I’ve only had one 2018 fail, due to heat. Apparently you can’t run the GPU and CPU hard at the same time for long stretches of time or the heat can deform the butterfly just enough to make it fail.
I’ve only had one 2018 fail, due to heat. Apparently you can’t run the GPU and CPU hard at the same time for long stretches of time or the heat can deform the butterfly just enough to make it fail.
I think that the heat is the biggest issue. I had multiple 2016/17 MBP keyboard fails. But I tend to stress them out with Unity3D and Parallels VMs. But my 1 year old MB is running flawlessly, but that one is used only for learning, surfing, youtube, etc. And the keyboard is the same as when I got the device.
I am running Unity based simulations on my 2018 with no issues. Even have it connected to ML servers running on the MBP to determine next object action. Pegs CPUs cores at 100%, but runs hour after after hour.
Exactly this. It's hard for me to imagine living without macOS after 11 years, but Apple doesn't produce any portable but the ancient Air that wouldn't have those keybards. Moving to Windows might actually save me money, though. This MBP was supposed to be my only computer, so I went for 16/512 model. If I have to restore my Hackintosh to its foormer glory, I won't need a fast laptop, just one that will work with Scrivener, Photoshop, and InDesign.if Apple ever gets their **** together, I will come back, since I find Mac OS to be the best for my needs.
Picking up my FOURTH MBP on Wednesday. If it fails as well, I'm going to choose between X1 Carbon and XPS 13 9370 (perhaps also Yoga S730 if it's released within a month from now). I noticed the keys that "go" are the ones used most often – this time E, O, I, A, Space Bar. O is the worst, sometimes registering twice, sometimes not at all, and sometimes – how is this possible? – too late. So I end up with words such as "smoetimes" or "prbolems". That's...new. And no, they are not my typos.
I dont think its too early now....a lot of people has it for months and its clear more "reliable" because the 2016 versions, after just 2 weeks from release, a lot of people has a lot of issues
So, from that stand point, the answer is yes..
From time perspective, we have to wait another year i think
You're on X1 Carbon 6th gen, right @c0ppo?
I noticed the keys that "go" are the ones used most often – this time E, O, I, A, Space Bar.
PLEASE say you don't mean on the X1C...! I Want To Believe!For me it's brackets ([]{}) that go first
So I've been one of those really affected by the 2016-2017 keyboard failures on the MacBook pro, had numerous replacement keyboards (I'm very careful and clean with them), until the point that I gave up and sold my 2017 MacBook Pro. Waiting for the new keyboards instead!
With the new MacBook pro 2018 and keyboards out, Havent seen a single thread complaining about any defects on the 2018 MacBook pro keyboards, in terms of usability.
How is it so far, anyone experiencing any issues with them (sticky key, unresponsive key, repeated key input...) ?
PLEASE say you don't mean on the X1C...! I Want To Believe!
So I've been one of those really affected by the 2016-2017 keyboard failures on the MacBook pro, had numerous replacement keyboards (I'm very careful and clean with them), until the point that I gave up and sold my 2017 MacBook Pro. Waiting for the new keyboards instead!
With the new MacBook pro 2018 and keyboards out, Havent seen a single thread complaining about any defects on the 2018 MacBook pro keyboards, in terms of usability.
How is it so far, anyone experiencing any issues with them (sticky key, unresponsive key, repeated key input...) ?
Nope. Mine was broken out-of-the-box (double presses on several keys). Maxed-out 13" CTO with non-default keyboard for my country (i. e. it's as custom as it can get) built mid-September straight from China.To those who had their keyboard break: Did it happen after some intensive cpu/gpu use?
Not enough data to make this or opposite conclusion.Is there a difference in build quality between the various base models for either 13 or 15" being sold in store or online vs. customized configurations?
Nope. Long and intensive writing sessions, but Scrivener doesn't exactly max out the cpu/gpu. I used Reason, Photoshop, InDesign in those few weeks I had the laptop, but not much as I'm on a deadline that I am now going to miss.To those who had their keyboard break: Did it happen after some intensive cpu/gpu use?
Not enough data to make this or opposite conclusion.
Well, for example my acquaintance had zero problems. I asked him and he sincerely said this.its weird how some people have zero problems and then others are on their fourth replacement machine. I guess someone who is having a sting of bad machines is likely to post/rant to a forum about it. anyhow, it seems a bit soon to determine whether the new keyboards will solve the problems in the long run. time will tell. anytime there is a redesign there are going to be glitches. i had the 2012 redesign and that thing was plagued with no end of screen problems and gpu crashes. eventually by 2015 they had all the glitches worked out and then they dropped a redesign and the process starts again. if you need a really reliable mac buy 2015 at least for another year until they get the kinks worked out. i have a 2016 and it has had a keyboard replacement and logic board replacement. there are many things i like about the machine but it is not reliable.
AFAIK no. Logically this is the way it should be - keyboard is the same for base and CTO models and we're quite sure the problem is in the keyboard itself, not in the process of putting different components together (which might differ for base and CTO). On the other hand QA/QC might differ as well.Excluding 2018 models, has there been a trend for past base models vs. built to orders in reliability?
I had the 2012 redesign and that thing was plagued with no end of screen problems and gpu crashes. eventually by 2015 they had all the glitches worked out and then they dropped a redesign and the process starts again. if you need a really reliable mac buy 2015 at least for another year until they get the kinks worked out. i have a 2016 and it has had a keyboard replacement and logic board replacement. there are many things i like about the machine but it is not reliable.
This is the third generation of those keyboards... the one we all hoped would solve the problems!it seems a bit soon to determine whether the new keyboards will solve the problems in the long run. time will tell. anytime there is a redesign there are going to be glitches.
I think there *is* a chance some batches are faulty and some aren't. Like people talking about the kernel panics or coil whine - I haven't experienced any of that. But then those people seem to have functioning keyboards, and I will be giving Apple the fourth and last chance, receiving my fourth MBP tomorrow... Who knows, maybe I'll get the T2 kernel panic feature this time?its weird how some people have zero problems and then others are on their fourth replacement machine
This is the third generation of those keyboards... the one we all hoped would solve the problems!
I think there *is* a chance some batches are faulty and some aren't. Like people talking about the kernel panics or coil whine - I haven't experienced any of that. But then those people seem to have functioning keyboards, and I will be giving Apple the fourth and last chance, receiving my fourth MBP tomorrow... Who knows, maybe I'll get the T2 kernel panic feature this time?