Is that Apple's restriction? I was under impression that Bootcamp nowadays is just EFI boot of Windows...
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Is that Apple's restriction? I was under impression that Bootcamp nowadays is just EFI boot of Windows...
I do not agree that the GPU's are not up to the task. It might not match a GTX 1080Ti in gaming performance, but if developers spent a bit more time optimizing it will perform very well. It is just the developers do not want to optimize for those GPUs. Are you saying the Nintendo Switch has a better GPU in handheld mode? Absolutely not. But we have the 2016 version of Doom on that console. And it performs very well BTW. I prefer to play it on my GTX 1080 at 2560x1440 at 144fps.
If you are resolution chaser or need your game absolutely maxed out, obviously these won't be that good. Neither would consoles. I do not mind playing a game at 1600x900 at low-medium settings if the game is good (looking at you Breath of the Wild).
I was able to play Starcraft 2 on my 2010 MacBook Pro just fine when I was at college.
I was not aware of that
Yes, you are right of course, it all boils down to adapting to the system capabilities. What I was trying to say is that AAA game makers assume certain hardware capabilities for the main version and not many Apple machines have them. This performance discrepancy is one part what makes straightforward ports difficult. I doubt that the Nintendo Switch port was done by simply reducing resolution and effects. They probably had to reduce the mesh LOD, rewrite a bunch of shaders and remove some features. Its not just porting, its creating a quite different version of the program... I doubt that they would bother to go through that for Mac. Although Aspyr&Firaxis did port Civilisation 6 to iPad, and it apparently runs amazingly well. If only they would put that level of support to the Mac port
I was not aware of that
That is correct. The properly optimized for the hardware by not just simply lower resolution and effects. Sometimes optimization takes a bit more time.
And it shows that some developers do not care. There are many console ports that even my GTX 1080 struggles with because it is poorly optimized.
you can also do better then that, especially if you don't mind fan noice and crank the fans to max
I had the late 2014 with Iris pro and was playing at 900p medium and had around 30 fps...you suggest that i can go higher with the 555X ? higher in resolution ?
I don’t think it is that strange. I bought my 2017 pro for school, but I also like to play a few older games and am glad it has the power to do that as well. It wasn’t the primary reason for purchasing, but a nice perk.
I have not played around with setting much, but here is a fast overview of my experience with SC2.
The game is played vs an easy ai and had around 50 fps in most situations, in some fights I saw a drop to 30 fps and a little stutter. Do keep in mind I have not played around to much with settings to optimise it yet.
This is on a 2017 15" with 560 4GB VRAM
This is a very basic question, but I have some confusion regarding eGPU. I know you need an external monitor for them two work, but are they actually improving the graphics performance of the machine itself or just relieving the task of displaying the pixels to the monitor?
They (in a nutshell) are essentially connecting to the same bus as a GPU integrated into a machine would. Think of how much performance a GPU would get and subtract around 10-20% for the eGPU overhead. Which is... a lot of performance actually.
Over 60% of my steam library is unplayable and then it’s because it’s steam (Jade Empire is available in the Mac store but can’t be played on origin or steam) and not on the Mac store.
Most modern games that aren’t indie are not available on macOS . You’re a true gamer you play on Windows enough said. The games I play these days happen to be on macOS so idc. Even then there is a performance hit. No reason why KOTOR 2 shouldn’t be able to hit a steady 60 FPS on a 2017 15 MacBook Pro with the 560, 16GB of ram and the 2.9 ghz i7. Just not optimized.
The gpu is not that good. AMD offering are already inferior to Nividia as it is and the 560 isn’t even close to a 1060.
Solid machine and I’m almost all with you where the eGPU is destined to be “the hub” for peripherals, connection to my TV (also using Logi kB/mouse), and for charging.
I have a HUGE amount to learn and I’ll get a lot of use out of my first new Mac in over 20yrs ! Yes that long.
Best site to review sold or build yourself eGPUs with many Mac users submitting confíes and their findings.
Not sure if the Atiko eGPU case is a good start as it used to 2yrs ago.
https://egpu.io/
These are professional level GPUs. A NVIDIA Quadro is not a good card to be playing games on. A $700 GTX 1080 can beat the hell out of a $2,500 Quadro video card.
Ok? Cool? The AMD 560x is not a professional gpu nor was the Nividia 740M used when they had Nividia inside either . So in essence we’re comparing Apple to apples with the 560X and a Nividia 1060.
You’re correct. Never cared for AMD cards so never knew their professional cards. Either way take a comparable nividia pro gpu and it will get smashed either way. I was only looking on notebook check for numbers and it was comparing it to a 460. AMD just sucks tbh at the end of the day
No. This is where the NVIDIA fanatics are wrong. My 2010 Mac Pro came with a AMD Radeon HD 5870. Putting in a NVIDIA GTX 980 in the system made my workflow slower because Apple software is optimized for AMD.
Man why ppl gotta dis 16bit games? I grew up with 8-16bit games ... many I still love. Heck I still own a “Flynn’s Arcade” T-Shirt from disney as a hail to the original Tron movie when Tron Legacy debuted in theatres. I still play Karateka on iOS even works on my new iPhone X.
Fanatics ? They are better flat out. Numbers don’t lie. I will never own a Mac Pro because at that point I’ll just buy a windows machine
You know what I would like to see is a desktop monitor with a built in GPU. Plug in any laptop and go.
There was a rumor that Apple was going to do this before they killed their display line.