Apple currently should have some SBs with them now for testing purposes, but i don't think there will be enough time for Apple to incorporate SB into MBPs and go into production by Jan 14th. The time is just too tight, and Apple won't be able to make it.
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MacBook Pro 2011 predictions
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Apple currently should have some SBs with them now for testing purposes, but i don't think there will be enough time for Apple to incorporate SB into MBPs and go into production by Jan 14th. The time is just too tight, and Apple won't be able to make it.
oh you must work for apple then since you know so much about what apple can and can't do. Why don't you just tell us how the 2011 mbp is gonna be and the release date then?
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Hey relax pal, this thread is all about predictions and no one can say for sure. Well, I was just analysing things from my point of view which is by no means absolutely true. Believe it or not, it's up to you, and I'm open to whatever thoughts anyone might have, so chill...
i agree. this post is predictions. none of us are apple employees nor are we steve jobs where we would have a clue about the release of the MBP.. we are just apple addicts who take time and enjoy making predictions
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I see people think the optical drive will go, it might, but (as I´m sure is posted already, can´t read every single page) how would you get Final Cut Studio on a MBP?
It´s around 45GB so downloading is not really an option, and a USB stick would be too expensive in that capacity I would think.
Maybe they´ll have to bundle it with an external drive
More likely you would have to buy it though.
This is the reason I think it will stay, Jobs saying the air is the future of macbooks is the reason I think it will go
It´s around 45GB so downloading is not really an option, and a USB stick would be too expensive in that capacity I would think.
Maybe they´ll have to bundle it with an external drive
More likely you would have to buy it though.
This is the reason I think it will stay, Jobs saying the air is the future of macbooks is the reason I think it will go
I see people think the optical drive will go, it might, but (as I´m sure is posted already, can´t read every single page) how would you get Final Cut Studio on a MBP?
It´s around 45GB so downloading is not really an option, and a USB stick would be too expensive in that capacity I would think.
Maybe they´ll have to bundle it with an external drive
More likely you would have to buy it though.
This is the reason I think it will stay, Jobs saying the air is the future of macbooks is the reason I think it will go
Im downloading a 39gb file right now and its going to take about 15 hours, and thats on really slow internet. Most "pro" users will have much better speeds as well as the ability to figure out how to get final cut on their computer. There are moer ways than just downloading it.
Also, you can't assume Apple is really marketing the MBP's towards pro's anymore. Take the 13" for example. It's a GREAT computer, but definitely not professional grade. If Apple thinks that losing optical drives but making FCP harder to install will make them more money they will do it : )
-it will not have any keyboard or mouse...all movements will be done by mind control
-will be completely waterproof
-be made of recycled jeans
-will run on AA batteries and last 27.5 hours
-will be completely waterproof
-be made of recycled jeans
-will run on AA batteries and last 27.5 hours
The money part I agree on
But, I for one would really like a Hard Copy of FCS. I guess you could copy it to a USB stick or hard drive and have it that way.
It´s not ideal, but guess we are heading in that direction.
This means it could take more than 24 hours to get it up and running as just the install process takes round 4 hours.
Second, you usually have a hard copy already that you have used to install FCS on your workstation, since you are allowed to keep a second copy on your laptop using the same serial number.
Very often the workstations are not connected to the internet for safty.
So this means now you have to buy a hard copy AND downloading it to get it running on 2 Macs
I see people think the optical drive will go, it might, but (as I´m sure is posted already, can´t read every single page) how would you get Final Cut Studio on a MBP?
It´s around 45GB so downloading is not really an option, and a USB stick would be too expensive in that capacity I would think.
Maybe they´ll have to bundle it with an external drive
More likely you would have to buy it though.
This is the reason I think it will stay, Jobs saying the air is the future of macbooks is the reason I think it will go
As others have mentioned in response to this question a fair bit back, the cost of a 64GB flash disk, if bought in mass quantities, is going to be much lower than the cost of a single unit. The cost is likely to be mostly insignificant in comparison to the cost of FCS, and therefore, why shouldn't a newly purchased FCS box come with both a set of DVDs and a USB?
Other than that, there are the options of using an external DVD drive, whether it's the MBA Superdrive, or one that's faster than the present Superdrives. Other option is using Apple's remote disk drive utility, which would obviously be updated to support ODD-less MBPs. And one would assume that someone buying FCS for a MBP would also have some other Apple computer somewhere.
EDIT: Even disk imaging the DVDs and putting them on your own USB using a Windows box would probably work. Lucky Apple is so lax with their disk protection tech! (I am assuming the only DRM that FCS uses is a serial key, and no DVD rip protection)
New in april with ssd as standard?
http://mobile.computerworld.com/dev...om/17565/collected_apples_busy_diary_for_2011
http://mobile.computerworld.com/dev...om/17565/collected_apples_busy_diary_for_2011
The money part I agree on
But, I for one would really like a Hard Copy of FCS. I guess you could copy it to a USB stick or hard drive and have it that way.
It´s not ideal, but guess we are heading in that direction.
This means it could take more than 24 hours to get it up and running as just the install process takes round 4 hours.
Second, you usually have a hard copy already that you have used to install FCS on your workstation, since you are allowed to keep a second copy on your laptop using the same serial number.
Very often the workstations are not connected to the internet for safty.
So this means now you have to buy a hard copy AND downloading it to get it running on 2 Macs
It won't be all or nothing. I think there'll be options with his you can purchase software. DVDs/USB/download.
Most software is small enough. How many MBP users will install FCS? And if you do, wouldnt you like to have the option of a dual drive system to work with? Better than mucking with a load of externals.
Most FCS users would have a workstation anyway, that is an iMac or MP - and they have no need to lose their ODDs.
Yes a dual drive MBP would be a dream situation. I hope they go that direction instead of even more battery time
maybe, but apple has never sold hardware for less price than the competition, why start now ? it might come has a "extra" you know, customization on the website, but 64 gb is unacceptable disk storage. what they could do, is put 10 gb of SSD space in those sticks they make, and we can put the os and some apps in there, then have a regular 512 gb disk.
but while they do that, they are certainly sacrificing SSD sales in general, and apple loves monopoly so i don't think they will do that either.
the reason why apple uses SSD on the macbook air is due to size restrictions.
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SilverOne
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Huh? No. You misunderstand. I'm not talking about SSDs in MBPs. I'm talking about bundling a 50-64GB thumbdrive with FCS for use on ODD-less computers.
I do believe the MBPs will get SSD storage, and I expect they will use both blade SSDs and large HDDs. I'm hoping for multiple blade slots (eg. 2) so RAID 0 is possible, and/or storage of up to 512GB at the moment, that can be upgraded and purchased from a cheap 3rd party, or with Sandforce controllers.
Intel have confirmed they are going to show off Sandy Bridge at the CES the 5th January.
Sandy Bridge
If Apple is going to use Sandy Bridge, I wonder what they will use for GPU as GPU and CPU is on the same chip. Does Intel have their own dedicated GPUs or will they use ATi for instance?
As for the ODD, Apple will not take it away. I am 99% sure of this, as a lot of people use it on SOME occasions. If they are to remove it, they know a lot of people will miss it and they would have to include a free external SuperDrive.
Sandy Bridge
If Apple is going to use Sandy Bridge, I wonder what they will use for GPU as GPU and CPU is on the same chip. Does Intel have their own dedicated GPUs or will they use ATi for instance?
As for the ODD, Apple will not take it away. I am 99% sure of this, as a lot of people use it on SOME occasions. If they are to remove it, they know a lot of people will miss it and they would have to include a free external SuperDrive.
Oh maybe SB will be out sooner than we think it might: http://www.techspot.com/news/41658-sandy-bridge-processors-on-sale-at-malaysian-retailers.html
It's like... already out?
It's like... already out?
Well, if the SBs graphics performance is really great then i see no need for dedicated. Intel has no dedicated, not that i know of.
Sandy Bridge graphic performance maybe satisfactory when speaking of 13 inch level graphic card, and outstanding when it comes to integrated graphics, it is no where near any discrete graphic card currently out there in the market, and it's performance is unacceptable for a 15 inch "pro" laptop, you can see relatively lame bench marks here :
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row/7
my only question is: what could apple lodge in the next generation of macbook pros, i'm talking 15 inch here since it's what i'm planing to get, now seeing how much gaming we're seeing lately, and by the fact that apple has been sliding in better cards in the last couple of years, i'd say maybe a 460m or a amd counterpart, being in my opinion the amd a better choice, which hasn't really been plagued by bad drivers, and by the pure fact that amd watt/performance is higher than nvidia by a significantly large amount, providing a longer battery life and less heat produced.
Anyone made a list yet? , i am in no position to give possible graphic cards due to the fact i am oblivious to the current market.
Best Regards
SilverOne
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row/7
my only question is: what could apple lodge in the next generation of macbook pros, i'm talking 15 inch here since it's what i'm planing to get, now seeing how much gaming we're seeing lately, and by the fact that apple has been sliding in better cards in the last couple of years, i'd say maybe a 460m or a amd counterpart, being in my opinion the amd a better choice, which hasn't really been plagued by bad drivers, and by the pure fact that amd watt/performance is higher than nvidia by a significantly large amount, providing a longer battery life and less heat produced.
Anyone made a list yet? , i am in no position to give possible graphic cards due to the fact i am oblivious to the current market.
Best Regards
SilverOne
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I think the time has come to drop the internal DVD drive. But, I don't see DVD drives disappearing - I just think an external drive would be much more convenient, and, two internal drive bays, one for SSD, one for high-capacity HDD, would be more useful than the DVD drive. To me.
Actually, when you added up all the essentials, the white MacBook in the fall of 2007 was a good value compared to the Windows competition at that moment. (Of course, that it is the only moment in history I can think of.)
Apple computers are often very price competitive when new models are released. It's just that 3 months later, all the competitors have dropped their price, and upped the specs, and Apple hasn't. 8 months later, we have the situation like we do now, where Apple computers don't compete on a pure hardware standpoint.
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460 is unlikely, as it has a very high power draw.
Likely decent GPUs are mostly from AMD:
The freely available 5830M
The newly announced 6550M
Or some presently unanounced 6600M or 6700M, ie. evolution of the 5830M: Twice as many cores as a 6500M, but clocked low for a TDP < 25W.
If the ODD drive goes, GPU TDP allocation might increase, but I expect Apple will got quad-core CPU first (+10 W) before maxing out the GPU to fill new cooling system capabilities.
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Sorry I was referring only to 13' MBPs and MBAs, not for the larger counterparts, just for the record.
Apple has been using Nvidia GPUs for quite some time. There have been rumors previously that they are definitely up to something, having stayed with Nvidia for all this while.
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NO I JUST WANT BETTER GRAPHICS AND QUAD CORE NOOOOOO
NO I JUST WANT BETTER GRAPHICS AND QUAD CORE NOOOOOO