MacBook Pro Assemblers in China Unlikely to Return to Pre-Lockdown Production Levels Before July

AF_APPLETALK said:
The pfizer vaccines have 12% efficacy for the first seven days, then it drops to below 1% effective. Which is to say, that ours are no better. Their own words, in their own documents, that they tried hiding for 75 years.

Hell, the FDA essentially just told people to not take the J&J vaccine because of the blood clotting issues. You've got to be absolutely kidding me if you think what they gave us is much better than what they gave them.
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Please troll your whack vaccine conspiracy theories elsewhere.

Not only are you misstating effectiveness of the vaccines, you are misstating the virtually non-existent blood clotting issues that were investigated thoroughly.
 
Kierkegaarden said:
The new MBP was released less than 7 months ago. What exactly did you order?
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He waited 15 years while MBPs were the best laptops on the planet (I moved from Dell to MBP about 9 years ago because they were so far superior), and now finally ordered one with gold coating and platinum trim and is getting antsy the diamond function keys are backordered.
 
SlaveToSwift said:
In three years the CHIPS act will be the complete disaster. There is so much production capacity on the way that Intel and TSMC will be forced to slash prices just to get business. This is what always happens in cyclical industries like semiconductors, it takes so long to get capacity online that they always undershoot or overshoot actual demand.
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I don‘t know how you could quantify it will be a disaster. I honestly don’t see them slashing prices all that much. Chips are in everything. There is so much demand for them I doubt we’ll ever see that big of a surplus to see them drastically drop prices. Sure they will have to adjust, I could see that but it won’t be enough to seriously hurt their bottom lines.
 
What is taking so long? Just flip the switch and get these factories back to 100% instantly. What’s with this gradual return? Let’s GOOOOOO!!!
 
Mydel said:
Lucky you :) I ordered MBP 16 M1Max and 64GB in December. Estimated delivery 23rd of May
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Mine is the same configuration as yours - 2 Tb SSD.
Lucky or not will depend whether it maintains the timelines.
Was your delivery timelines changed multiple times? How many times?
 
Can’t machines in US factories replace these assemblers in China and deliver finished products even less than with a Chinese labor force? We are not in the stone page.
 
Kierkegaarden said:
They cannot just pick up and move operations somewhere else. The expertise in building these products happens to be concentrated in specific areas of China. Why is there only one Silicon Valley? For the same reason. Sure, you will find pockets that can try to replicate the diversity of talent in these areas, but not at the scale that Apple needs.
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Wouldn’t expect them to just pick up and move, that’s not what I said. And they go to China because of the cheap labor, not because of the expertise.
 
O oracles of Macrumors, lend me your wisdom.

Do Macbook Pro production delays make it less likely to see new Macbook Airs before fall?

I've got money set aside for an M2 Air, but don't want to wait forever.
 
Mydel said:
Lucky you :) I ordered MBP 16 M1Max and 64GB in December. Estimated delivery 23rd of May
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Ouch. I wonder if the 64 GB is extra difficult somehow. I ordered a 16" M1Max / 64GB / 2TB at the very end of January and got it in 8 weeks (late March)
 
mikethemartian said:
This would be a great time for the return of Heathkit. Don’t want to wait forever to get your device? Build it yourself!
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Did not expect to run across a Heathkit reference today. They were awesome. Unfortunately, you can only build it yourself if you can get all the parts, and some of those parts are subject to shortages.
 
mikethemartian said:
I thought supply chain management was supposed to be Tim Cook’s area of expertise.
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He is pretty good at it. If you were a car repair expert, and someone put a car in a car crusher and flattened it, and handed it to you and said, "well, you're the expert, fix it", you'd probably find that to be... difficult. Tim Cook did extremely well with supply chains that had various hiccups here and there. That supply chain has been smashed. All sorts of things are broken. Pretty much the only way to have gotten through this with no bad effects would be to maintain a 2+ year supply of every single part you need. Which clearly isn't practical, given that new models come out more often than that.
 
Blackstick said:
Bunch of dummies in China. Covid is endemic now. Like stomach viruses on cruise ships. It's going to happen periodically.

Going for 0% infected is comical. Just get your labor force vaccinated and it's not a big deal.
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I'm Chinese and I know better what's going on. We all got our third shot of the vaccine.The Chinese government is simply trying to control the spread of the virus as much as possible. Viruses mutate very quickly.
 
AF_APPLETALK said:
READ: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...-janssen-covid-19-vaccine-certain-individuals
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It’s funny how you conspiracy morons always pivot to some other pointless diversion when you are caught spreading BS.

Janssen is a minor COVID vaccine. Out of 14 million injections they saw 54 thrombosis cases, and only 8 deaths. By contrast, 14 million people average about 14,000 thrombosis cases a year, about 480 per the two week period they studied.

You should be far more worried about dying of COVID, or heart attacks or a thousand other things than COVID vaccines.
 
SlaveToSwift said:
It’s funny how you conspiracy morons always pivot to some other pointless diversion when you are caught spreading BS.

Janssen is a minor COVID vaccine. Out of 14 million injections they saw 54 thrombosis cases, and only 8 deaths. By contrast, 14 million people average about 14,000 thrombosis cases a year, about 480 per the two week period they studied.

You should be far more worried about dying of COVID, or heart attacks or a thousand other things than COVID vaccines.
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Where do you get off calling J&J a "minor vaccine?" It was promoted as one of the vanguard options to the American public, especially during the earlier period of the rollout. After all, it was "Safe and Effective" ...until it wasn't, but "The Science" changes, I guess. It's just too bad you already injected yourself with the toxins - whoops!

I should be worried about dying from covid? The disease that has an approximately 99.something% survival rate? Lol. Besides, I already had it, passed to me by family members who were ill despite being "fully" moderna vax'd. I can tell you that the last flu that I had was 20x worse than covid.

I'm going to go ahead and ignore your figures since you won't address mine, as well as chose to deride me, cool? (mod come look he's calling me names)

But I'm going to again assert that you're wrong, and time is going to prove you wrong. Enjoy your smug position while it lasts - The Science will change even more and eventually it'll be unavoidable, even for you. I promise you that after the beating I have taken trying to get people to use common sense and not do stupid things to their bodies, I'm going to be so ruthless about making people like you feel like absolute crap for having enabled this nightmare. ;)
 
sunilbhaskar said:
Mine is the same configuration as yours - 2 Tb SSD.
Lucky or not will depend whether it maintains the timelines.
Was your delivery timelines changed multiple times? How many times?
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It changed once. Preliminary delivery was scheduled by the last week of march but after that it was pushed to 23 of May. We will see this week I guess..
 
SlaveToSwift said:
I ordered my MBP 16 M1 Max in January, got it within 5 weeks. Things are much easier if you don't need 64 Gb;)
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Im sure but I still run my 2013 MBP that is on the last leg. I preffer to buy only every 5/8 years as moving all of my stuff takes days.
 
citysnaps said:
Curious...how much more? Post a percentage more that you'll gladly pay.
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I understand what, I think, you are getting at here and this conversation eventually leads into a very high level discussion about general economic reform.

I think Netflix is a perfect example. The company is fine, it’s healthy, it prints money; but it has sold what it sells to everyone who would ever consider buying it. Wall Street gets focused on “growth” and forces bad business decisions which lead to decline.

If Apple “not doing it for the money” is true and we also maturely consider Apple’s responsibility to share holders it becomes evident that if it weren’t for Wall Street’s Fugazi “of growth,” Apple could move production here to the US, create quite a few well paying jobs and absorb a hit on their absolutely insane margins.

It’s going to tank us (United States) hard at some point. I don’t care if the most innovative ideas the world has ever seen are coming out of my backyard, if I can’t physically produce them I’m essentially left with a dream.

Super complicated problem.
 
CoolSpot said:
O oracles of Macrumors, lend me your wisdom.

Do Macbook Pro production delays make it less likely to see new Macbook Airs before fall?

I've got money set aside for an M2 Air, but don't want to wait forever.
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I’d say yes. Delays will impact timelines on all upcoming laptop releases.
 
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