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I'm curious now. How would it look if it were to you? Can you please make a better buyers guide? :)

I'm sure alot of us would like to see you improved buyers guide :)

I would look at it from the following perspectives:

1) Strength of sales of the product independent of time between of upgrades,

2) Strength of the original design compared to competitors and industry trends,

3) Incursion of competitors to Marketshare,

4) Economic forecasts for the upcoming 6 to 18 month period,

5) Company stock price, and profit margin,

6) R&D allocation per product category and related product category performance forecasts.

Lots of technical stuff and jargon, I know. But working around executives in Book Publishing, software engineering and product development has ingrained these concepts into my skull.

The MBP is strong in #'s 1 and 2 and certainly adds to #5 (profits) currently. Given a reduced economic forecast (#4) and #6 forcing R&D into areas like iPhone, iPod, MacBook Air and TV, I predict we'll be waiting another 6 to 9 months on a MacBook Pro significant redesign (you will see an insignificant Penryn bump next month to three).

Just my perspective: I think the MacRumors Buyers guide is pretty amateur when it comes to predictions and only looks at "time." A very poor indicator.

I wish I had the time to create a new buyers guide: I just trust the one inside me -- it has proven very accurate last 10 years -- unfortunately it benefits the few.

Dante
 
Honestly, even if it is updated and you get one now, you would not be "wasting" your money. Far from it. That is just a stupid statement.
 
Yes because a .2ghz improvement would REALLY make a huge difference right?:rolleyes:

Penryn is geared towards energy efficiency. That's the main advantage: increased battery life, reduced heat.

And there's SSE4 and various other improvements. Counting clockspeed really isn't all that helpful, unless you're in marketing.
 
Honestly, even if it is updated and you get one now, you would not be "wasting" your money. Far from it. That is just a stupid statement.

IMHO, Apple ][s should still go for $1200. If it was worth it then, it still is now. The value of technology never decreases!
 
Shall I return it and wait?

I have just bought a 2.6 custom 17" glossy hi MBP in plastic and it is on my desk. It is so tempting to open it and start working on it but I am debating on returning for credit and holding out for the new MBP. Looking at the pros and cons I am a dead 50/50 spot. Do you think the penyrn will be less of a heat warmer than the current laptop? Do you think it will have a faster booting mechanism as people thought? Will there be a noticable difference when the next gen mbp come out?:)
JJ
 
I have just bought a 2.6 custom 17" glossy hi MBP in plastic and it is on my desk. It is so tempting to open it and start working on it but I am debating on returning for credit and holding out for the new MBP. Looking at the pros and cons I am a dead 50/50 spot. Do you think the penyrn will be less of a heat warmer than the current laptop? Do you think it will have a faster booting mechanism as people thought? Will there be a noticable difference when the next gen mbp come out?:)
JJ

same dilemma man, yet i would hve to eat the restocking fees cuz im using it now lol (and its AWESOME btw, i just like the BEST for the same price). kinda leaning torward bringing it back though. i'd like to jump on with all the people desperately waiting for its release, looking at insider and this forum every day haha..sounds fun. then buy it instantly

I'll sell you my Amiga 1200 for ... ugh 1200? It's got a 40MB HD.

*hasn't been started since 1993 (ish) been sitting in a box in my garage. Games included!

haha
 
I have just bought a 2.6 custom 17" glossy hi MBP in plastic and it is on my desk. It is so tempting to open it and start working on it but I am debating on returning for credit and holding out for the new MBP. Looking at the pros and cons I am a dead 50/50 spot. Do you think the penyrn will be less of a heat warmer than the current laptop? Do you think it will have a faster booting mechanism as people thought? Will there be a noticable difference when the next gen mbp come out?:)
JJ

I have this exact same BTO machine except in Matte.

I am using it and loving it.

The Penryn bump is a bit less hot and provides 20 to 30 minutes more battery life from what I've read, but speed increase is not noticeable.

I am using mine and loving it with no regrets.

I will sell it when Apple does a significant case redesign which I believe will happen late next fall.

I could be wrong.
 
228 days since update (Average = 186)

I could understand the ZOMG BUY NOW mentality if it did not contradict all reason and the facts.

Don't waste your money, folks. Buying now is like picking the carton of old milk at the grocery store because you're too impatient to wait a few minutes for a restock. It's stupid and nonsensical!

DON'T BUY A MACBOOK PRO NOW!

I bought one two days after the keynote speech when I saw that the MBP wasn't updated. I got it yesterday. Its a great machine, hardly a waste of money as you put it. Even if the MBP gets updated tomorrow, mine will still do everything I need or want to do.
 
Yeah, that buyer's guide has said the same thing for two months or longer ;)

I just ordered one and I am going to ENJOY IT! A bump to penryn would have absolutely no impact on my daily use of this machine.

Ditto, ordered mine. Should be in tomorrow.
 
when do you guys think the new one will come out? School started today and I am going to really need one this semester.
uuugh!
I'd get the macbook or air, but I can't stand the small screen. It hurts my eyes to focus!
 
when do you guys think the new one will come out? School started today and I am going to really need one this semester.
uuugh!

You could be waiting until May. Read my sig; no matter how long you wait, it's not going to be the newest thing on the market for very long.

I'd get the macbook or air, but I can't stand the small screen. It hurts my eyes to focus!

The resolution of the MBP is the same as that of the MB; there's just more to look at in the MBP. But the fonts aren't going to be any easier to read.
 
You could be waiting until May. Read my sig; no matter how long you wait, it's not going to be the newest thing on the market for very long.



The resolution of the MBP is the same as that of the MB; there's just more to look at in the MBP. But the fonts aren't going to be any easier to read.

Yes true.
I could always make the font bigger, but it won't fit well on the screen which is why I would prefer a 15'.
My last laptop was a 15.4-I tried a friends macbook and for me personally there was a big difference.
My last laptop was a Sony. It died after a year and I didn't get the warranty. Smart eh?
This will be my first apple laptop.
 
Is there a nifty online guide that tells me when to buy food? I'd sure hate to have something tastier come on to the market right after dinner some night.
;)

I think I'll just wait.
 
If you need one, buy one. If you want one, wait if you care about having the newest product, or buy one if you don't. The current machines are amazing, better than anything in their class of computers. They may not have a magnetic latch, the newest developing processor, etc., but is it worth waiting around for maybe months to get one?

I, personally, am waiting. I'd like to have the latest and greatest machine, and I don't need one. I already have a computer that works just fine, and so does everyone else posting questions about the time of the next update.
 
Is there a nifty online guide that tells me when to buy food? I'd sure hate to have something tastier come on to the market right after dinner some night.

That's a pretty good analogy. You know, I go computer shopping every weekend and usually get through three a day. Unless I'm restless, in which case I might use a PDA in the early to mid afternoon.

And I also spend upwards of $3000 on every meal.
 
That's a pretty good analogy. You know, I go computer shopping every weekend and usually get through three a day. Unless I've done a lot of exercise, I might use PDAs between meals.
If you get food poisoning, you have to deal with it for a day, maybe two. A broken computer can cause a whole lot more trouble than an upset stomach, so choosing the right computer and when to buy it will effect one's life a whole lot more than figuring out when the store-bought tomatoes are ripest.
 
My biggest concern is the graphics card. What could be expect for that?

well thats some thing that interests me as well i think that it could be a GeForce 8800M GTS since apple never goes for the fastest and the ATI cards are no option speed wise compaired to a NVIDIA. in speed this doesnt mean alot since the Geforce8Mobile chips arent that fast.

think whit the Wolfdale MBP (probably some where Jully/August) that the new fast Geforce9 Mobile chips are done from Nvidia this will be WAY FASTER.

even a Geforce7850GTX Mobile is faster than the fastest Gforce8M series.

But we will see.

iam buying one and if the new ones come out ill just sell my macbook.
 
If you get food poisoning, you have to deal with it for a day, maybe two. A broken computer can cause a whole lot more trouble than an upset stomach, so choosing the right computer and when to buy it will effect one's life a whole lot more than figuring out when the store-bought tomatoes are ripest.

/sarcasm
 
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