Mr_Brightside_@
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With the negative reactions to the MB Ultra 1 and 2, I am waiting for the 3.
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MacBook Pro 16" or 2026 Windows laptop?
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It will probably have a five-figure price the way things are going.
Yes, the Ultra suddenly became a less attractive machine. These things (education check, price rise, delayed back to school, negative rumors of the Ultra) all seem to be a coordinated series of announcements.
Mr_Brightside_@
macrumors 601
I can't give up PC desktop as that machine is mostly for PC gaming needs.
However, in mobile sector, Apple is the king. Part of this comes from the fact that my personal computers are all for fun & personal stuff not requiring any special needs.
I've got a company issued PC/laptop for my work, and I'd like to separate work and personal space.
So on the topic, I'm definitely going to go Mac laptop route.
However, in mobile sector, Apple is the king. Part of this comes from the fact that my personal computers are all for fun & personal stuff not requiring any special needs.
I've got a company issued PC/laptop for my work, and I'd like to separate work and personal space.
So on the topic, I'm definitely going to go Mac laptop route.
lowendlinux
macrumors 603
I'm typing this from a 5 year old OLED laptop, it has zero screen burn in
If I recall correctly, MacOS supports Mac up to 5? years old. So we need to buy a now-more expensive computer every 5 years or risk security risk. It was OK for me as I usually trade-in MacBook Pro in a shorter period of time. Given the increased cost, after this year's purchase I may buy the next computer 5+ years later. At least Windows and Linux support older computers so require less frequent purchase.
Supposing that OLED and fan noise are no longer an issue, the only issue is MS's integration of AI in Windows?
Supposing that OLED and fan noise are no longer an issue, the only issue is MS's integration of AI in Windows?
lowendlinux
macrumors 603
BSDnostalgia
macrumors 6502a
No reason whatsoever to go back to x86 from Apple Silicon. But, I sure would like to go back to putting ports on Macs instead of having to carry/plug-in dongles and etc to connect anything. As I type this, I have multiport dongle plugged in to the TB/USB4 port so that I can have a SD slot, which, while old-fashioned, happens to be what a bunch of cameras from point and shoot to expensive DSLRs use. Don't get me wrong -- I love the USB-C/TB4-5/USB4/DP ports. But, it will be a while before all this valuable stuff ages out.
My Yoga has a USB-A port and it comes in handy quite often.
On my MacBook Pro, I have a right-angle dongle so that it doesn't stick out a lot.
conmee
macrumors 65816
@pshufd Here are my results. I can definitely tell the platform is being emulated. Things like scrolling (watchlists, selections) is a bit janky and not fluid like my E*Trade platform which doesn't rely on Crossover/.NET. I wouldn't want to use ATP on a non-x86 system. It looks like it will work but it definitely has a laggy feel to the UI which is not something an active trader would want. Tahoe warns me one or more components won't work after GG. I haven't looked into the new Fidelity platform Trader+ to see if it will be available in native ARM or not. That might be the best option if sticking with Fidelity on an ARM system. You'll know better than me.
I'm running in clamshell mode but I don't think that makes a difference. ATP doesn't appear to be resource intensive (just the emulation penalty).
I captured three results for you. 1) From the time I double-click the app to the first appearance of the app's title/splash screen [5 seconds]. 2) From the time the title/splash screen appears to the login popup [9 seconds for a total of 14 seconds from launch]. 3) From entering login credentials to the appearance of the dashboard which I configured for technical analysis and a 12 stock watchlist [10 seconds for a total of 24 seconds from launch to dashboard]. P.S. If you are most concerned with the time it takes from login to dashboard, then that is 10 seconds and would equal to 2015 MBP 15 (assuming you are timing login to dashboard). But if you are timing from initial double-click of the app to the dashboard, then ARM (at least my M5 Max) is half as fast sadly.
Here are my memory/system stats at Boot+5 minutes to let the system settle in.
Here are my stats with ATP running.
Hope this helps!
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In the past, the MacBook Pro 16” screen was considered as the best in the market. Is it still true?
I just came back from BestBuy. It seems that some Windows laptops also have screen as nice as the MacBook Pro 16” screen at even higher resolutions and with features of the Ultra. I wonder why I planned to keep a MacBook Pro and considered to trade-in for an Ultra.
I just came back from BestBuy. It seems that some Windows laptops also have screen as nice as the MacBook Pro 16” screen at even higher resolutions and with features of the Ultra. I wonder why I planned to keep a MacBook Pro and considered to trade-in for an Ultra.
Thanks for your efforts.
The 10 seconds is what I was after and this was my estimate based on scaling from Geekbench single-core. Your MacBook Pro has almost double the score of mine so I was expecting it to take about half the time of mine.
Trader+ is not ready for prime time. This is discussed a lot on r/Fidelity Investments. They are pushing customers to Trader+ but it's still in beta and there are some cautions about using it for live trading. There are also missing features.
It is native on Windowx x86, macOS x86 and macOS AS. People are asking for a native build on Windows 11 ARM and Linux.
I've tried Trader+ sseveral times and just keep going back to ATP on Windows.
The 10 seconds is what I was after and this was my estimate based on scaling from Geekbench single-core. Your MacBook Pro has almost double the score of mine so I was expecting it to take about half the time of mine.
Trader+ is not ready for prime time. This is discussed a lot on r/Fidelity Investments. They are pushing customers to Trader+ but it's still in beta and there are some cautions about using it for live trading. There are also missing features.
It is native on Windowx x86, macOS x86 and macOS AS. People are asking for a native build on Windows 11 ARM and Linux.
I've tried Trader+ sseveral times and just keep going back to ATP on Windows.
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My Lenovo Yoga 2-in-1 14 has 14″ 4K (3840 x 2400) 60Hz, 16:10, WQUXGA OLED, 400 nits (SDR) / 600 nits (HDR), 100% sRGB, 100% P3, Dolby Vision®, VESA Certified Display HDR™ True Black 500, TÜV Low Blue Light Certification, Eyesafe Certification, Glass, 10-point multitouch.
It does not pack the horsepower of the MacBook Pro 14 by a long shot but it has enough for what I do on it and it's 1/2 pound lighter. The pixel density of the MacBook Pro 16 is 254 pixels per inch (same as the 14). The Yoga 2-in-1 is 323 pixels per inch.
I would have preferred the Yoga Slim as I don't need tablet mode but the 2-in-1 has the USB-A port and two Thunderbolt 4 ports and one USB 3.2 USB-C port while the Slim only has two Thunderbolt 4 ports.
There are about five Windows 14 inch laptops that weigh around 2.2 pounds and that's a fantastic form-factor if you like to travel light.
One of the most amazing things about the Thinkpad X1 Carbon 14 Panther Lake is repairability.
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MacBook Pro is an overkill and waste of money unless you have very specific, niche professional needs (not wants). A MacBook Air gives you everything you need.
I wouldn't wish Windows (Win 11) on my worst enemy now. And I'm a guy who has been building/using Windows PCs my entire life. Copilot makes me sick. I want to carry on with my life avoiding as many Microsoft products and services as possible, unless absolutely necessary for work-related reasons. That means no Onedrive, Outlook (Hotmail), Xbox, Linkedin, some games (Minecraft, Activision-Blizzard stuff) etc.
I wouldn't wish Windows (Win 11) on my worst enemy now. And I'm a guy who has been building/using Windows PCs my entire life. Copilot makes me sick. I want to carry on with my life avoiding as many Microsoft products and services as possible, unless absolutely necessary for work-related reasons. That means no Onedrive, Outlook (Hotmail), Xbox, Linkedin, some games (Minecraft, Activision-Blizzard stuff) etc.
Steve Adams
macrumors 68000
Oh god. Business facebook. One of the dumbest things in the world of "business". When I hear LinkedIn, I think of Barney on HIMYM. We are international businessmen on international business.
cjsuk
macrumors 68020
It probably isn't though.
Everyone harps on about Lenovo's sudden commitment to repairability but every damn time I've had to deal with Lenovo repairs, which has been quite a lot over the years, it has been a nightmare. It has been a journey of shipping DOA batteries, not shipping anything, no parts availability, compatibility issues despite their own HMM/Psref specs being checked and general pain. Not only that they have serious design flaws like the principal USB-C ports being on the motherboard itself. Those always break first on any T/X/P series machines. Only solution? Replace motherboard. You can't replace the ports themselves as they've usually torn a chunk of the board out with them.
I'll also add that Lenovo use Digital River for fulfilment. I've had to charge back twice because they don't even respond when you open a case against a missing or DOA part. They don't even respond to the chargeback!
The opposite is true for Apple. Every time I've had to order stuff from the self service repair store it has taken 1-2 days max and everything has just worked. All the disposable bits are modular.
Saying that, the best option for Lenovo is buy something 3 years old and buy two of them. I do that with desktop machines.
Did you watch the video?
The USB ports are separate and can be replaced individually. It would be cool if you could also swap them to customize your ports but I don't know if that's an option.
lowendlinux
macrumors 603
It depends.
My experience is that Gaming 16 inch laptops have upgradeable RAM and SSD.
Lunar Lake was an anomaly as it is all soldered RAM. Panther Lake moved away from that due to complaints.
I haven't looked closely at Panther Lake 16 inch non-gaming laptops as I'm not in the market for one.
Steve Adams
macrumors 68000
Besides a couple of PCs with CAMM modules ALL laptops now have soldered ram. Right to repair and upgrade for a reasonable price be dammed.
We opened up an MSI Raider 16 last year to add an SSD and the DIMM slots were exposed.