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Macbook pro 13in - Should I have waited?
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What if they release an new iMac with maybe an ARM chip? How long would you keep your current one for?
Thanks @usagora. You seem to be the calm voice of reason
So many confliciting things about selling now and being ready for arm, a new Macbook Pro at WWDC...it goes on! Makes me think I should have bough my Macbook pro i7 16mb on release day, 4th May
Thanks @usagora. You seem to be the calm voice of reason
So many confliciting things about selling now and being ready for arm, a new Macbook Pro at WWDC...it goes on! Makes me think I should have bough my Macbook pro i7 16mb on release day, 4th May
Any time you spend $$$$ on something, it's natural to second-guess yourself because it's a lot of money involved. But you don't have anything to worry about. There will always be people who are fearmongers about big changes. These are the same people that probably start calling for people to build bunkers under their house when any big political change happens. "The sky is falling!"
We seem to be going around in circles. My answer all along has been "no"
Just one man's opinion, of course, but I'm pretty confident that your Intel MPB will give you years of enjoyable use (assuming you stop navel-gazing about it, lol!)After hearing recent comments from Ming-Chi Kuo with regards to a ARM Macbook Pro really concerned about my new MBP13 2020. I spent big money and hoped this would do me for 4 years and have some resale value. We will get few updates on the Intel and all effort will be poured into the ARM model. Be to late to swap it now!
What are u smoking getting so paranoid?
a new ARM Mac won’t break your machine.
Apple software support for Mac hardware is excellent. So just relax as yours will work fine for years
Will Apple encourage developers to update software for both the Arm and Intel platforms or just Arm only?
I have similar questions as the OP having just bought my first MBP 16in. So yeah we may be a little paranoid. This isn’t like fretting over a spec bump, it is a major shift that might jeopardize the useful longevity of our purchase.
Spot on. This is exactly how I feel. If they change anything else I wouldn't be overly fussed, but you've hit the nail on the head; It could well 'Jeopardize the useful longevity of our purchase' and after spending a huge amount of money, it concerns me.
My theory is that Apple will depreciate some frameworks and the remaining ones would be supported on both Intel and ARM. The developer would need to remove any legacy frameworks, that would be the (big) work and from there on, they simply build two versions of the same code.
As developers are supposed to be able to start migrating without any HW this is the only way I think they can get started. If this is the case we will know in a few hours, check out the WWDC keynote!
I'd actually suspect that the ARM Mac's might get less attention from 3rd party devs than x86 over the next few years to be honest.
If I'm an apple MacOS dev and 95%+ of my customers have x86 Vs the 5% ARM ones then I know which platform I'd focus my attention on.
Apple will probably need to lean hard on developers to get them to actually put in the effort to make ARM versions/updates of software for the first few years!
Given Apple always supports Macs for 7-8 years and many people often wait 5 years plus to upgrade it'll take a long time for them to make the transition.
If I'm an apple MacOS dev and 95%+ of my customers have x86 Vs the 5% ARM ones then I know which platform I'd focus my attention on.
Apple will probably need to lean hard on developers to get them to actually put in the effort to make ARM versions/updates of software for the first few years!
Given Apple always supports Macs for 7-8 years and many people often wait 5 years plus to upgrade it'll take a long time for them to make the transition.
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For those worried, the WWDC Keynote is today followed by the Platform State of the Union address. Between those two hopefully you’ll get some information that will help you make a decision.
But like others have said, the Intel Macs aren’t going to suddenly self-destruct or go dead as if an EMP hit them when ARM Macs get revealed or launch to market. Everything you have today should still work.
At minimum, watch today’s events to at least hear the information about the transition. Everything else until then is speculation and rumors.
But like others have said, the Intel Macs aren’t going to suddenly self-destruct or go dead as if an EMP hit them when ARM Macs get revealed or launch to market. Everything you have today should still work.
At minimum, watch today’s events to at least hear the information about the transition. Everything else until then is speculation and rumors.
I am not sure I disagree. But if the effort the developer has to put in, to compile twice one version of the code is close to zero, they he will probably do it. It would be a business decision, profit of more sales / customer satisfaction vs. cost.
Just staying on Intel long term is probably not an option. Apple tend to be quite forceful when they move on to the next "thing".
Apple supported PowerPC chips, meaning they developed new Oses for them, for three years after the first Intel set was introduced.
I have a G4 Powerbook right now in my home, runs the same now as it did in 2009, as long as I use the applications made for it back then.
Computers are tools, man. Buy what you need, use it for as long as you can. Being worried about resale value will drive you insane.
I have a G4 Powerbook right now in my home, runs the same now as it did in 2009, as long as I use the applications made for it back then.
Computers are tools, man. Buy what you need, use it for as long as you can. Being worried about resale value will drive you insane.
That's what I mean by "lean on Devs" as I'm sure Apple's stance will be "Make an ARM version of your MacOS app or we'll remove your app from the store!"
I'll be tuning in for WWDC keynote mainly as I'm curious to see how Apple go about transitioning to ARM. Be good to end all the speciation!
I did hear that. Thanks for adding this. Are you still OK with your iMac? Seems the transition will take 2 years and new Intel kit as well.
No problem, and yes still ok with my 2019 iMac. So far it leaves nothing to be desired.
Any Mac bought now will be worth absolutely nothing in a year from now. I’d most definitely wait with any Mac purchase until the first apple silicon models are out