macbook and then cross fingers that if there are any bugs you won't be affected (Apple tech support don't seem to be much help telling people with Macbook Pro's whos outside case temperature is 53degress c that this is normal!!!

Personally I think I may go for option 1 as I need a laptop at the moment but the shop i'd get it from will do 28 day returns so I might get it today but if a Macbook was announced in the next 28 days I may go running back to the store for a credit note and put my name down for a shiny new Macbook:)

Decisions Decisions... Good Luck!
 
If You Can Wait 'Til Fall, Do

inmotion said:
okay, this might of had been (and probably has) been asked before but i wasn't able to find any clear answers so please don't start bashing

im a student right now looking at buying the upcoming macbook.... this will be my first mac (i've played with OSX86 and fell in love with OSX)
the problem is im starting to hear all these problems with the MBP (being REV.A) so i really dont know what i should do since i will need a new laptop during fall 06.
OK so this means you can wait until Fall. Which means you should wait until Fall when Apple may very well quit using Yonah processors and switch the line to Merom which run cooler, quieter, faster wtih 64-bit capability for long range insurance. By then all the problems the MacBook may have will have been reported and fixed on the assembly line(s).

If you don't really want to wait until Fall then go ahead. You need to buy AppleCare for any portable anyway. So you'll be covered. :)
 
thx a lot for the replies... i think im gonna cuff my hands somewhere and hold back untill fall (even if they do release the new mb next umm... tuesday ? :p )
my current laptop (asus m5n running osx86) is doing great except for the fact that the fan is CRAZY loud (not exactly good in a classroom or library... thats when i wish there was SpeedFan for mac lol) and also i would like hardware that fully supports osx (and that isnt illegal :rolleyes:)

thx again. takecare.
 
Glittering Generality Unlikely To Be True For All

macgeek2005 said:
The MacBook will be less powerful than you expect, and more expensive than you expect. The End.
What if I expect a Core Solo @ 1.5 GHz for $799 and a Core Duo @ 1.66 GHz for $999 and they both ship like that? :D
 
inmotion said:
thx a lot for the replies... i think im gonna cuff my hands somewhere and hold back untill fall (even if they do release the new mb next umm... tuesday ? :p )
my current laptop (asus m5n running osx86) is doing great except for the fact that the fan is CRAZY loud (not exactly good in a classroom or library... thats when i wish there was SpeedFan for mac lol) and also i would like hardware that fully supports osx (and that isnt illegal :rolleyes:)

thx again. takecare.

most hardware is OSX compatable anyway. And if OSX doesnt have the drivers preinstalled, then you can download them. A Mac just works. 99% of the time anyway.

*as a side note, our powerbook is getting rather hot over the last few days. hotter than ive known it to be :confused:*
 
Multimedia said:
What if I expect a Core Solo @ 1.5 GHz for $799 and a Core Duo @ 1.66 GHz for $999 and they both ship like that? :D

They won't. Because they're not gonna have a $1000 gap in they're laptop lineups.
 
otis123 said:
aww i just bought a ibook, do they have a excange program?
Yes if you haven't received it, you have two weeks to send it back unopened at Apple's expense for a full refund.

macgeek2005 said:
The MacBook will be less powerful than you expect, and more expensive than you expect. The End.
What if I expect a Core Solo @ 1.5 GHz Combo for $999 and a Core Duo @ 1.66 GHz Superdrive for $1199 and they both ship like that? :D
 
MacBook

I really want a MacBook to come out in 3 days. I just hope it doesn't have the problems of the MacBook Pro (i.e. underclocking & burning up) I a quality notebook that works & that can replace my old PC with something newer. I plan to spend around $1000-1400 for it.
I just want it like this:
Intel Core Duo 1.66 ghz
60-80 gb HD
512mb
Something like a mighty mouse except for a trackpad
DVD Burner
 
macgeek2005 said:
They won't. Because they're not gonna have a $1000 gap in they're laptop lineups.
The first part doesn't justify the second.

They will. Apple cannot afford to have a $600 ($1100) - $1,000 ($1,500) gap between their cheapest low-end laptop and everyone else's. They can afford, perhaps, for a $300-400 gap if it's a noticably more powerful machine.

They'll be ultimately releasing more than just the MB. Expect a 13" MBP to fill the mid-range.

The market dictates that if Apple tried to sell a Core Solo/Intel Graphics version of the MBP for over $1,000 with a 13" screen, they'll be laughed at. Dell is selling the equivalent at $740 right now (albeit with a larger screen - but that counts against it, not for it.)

So I'm going to disagree with the pessimists. For once in my life, I'm expecting Apple to actually start at a low, well under $1,000 price. If they start above it, expect the machine to be noticably more powerful than the higher end Mac mini, and ask yourself why Apple has decided, again, to avoid the mass market and sell in the boutique.
 
peharri said:
The first part doesn't justify the second.

They will. Apple cannot afford to have a $600 ($1100) - $1,000 ($1,500) gap between their cheapest low-end laptop and everyone else's. They can afford, perhaps, for a $300-400 gap if it's a noticably more powerful machine.

They'll be ultimately releasing more than just the MB. Expect a 13" MBP to fill the mid-range.

The market dictates that if Apple tried to sell a Core Solo/Intel Graphics version of the MBP for over $1,000 with a 13" screen, they'll be laughed at. Dell is selling the equivalent at $740 right now (albeit with a larger screen - but that counts against it, not for it.)

So I'm going to disagree with the pessimists. For once in my life, I'm expecting Apple to actually start at a low, well under $1,000 price. If they start above it, expect the machine to be noticably more powerful than the higher end Mac mini, and ask yourself why Apple has decided, again, to avoid the mass market and sell in the boutique.

Apple said quite clearly, quite recently, that they were not sure they could come in with a notebook under $1,000/
 
peharri said:
The first part doesn't justify the second.

They will. Apple cannot afford to have a $600 ($1100) - $1,000 ($1,500) gap between their cheapest low-end laptop and everyone else's. They can afford, perhaps, for a $300-400 gap if it's a noticably more powerful machine.

They'll be ultimately releasing more than just the MB. Expect a 13" MBP to fill the mid-range.

The market dictates that if Apple tried to sell a Core Solo/Intel Graphics version of the MBP for over $1,000 with a 13" screen, they'll be laughed at. Dell is selling the equivalent at $740 right now (albeit with a larger screen - but that counts against it, not for it.)

So I'm going to disagree with the pessimists. For once in my life, I'm expecting Apple to actually start at a low, well under $1,000 price. If they start above it, expect the machine to be noticably more powerful than the higher end Mac mini, and ask yourself why Apple has decided, again, to avoid the mass market and sell in the boutique.

YOU can expect a laptop over $1,000 to be much more powerful than the Mac Mini, but I know better. Apple can rip us off if they want, cause we'll still buy they're stuff. They'll have a MacBook priced well over $1000 with the same specs as the Mac Mini. You wait.
 
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