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MacBook Pro 2018 Keyboards - Reliable?
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Maybe Geniuses got it and reported to Tim Cook?!It is possible you were not able to use the T2 panic feature cause your laptop spent more time in the shop than with you
The latest iteration of MBP 2018 found its way here, I will be reporting how long it takes until the keyboard fails again... oops, damn you, autocorrect! About how amazing it is.
I just came here to check on accounts of keyboard failures on the 2018 as I’m nearing the cutoff for being able to add AppleCare.
I’m a little nervous even though mine hasn’t had any problems yet because I had a 2016 that was fine for the first 9 months, then needed 3 keyboard replacements in the subsequent 9 months before I caved in and upgraded just to try to avoid further keyboard issues. That upgrade ended up costing me 2 grand which was unpleasant.
So, do I drop the $379 as a hedge against future keyboard failures or just wing it and hope it’s been resolved? The 2018 is not included in the keyboard replacement program (yet).
I’m a little nervous even though mine hasn’t had any problems yet because I had a 2016 that was fine for the first 9 months, then needed 3 keyboard replacements in the subsequent 9 months before I caved in and upgraded just to try to avoid further keyboard issues. That upgrade ended up costing me 2 grand which was unpleasant.
So, do I drop the $379 as a hedge against future keyboard failures or just wing it and hope it’s been resolved? The 2018 is not included in the keyboard replacement program (yet).
AppleCare is no longer a matter of choice. It is mandatory in my opinion; especially with these soldered machines
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"I just came here to check on accounts of keyboard failures on the 2018 as I’m nearing the cutoff for being able to add AppleCare."
It is unknown yet as to how much better the 2018 design keyboard is compared to the 2016/17 keyboards. Not enough "time in the field" yet.
My -guess- is that -- if the 2018 keyboard starts to experience an unusually high number of failures -- that Apple will just "roll the 2018's" into the existing keyboard replacement program. But that's only a guess.
"I just came here to check on accounts of keyboard failures on the 2018 as I’m nearing the cutoff for being able to add AppleCare."
It is unknown yet as to how much better the 2018 design keyboard is compared to the 2016/17 keyboards. Not enough "time in the field" yet.
My -guess- is that -- if the 2018 keyboard starts to experience an unusually high number of failures -- that Apple will just "roll the 2018's" into the existing keyboard replacement program. But that's only a guess.
After the previous three keyboards failing on me I feel a bit sick at the thought of buying Applecare in addition to already having a €2989 (I upgraded to 1TB to see if a different model works better) computer that's so unreliable. If I'm going to use it for 3 weeks, then return it to Apple for 3 weeks, then repeat this for three years...I will have to learn to stop worrying and love the Windows.
Got the 2018 15” base model about 60 days ago and NO keyboard issues at all.
Also, I love the feel and sound of the gen 3. Have owned both gen 1 and gen 2 in 12” MacBooks and this is nicer.
Also, I love the feel and sound of the gen 3. Have owned both gen 1 and gen 2 in 12” MacBooks and this is nicer.
Not for the 2018 model. Yet. Although perhaps once I get through a hundred or so of them before the end of the year they'll start one just for me
(Latest news: four days in and the keyboard still works! It's like magic, only more expensive.)
I finally put in an order for a silver 15" after testing out the 13" Pro and the Surface Laptop 2. The 15" is what I've been accustomed to for over a decade and it's still my favourite machine on the market for a variety of reasons. Hoping for a good piece!
I've tested over 10 of these at various stores quite extensively with regards to the keyboard and there definitely is some variation. There were 2 or 3 that were rather flat and without a good 'recoil' coming from the bottom, which really messed me up and gave me constant mistakes. Absolutely no rhythm. I'm not sure if that's unit to unit variation or if it's a result of that keyboard eventually becoming like that. I'd like to think it's unit to unit variation rather than the keys transforming since at least all the preferred keyboards and bad keyboards were consistent across all their keys. If this was a transformational thing, you would expect for some keys to behave differently than others within the same keyboard.
Fingers crossed!
I've tested over 10 of these at various stores quite extensively with regards to the keyboard and there definitely is some variation. There were 2 or 3 that were rather flat and without a good 'recoil' coming from the bottom, which really messed me up and gave me constant mistakes. Absolutely no rhythm. I'm not sure if that's unit to unit variation or if it's a result of that keyboard eventually becoming like that. I'd like to think it's unit to unit variation rather than the keys transforming since at least all the preferred keyboards and bad keyboards were consistent across all their keys. If this was a transformational thing, you would expect for some keys to behave differently than others within the same keyboard.
Fingers crossed!
I am on my 4th 2018 MBP all 4 have gone back for sticky keeeys. Oh, and seee that? This one ewill be going back as well.
A lot of "me too" replies in that thread. Some having the repeating key problems, some having the no input issues as I was having.
This response is classic though "I don't know either that or my keyboard usage has evolved but it mostly doesn't repeat anymore.... As long as the Mac doesn't start to heat up."
In short, don't use your Mac and all will be fine
A lot of "me too" replies in that thread. Some having the repeating key problems, some having the no input issues as I was having.
This response is classic though "I don't know either that or my keyboard usage has evolved but it mostly doesn't repeat anymore.... As long as the Mac doesn't start to heat up."
In short, don't use your Mac and all will be fine
Simply a joke at this stage and exemplifies Apples arrogance. Subjectively terrible to type on, objectively unreliable. These keyboards were designed first and foremost to allow Apple to deliver thinner a classis to market, not improve the typing experience.
If such extremely low throw keyboards were ergonomically beneficial, offered greater accuracy & speed professional typists would have been using them for years, they don't and for good reason. Apple should go out and purchase a few ThinkPad's even a Surface Book, dissect the keyboards and come up with a new keyboard that's designed for the usage scenario's it's sales and marketing people keep cooking up. If that then results in the MBP being a fraction of an inch thicker so be it, Pro my Arse...
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Mentioned in the other thread that the 2018 MBP I bought in August started having issues in October with the space bar giving me double spaces. Apple opted to just give me a new laptop instead of repairing my old one. Considering this is the first MBP I've bought sine the mid 2010 model I had, I'm not too enthusiastic about it lasting as long as that one did. Luckily, I guess I can purchase AC+ now since I didn't for my original.
Can at least say the typing experience isn't really ideal, but I'm also using a mechanical keyboard on my desktop so that may be hurting that a bit.
Can at least say the typing experience isn't really ideal, but I'm also using a mechanical keyboard on my desktop so that may be hurting that a bit.
The unreliable nature of the keyboard is what made me sell my MBP 2016 at a staggering loss, for peace of mind. Now I am using my MBP 2011 15" at the desk, and there is peace of mind. When the GPU blows off, I will get a Windows laptop or a secondhand MacBook (Pro) to tide me over while the keyboard is being reassessed.
Three whole months, and for my use at the desk, the old computer is working just fine. Not missing the MBP 2016 at all, so long as I am tied to the desk.
Three whole months, and for my use at the desk, the old computer is working just fine. Not missing the MBP 2016 at all, so long as I am tied to the desk.
I was also affected and had to return my 2017 MBPro.
My 2018 has been perfect. Not a single issue.
What if instead of dropping $379 on the keyboard we just sell the machine when warranty is up? You will lose say $450, but you get an updated machine with a warranty.
I have a feeling we are only seeing the beginning of the keyboard problems. Rather than truly fix the issue, I think Apple delayed the inevitable with the keyboard condoms. So now they aren't failing as quickly, but the failures are beginning to roll in. Kind of like standing under a water-resistant tarp in a rainstorm. It will keep you dry longer than no-tarp, but once the water starts to leak through, your gonna get wet.