Whatever they announce for the new MBP's, I hope the event will be on 1-11-11...it is a tuesday after all.
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I am not sure what the significance of the date.. but I LIKE IT.. bring it on!! I am ready to spend my money
Whatever they announce for the new MBP's, I hope the event will be on 1-11-11...it is a tuesday after all.
If you live outside the US/Canada, that is going to be on November 1st.
Also a tuesday by the way.
I know that I risk being cursed with horrifying diseases for this, so I will try to be careful now:
I think that this is rather a case in favor of Light Peak than against dropping the ethernet port. If I were Apple, once Light Peak is "out", my next big monitor would have a Light Peak connection at the front, where the Apple logo is, and a well-chosen selection of other connections (ethernet, firewire, usb, ...) at the back. Plug in the laptop: all set (*) (**) (***)
(*) The views expressed here are purely my own, and in fact pure fantasy, also known as fiction. Any relation that might be perceived to exist with reality, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
(**) Of course, it does not have to be a monitor, it can also be... an adapter (Apple-shaped preferably). Or an iMac, in which case your laptop is probably going to act as an external drive/second monitor/keyboard/trackpad for your iMac, while being charged by it. Well, pehaps the iMac and the MacBook should just run as a single parallel system with 2 processors and who knows how many cores.
(***) There is a case against dropping the ethernet port, if you _really_ need it on the road. Personally - see (*) - I think that this need is decreasing fast.
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to the above... i dont know about you or others here... i use my ethernet port alot
when im at home im on the wireless... but when i go to university where i live in a residential college we dont do wireless so you have to go through ethernet the alternate is buying a wireless router for my room which not gonna lie rather buy a $5 cable...
im sure the average user still finds alot of usage out of their ethernet port
btw in australia internet still costs alot and isnt that quick... id like to keep my disk drive for installing big programs...
i wish they would put one more usb slot in ... probs just me
when im at home im on the wireless... but when i go to university where i live in a residential college we dont do wireless so you have to go through ethernet the alternate is buying a wireless router for my room which not gonna lie rather buy a $5 cable...
im sure the average user still finds alot of usage out of their ethernet port
btw in australia internet still costs alot and isnt that quick... id like to keep my disk drive for installing big programs...
i wish they would put one more usb slot in ... probs just me
Many corporate IT departments require the presence of wired Ethernet. Not to mention that even if they didn't, backups of TeraByte disks would be kind of slow. There is, frankly, no reason whatsoever to get rid of wired Gigabit Ethernet on anything at this price/weight level (we're not talking about an iPhone here). Yes, wireless is more "magical" but, let's not be silly.
Just to note, that even IF the new MBP doesn't have a built-in optical disk drive, it can easily have an outboard drive, like the MBA.
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Ethernet is still used in corporate america and college dorms. Do you know how many college students are moving to mac!
I doubt Apple would eliminate a feature that so many people depend on. Theres no reason to get rid of it, its not like it takes up that much space.
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Ethernet is still used in corporate america and college dorms. Do you know how many college students are moving to mac!
And what about all the lucky people who have a 100 Mbit FttH connection? I always hook it up to ethernet when I'm home. Not advocating that it can't be removed; it's the same with the ODD. Some people need it, others don't care about it existence; the ones who use it will argue it's existence, the others its elimination. If there is an alternative to hooking a MBP up to ethernet (like an external drive), I wouldn't object to it's removal.
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Ethernet is still used in corporate america and college dorms. Do you know how many college students are moving to mac!
Well, I am very sorry that I dared to express my own experience with the ethernet port.
Speaking of ethernet. Do you need ethernet to set-up a wireless router like the Airport Extreme -- or can you do it via wireless?
You can configure it wirelessly, but to be honest I forgot what I needed to do to get it up and running initially.
Note that:
a) I did not say that the ethernet port would/should be gone in the next release. I was just wondering how much it is still used, and in what situations.
b) If it does go at some point, I expect that there will still be a way connect to ethernet via an adapter of some sort (basically what always happens when Apple decides to remove a port).
c) I am talking about laptops, not desktops, nor the use of ethernet in general.
It is beyond me why people get so agitated when I say that I don't need it in my laptop. I am not Apple.
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they could pretty easily remove the port and sell an ethernet to LP adapter and sell it for $30. It would be a rip off but they already do it with the minidisplay port. I'd assume with the LP speed that you wouldn't lose much more than a couple megabits. They can't eliminate ethernet connectivity for several years because there are still plenty of consumers that either don't have wifi or have mediocre wifi speeds and even if routers or modems with LP hit the market at CES only a small portion of consumers would upgrade immediately.
Actually it's possible no loss would be incurred...Lightpeak is a theoretical 10Gb just to start with. Ethernet is a 1Gb connection, so there shouldn't be any loss. Although I guess some loss can be expected any time you throw an adapter into the mix.
Yeah LP would transfer from the connection into the computer at a rate that would make the loss unnoticeable to the naked eye, but given how old a technology ethernet is and the fact that no matter how fast LP is there is a limit to ethernet's capability and the signal that comes in, so it probably can't get any faster. Now if you have a full LP to LP connection to your router you could get LP speeds for non-internet data transfers over your network. I'm on Comcast in Boston, so even with LP they're still only gonna send me 1.5 MB/s so I wont get any faster internet. This is all speculation, any actual experts know if I'm right?
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Ethernet is still used in corporate america and college dorms. Do you know how many college students are moving to mac!
Without an ethernet cord, I would be without internet at school like ECUPirate said.
Small world btw, thats where I go
LP connections between computers and routers wouldn't be any faster than Gigabit ethernet. Internet is not going to saturate it, and on file transfers, the hard drive is still the bottleneck, even with SSD.
Light Peak is a SCAM
Intel cannot produce non-copper cables and will not be able to in the immediate future. Then you have the fact that only people with Google's experimental broadband service could conceivably make use of Light Peak. Then there is the fact that even SSD drives can't deliver the full Light Peak experience.
So Light Peak is probably over ten years away from actually working for everyone.
Won't prevent Apple from selling you Light Peak-to-? dongles for $30 a pop though. In fact, given the number of zit faced fanboys ready to scream at us in online forums that Light Peak is a must have and anything else is from the virus invested Windows world Apple might push the Light Peak dongles at $99 each.
USB 3.0 $99.
HDMI $99
Ethernet $99.
Watch that stock price fly!
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Intel cannot produce non-copper cables and will not be able to in the immediate future. Then you have the fact that only people with Google's experimental broadband service could conceivably make use of Light Peak. Then there is the fact that even SSD drives can't deliver the full Light Peak experience.
So Light Peak is probably over ten years away from actually working for everyone.
Won't prevent Apple from selling you Light Peak-to-? dongles for $30 a pop though. In fact, given the number of zit faced fanboys ready to scream at us in online forums that Light Peak is a must have and anything else is from the virus invested Windows world Apple might push the Light Peak dongles at $99 each.
USB 3.0 $99.
HDMI $99
Ethernet $99.
Watch that stock price fly!
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Connect multiple devices into one LP port and you can easily max out the bandwidth. Current SSDs are limited by SATA 3Gb/s. SF-2000 drives are promising 500MB/s (4Gb/s) bandwidth with SATA 6Gb/s, put two of them in RAID 0 and you're nearly maxing out LP's maximum bandwidth. PCIe SSDs can already deliver more than what Light Peak can.
Displays require a lot bandwidth as well, 2560x1600 monitor @60Hz needs ~5.9Gb/s.
Nobody will force you to buy adapters from Apple, 3rd parties will be selling them for pennies.
If the new macbook pro line is announced before January 14 (the special extended warranty date for macs bought between some certain dates), I am returning my macbook air to get the pro..... if it actually is amazing like some people are expecting and also if the price is the same or within 100 dollars of the macbook air i got. Is anyone else doing this or is it just me?
my guess is the 2011 update will be a major one. there has not been a major update since the switch to intel. i think we are in for another big one.
i wonder what was meant by the macbook air is the future of macbooks? something is up with the mac app store. i wonder if any optical drives will remain.
i wonder what was meant by the macbook air is the future of macbooks? something is up with the mac app store. i wonder if any optical drives will remain.
The last big change was when they introduced the unibody design which was about 2 or 3 years after they started to use Intel CPU's.
January 14? That'd be bad in the in sense that the 13' MBP would get stuck with a core 2 again until the next next refresh, which seems pretty unlikely. I think Apple will hold out until they get sandy bridge parts for all the MBPs, including the 15' and 17'.
I thought Sandy Bridge was being revealed at CES 2011, which is January 6-9 so the new ones could come out before the 14th, couldn't they...if that information is true?