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Actually the real reason fro the delay times is because of hardware bug in the nvidia graphics card and the way it interacts with the MacBook motherboard. every single 2.2ghz & 2.4ghz santa rosa MacBook Pro has a serious hardware issue that causes all displays requiring dual-link DVI to show "twinkling stars, small flashing green pixels, and flashing lines".

The problem only starts after the machine is connected to this type of display for at least 20 minutes, and continues to become gradually worse. Un-plugging the DVI cable for a few minutes can cause the MacBook Pro graphic card to reset and lessing the problem.

This was the reason for the reason EFI 1.3 Update. Apple is trying to mask the hardware problem but so far the EFI update only succeeds in slightly lessing the problem.

Be aware that if you are buying a new MacBook Pro today you will be buying a machine with a HARDWARE defect. Apple is going to great lengths to cover the issue up. There is a huge thread on there site (16,000+) about it, and 3 others that have now been deleted.

I can reproduce the bug on any dual-link DVI (Dell, Apple 30") with ANY of the new MacBook Pros.

I spoke directly with an Apple engineer and friend of mine, and he said that it's a serious hardware bug, that might not be able to be fixed in the thousands, and thousands of models that have already shipped but they are trying to quietly sell all the ones they have and DO have new ones on the way to manufacturing. I'd really appreciate it if MacRumors would cover this story, as it needs major attention.

I urgently second the request for a link to this "(16,000+) thread on the apple site".

or any others who can confirm this hardware issue (with or without the EFI 1.3 Update).

i.e after waiting so long for apple to ship this laptop, I don't want to empty my bank account for a laptop that will have to go back to the supplier for 3 more months.

I can't wait much longer laptopless
 
I urgently second the request for a link to this "(16,000+) thread on the apple site".

No response from that poster after multiple questions from different people. I call BS. I checked out Apples Forum, didn't see any 16,000+ view/post threads.
 
So anyone going to phone up and ask about the long order times? To many people who use these laptops, time is money. Also, I was only told after I had provided my payment details on the phone about the delay.

*looks at UK consumer laws*

edit: * The seller must give you clear prior information about the goods or services, including:
* 1. A clear description of the goods or services
* 2. The supplier's contact details
* 3. Details of cost and payment, including taxes
* 4. Delivery arrangements, or date for service to be carried out
* 5. Cancellation rights

Unless it is a personalised good, but I would hardly call an Apple laptop personalised.
 
down in Oz

i ordered a CTO 15' macbook pro with the 7200rpm hard-drive option on the 27th of June from NextByte, an Australian Apple Reseller. almost 1 month now and i have still not received my laptop :confused:

after a few phone calls the people working at the store said that apple told them of a shortage of the 7200rpm harddrives and that all stock has run out (of the 160gb 7200rpm hard-drives), adding a 2week wait to the order, he also said that there is currently a backorder of 1,500 15' macbook pros that have not been received in Australia. he said apple estimated a 2week wait for shipment to Aus (although thier website says 7-10 days). unfortunately they still can't give me an ETA as the order is still listed as "in process" :mad:

NextByte have apparently not yet recieved ANY 15' macbook pro's even this far after its release...

seems like apple arn't focusing on resellers. sigh... :(
 
Final came

I ordered a new baseline 15" macbook pro on the 13th of June and am still waiting for it to arrive.
Apple is completely incompetent, 6 WEEKS is fare too long to wait for a laptop.
At least now i have some idea that I'm not the only one going through this pain.

:mad:SCREW THE ENVIRONMENT, I WANT MY LAPTOP! :D

My Mac Finally came on the 23rd July, Haven't had any problems so fare with it.
I guess Good things come for those who wait
 
I wonder if Apple will be offering the Hitachi 200 gig 7200 rpm drive, or the Western Digital 250 gig 5400 rpm drive, anytime soon.
 
I wonder if Apple will be offering the Hitachi 200 gig 7200 rpm drive, or the Western Digital 250 gig 5400 rpm drive, anytime soon.


For us macbook owners we don't need to worry what apple does on that front. Aside from the massive expense of Apple options, and the length of time BTO configs take to build and arrive, the HD is user replaceable. The MBP should be the same by rights but isn't.
 
For us macbook owners we don't need to worry what apple does on that front. Aside from the massive expense of Apple options, and the length of time BTO configs take to build and arrive, the HD is user replaceable. The MBP should be the same by rights but isn't.

Yes, that's right. That's one really great thing with the Macbook. I was a little surprised Apple didn't redesign the MBP to allow user replaceable hard drives with this SR revision.
 
Have had my maxed out MBP15 for 3 weeks...

... and the LED display is insurmountable. I only notice a yellow tint if I look off angle. Direct on viewing the display is perfect. I expect no more from a modern TFT.

On wakeup or boot while cold, display is ready to go, immediately... no VFL stabilization time.

I couldn't ask for a better display. I'm sure LED-backlit displays will improve, but the one on this unit isn't dissappointing me.
 
still waiting...

I ordered my MBP on July 16th and have just had my "ship by" date pushed from July 30th to August 14th. I called apple who told me that it will ship by my ship date. I don't think he was happy with me when I told him that I didn't believe him since my last ship date changed...

I am considering canceling my order and waiting until 10.5 comes out before buying.
 
Shipping date

I ordered my MBP on July 16th and have just had my "ship by" date pushed from July 30th to August 14th. I called apple who told me that it will ship by my ship date. I don't think he was happy with me when I told him that I didn't believe him since my last ship date changed...

I'm in similar boat, but ordered through academic department channels in late June, and now hear that expected ship-date is August 15. Until I read this thread, all I had heard was 'glass shortage.'

I guess I am most curious as to why Apple still advertises a 7-10 day shipping period if you build one on the web-site.

Frustrating since I needed my new laptop, so my old G4 could be used for video by one of the 4 students working for me this summer. At this rate, they will be back in school by the time I get it.
 
I'm in similar boat, but ordered through academic department channels in late June, and now hear that expected ship-date is August 15. Until I read this thread, all I had heard was 'glass shortage.'

I guess I am most curious as to why Apple still advertises a 7-10 day shipping period if you build one on the web-site.

Frustrating since I needed my new laptop, so my old G4 could be used for video by one of the 4 students working for me this summer. At this rate, they will be back in school by the time I get it.

Actually, mine too was ordered through an academic reseller. I ordered mine at a time that I thought I would have enough time to figure out the OS before school starts, but it looks like I will not have that chance.

I had mentioned to the apple rep. my irritation with the 7-10 day shipping estimation on the website, even though it is clearly taking much longer. He didn't seem to be bothered by that.

I am making the switch to apple after a long history with linux and windows, and am really reconsidering my decision after my experience with Apple.
 
Actually, mine too was ordered through an academic reseller. I ordered mine at a time that I thought I would have enough time to figure out the OS before school starts, but it looks like I will not have that chance.

I had mentioned to the apple rep. my irritation with the 7-10 day shipping estimation on the website, even though it is clearly taking much longer. He didn't seem to be bothered by that.

I am making the switch to apple after a long history with linux and windows, and am really reconsidering my decision after my experience with Apple.

Finally received mine. I just did the $9.95 upgrade for ilife8.
 
I urgently second the request for a link to this "(16,000+) thread on the apple site".

or any others who can confirm this hardware issue (with or without the EFI 1.3 Update).

i.e after waiting so long for apple to ship this laptop, I don't want to empty my bank account for a laptop that will have to go back to the supplier for 3 more months.

I can't wait much longer laptopless

Now I am worried about it too.

Since I don't have a 30" ACD how do I convince Apple to replace my machine? I want a new machine for free!
 
Well I hope there's more in then simply the iLife update... Have been waiting almost 2 months now for my standard 2.2 MBP LED. It really kinda sucks as my PB is slowly getting more and more buggy by the hour.

Wondering, wasn't there a time when buyers of new Macs got a free update to the next operating system if it was released only little time later? Is that still a valid offer?? Would ease the pain at least a little bit...
 
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