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MacBook Neo Outsold Every Other Mac in Its Debut Quarter

Astuces iOS said:
For sure you won't run those apps there, but what about normal apps like Claude AI or discord that use electron and eat your ram, add an animated background to that and you will see how fast it will drain.

Apple isn't the problem, they have a good strategy, you buy the new and then want to upgrade to the air ! We will see in 3 years anyways...
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The fact that you're reaching this much says a lot.

You start by arguing that the MacBook Neo has insufficient RAM. Then when you're presented with a solid argument, you immediately switch up and argue... PPW? Pick a side and stick with it, man.
 
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Astuces iOS said:
Don't expect the A18 Pro to be the best chip, it performs a bit like the m1 and the m1 will probably be dropped in 3 years
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You are saying that Apple will stop supporting MacBook Neo in 3 years? You do realize that even if they decided to stop supporting M1 in three years, it does not mean that they would stop supporting the A18?

Seriously, M1 with 8GB of RAM is perfectly fine for most tasks. If you have more serious needs, Apple sells beefier computers, like MacBook Air. But for its intended uses, Neo is fine for years to come.

I really don't see the point of your complaining.
 
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mdnz said:
Not really, you use a bit more extra SSD i/o but those are so power efficient nowadays it’s negligible.
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If you use a lot of swap, it could... yesterday I was using powerpoint, it uses 500mb of ram, then pages that also uses 500mb of ram... Almost everything take 500mb...

There should be sort of lite MACOS or a way to make run macOS El capitan on it just to don't make it explode... Btw the Neo battery is worse than all of MacBooks that came in the past 5 years !
 
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gummybear2026 said:
It's going to last way longer than the latest Dell XPS on 8 GB of ram. Windows doesn't allocate ram well at all.
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I agree with you, it will last longer than that... but it's like saying that a 2010 car will last longer than a 2000 car in 2026...

If we think ecology, this MacBook shouldn't exist, WE NEED TO BUILT THINGS THAT LAST ! The MacBook Air, it could last 10 years ! How Apple is going to make every product carbon neutral in 2030? Idk hahaha
 
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now i see it said:
Cannibalizing the other MacBook models.
Doubt they made any more money.
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It is a very smart move by Apple even if profits were reduced for a couple of quarters. Apple is introducing MacOS to a lot of new customers, and, reminding existing customers that it can still address the needs of "the rest of us". Long-term profits vs short-term profits.
 
zarmanto said:
No -- it's using one of their slightly older mobile phone chips in a laptop. Since Apple is already mass producing those chips and has that process pretty well established, they simply took advantage of those efficiencies to produce a lower cost laptop.
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Well.

"We noted that this was key to Apple being able to offer the MacBook Neo at such an attractive price. The company was using binned A18 Pro chips that were rejected for use in the iPhone 16 Pro because only five of the six graphic cores were working."

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Evangelion said:
So you are complaining because Apple's cheapest computer doesn't have as good specifications as their more expensive computers? I'm SHOCKED by this revelation!

Seriously, your arguments are... not smart.
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No, great move of Apple here if you think business... It's just that with 8gb and a bad battery, you won't have the time to even open MacRumors that the battery will be dead... (expression)

If you think ecology, why you make something to make people upgrade?
 
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IceCool said:
Does the "ignore" feature automatically hide someone's messages in threads and forums? I've never had to use it before, but now might be the time!
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Yes, it shows up like this.
 

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63W said:
Im still using 2014MBA with 8 gigs of ram as a daily work horse and it runs flawlessly. 🙄
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Yeah but it doesn't run the lasted OS, before things were optimized for 8gb, now they will for 16... It's a bit like the iPhone SE, no one wants to adapt to that screen
 
Evangelion said:
I have M1 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM. I think I have finally hit the limit of 8GB of RAM. It took Safari with 12+ tabs, ChatGPT, Notion, Codex and Xcode to do it. I think for basic needs, where Neo is aimed at, 8GB will be plenty for years to come.
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My 8gb m1 MacBook Pro hit the 8gb limit WAY before that. Unless you’re allowing for swap, which I do not. My disk was swapping several gigs at a time with very basic apps and a small handful of safari tabs open.
 
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Astuces iOS said:
Yeah but it doesn't run the lasted OS, before things were optimized for 8gb, now they will for 16... It's a bit like the iPhone SE, no one wants to adapt to that screen
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It's running Sonoma 14.7.6, and you know what?? It works great and it does everything it designed for, while everyone else is too busy chasing the latest version like a crack addict.
 
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Astuces iOS said:
If we think ecology, this MacBook shouldn't exist, WE NEED TO BUILT THINGS THAT LAST ! The MacBook Air, it could last 10 years ! How Apple is going to make every product carbon neutral in 2030? Idk hahaha
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Astuces iOS said:
No, great move of Apple here if you think business... It's just that with 8gb and a bad battery, you won't have the time to even open MacRumors that the battery will be dead... (expression)

If you think ecology, why you make something to make people upgrade?
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What makes you think the Neo has “bad battery”? It doesn’t have as long battery-life as Air or Pro, but it still has pretty good battery life.
 
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63W said:
It's running Sonoma 14.7.6, and you know what?? It works great and it does everything it designed for, while everyone else is too busy chasing the latest version like a crack addict.
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Good for you, btw you are lucky to not be on Tahoe and have the macOS Tahoe bugs (I really hope they fix them cause they are painful)
 
kagharaht said:
"... The company was using binned A18 Pro chips that were rejected for use in the iPhone 16 Pro because only five of the six graphic cores were working."
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I stand corrected.

Fortunately, that just improves the cost efficiencies equation that much more, as far as Apple is concerned.
 
triumvirate said:
My 8gb m1 MacBook Pro hit the 8gb limit WAY before that. Unless you’re allowing for swap, which I do not. My disk was swapping several gigs at a time with very basic apps and a small handful of safari tabs open.
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I don’t actively check whether the computer is swapping or not, I follow if I get acceptable performance or not. If I get ok performance with swapping, it’s fine by me. With the situation I mentioned, the performance was getting too bad to be acceptable.
 
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