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Another user chiming in with problems. :(

MacBook5,5 (2.53GHz 13' MBP) with EFI 1.7 installed from the factory.

Bought and installed a brand new 60GB OCZ Vertex Turbo SSD. Thing hangs like crazy and usually causes the machine to freeze every hour or so. Can't complete installs of large things like XP inside of VMWare Fusion. Bootcamp installations also fail miserably, returning disk errors.

Any suggestions? Can't return the drive (replacement only from Newegg) and can't use it in my MBP as it sits. Should I try and get Apple to replace the laptop or try downgrading the EFI firmware?
 
Another user chiming in with problems. :(

MacBook5,5 (2.53GHz 13' MBP) with EFI 1.7 installed from the factory.

Bought and installed a brand new 60GB OCZ Vertex Turbo SSD. Thing hangs like crazy and usually causes the machine to freeze every hour or so. Can't complete installs of large things like XP inside of VMWare Fusion. Bootcamp installations also fail miserably, returning disk errors.

Any suggestions? Can't return the drive (replacement only from Newegg) and can't use it in my MBP as it sits. Should I try and get Apple to replace the laptop or try downgrading the EFI firmware?

Downgrading should hopefully make it usable, although you may not get the best speeds from it, which sucks balls!
 
So...I reverted back to the 1.6 firmware, and still have the problem. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm on a WD 500GB Scorpio drive. Has anyone found any third party hard drives, 500GB preferably, that AREN'T affected by the firmware issues?! I'm about to go back to my whitebook and get a refund on this piece of ****.
 
I thought a previous poster said that you could NOT down grade the firmware?

Just mentioning this

You can definitely revert the firmware to EFI version 1.6. The best bet is to find an Apple store that can do it, but not every store is aware of this. An alternative is to look in this thread for the firmware version 1.6 install file (and instructions) and do it yourself. My recommendation is to have Apple do it.

But ultimately the burden is on Apple to release EFI version 1.8 that permits reliable communications with a mass storage device at SATA 2 speeds. I don't care how pretty a MBP is or how wonderful Mac OS X is. Reliable data transfer should be a top priority, don't you think?? Apple should stop making snarky ads denigrating Windows and fix this.
 
Solved

Downgraded to 1.6 and no freeze or beachball in about 20 hours of use, THANK YOU PANZO!!
MBP 15" 2,8 ghz mid 2009 seagate 500 7200 rpm

Software update shows 1.7 update, but a weird message from Apple appears:
something like Apple doesn't support or autorize usage over 1,5 gb speed (sorry for the very bad translation...)
Anybody can explain?
 
you mean this?

Apple.com said:
While this update allows drives to use transfer rates greater than 1.5Gbps, Apple has not qualified or offered these drives for Mac notebooks and their use is unsupported.

To complete the firmware update process, please follow the instructions in the updater application (/Applications/Utilities/MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update.app).
 
I have the Apple supplied 500 gig 7200 RPM in my 2009 15" Unibody Macbook Pro, and I'm STILL getting lock up problems, and I'm fully up to date. I thought this was supposed to be fixed?
 
I'm on 7200 rpm, no issues. Apple Hitachi drive.

This is odd. What Apple HDD are you using? Hitachi? Seagate?
Tried downgrading EFI and see if it works yet?

Trial and error ):
 
doesn't mean anything.
Apple's just making sure they got their butts covered incase someone decides to sue them or something.
 
Below is my letter to Apple on the issue. I've sent it to their "Feedback" section as well as the fabled "sjobs@apple.com" email account. If anyone has ANY other recommendations of where to send it, please let me know. Here it is:

Hello.

I'm writing today about an issue I'm sure you at Apple have already heard complaints of multiple times, as it is affecting a large number of your customers who purchased a 2009 MacBook Pro from your company. ANY third-party hard drive installed in one of these machines, will cause the machine to freeze up at random intervals for anywhere from a few seconds to 2 or 3 minutes. This issue is happening regardless of third party hard drive brand, size, or speed. I myself have installed my own 500GB hard drive into my BRAND NEW MacBook Pro, and I am having this problem as well. This issue is being caused by the EFI 1.7 firmware upgrade for these machines. Some users have downgraded back to the 1.6 firmware, but are still having the issues. It is well documented on message boards all over the internet as well as Apple's OWN online support forum. I believe as of right now, the topic regarding the issue is over 90 pages long with around 1,000 replies. It is now past the point of arguing over whether this issue even exists, or if it's serious enough to fix. It is time for Apple to make a statement about this issue, as myself and many others are feeling severely left out in the cold by Apple.

Coming from the standpoint of a longtime customer such as myself who has bought many Apple products through the years (2 MacBooks, 3 iPhones, multiple iPod's and accessories), this issue is VERY dissatisfying. This is NOT the kind of quality control that your customers expect from you, nor is it even close to acceptable, especially for the premium price of your products over your competitors. Apple has been known for making the best quality products on the market for years, so myself and many others are hoping for a fast solution to this problem. I purchased my new 13" MacBook Pro from you in early September and am very close to returning it for this issue. Replacing a Hard Drive is a very simple procedure that many users will perform during the life of their machine, so not supporting this type of procedure is simply illogical. Other then this one issue, my new machine is absolutely perfect, but the freezing issue is something that is too big to overlook. I will be going back to using my 2007 MacBook, which is disappointing since i paid Apple $1500 for a "Pro" computer that is rendered next-to-worthless in my eyes, because of the fact that it is freezing up every 20 or so minutes.

I also happen to work at my local Best Buy, where I am employed in the computers department and have sold HUNDREDS of MacBook's and MacBook Pro's to the customers I help. Normally, Apple is hands-down my number one recommendation, and it's what I try to steer customers towards, because I felt that Apple made the best machines on the market. Now, I don't know if I can continue to persuade customers to buy a machine from my store that I KNOW will become basically worthless if they install a third party hard drive into the machine. This issue is very discouraging to your users, both new and old, who pay the large price for your otherwise unrivaled products.

Please, please fix this issue for your customers that continue to buy your products. Myself, and many others are VERY anxious to Apple's response to this very serious matter. Thank you for your time and consideration, and eventually your solution to this problem.

A longtime Apple user,

(And in case you were wondering, my computer froze SIX times while composing this letter, for about 5 seconds each time.)
 
So...I reverted back to the 1.6 firmware, and still have the problem. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm on a WD 500GB Scorpio drive. Has anyone found any third party hard drives, 500GB preferably, that AREN'T affected by the firmware issues?! I'm about to go back to my whitebook and get a refund on this piece of ****.

This has also been the case for me with a Seagate 500GB Momentus 5400.6 drive, with both firmware 1.7 and even after trying 1.6 firmware. Switching to the 1.6 firmware, with SMC and PRAM resets, did seem to reduce the issue somewhat but it was still unstable. I was able to install Snow Leopard and run it with very few beach balls until I tried more intensive use. When running virtual machines on Snow Leopard it beach-balled so often it became unusable (15-30s at a time freezes happening every few minutes). Very frustrating, I ended up having to go back to the stock 160GB drive and run the 500GB in an external enclosure until Apple fixes this issue. My system is the same as yours, MacBook Pro 13" - purchased Aug 8th. The stock drive runs fine, even on 1.7 firmware.
 
i have this drive: Hitachi HTS545032B9SA02

its the stock one and im having problems with it.... this is very frustrating.

anyone else have this drive and is experiencing this issue?

I do. Same drive here, 13" MBP 2.53. Shipped from the factory with EFI 1.7. Getting random beachballs and freezes all the time.

Resetting the SMC/PRAM seems to make it go away for a little while, but it always comes back.

Interested in trying the 1.6 downgrade.
 
Below is my letter to Apple on the issue. I've sent it to their "Feedback" section as well as the fabled "sjobs@apple.com" email account. If anyone has ANY other recommendations of where to send it, please let me know. Here it is:

Hello.

I'm writing today about an issue........

I'm going to give you some serious advice here, take this any way you please, however this is real what I am about to tell you. If you want Apple or any company that you write a letter to, to take you seriously, you need to have a grown up adult proofread your letters. It's simply obvious that you are a teenager and your letter sounds like an adolescent teen that spends an enormous amount of time on online forums reading about disgruntled customers.
The first paragraph of your letter was all you needed to write, the second and 3rd paragraphs are way too much added fluff about you working at Best Buy, da da da. Think about it when someone just goes on and on and on and on, at some point you become immune to what they are saying.
Also, using FULL caps on certain words to emphasize your point is unnecessary. Again, if you want Apple to take you seriously just tell them about your situation only, don't add the fluff about multiple online forums mentioning this issue including Apple OWN online forum. Companies don't pay attention to forums, they take heed to feedback sent directly to their company, such as your letter. Good luck, hope you get the feedback you are expecting as I do understand that this issue does in fact need to be addressed.
 
The first paragraph of your letter was all you needed to write, the second and 3rd paragraphs are way too much added fluff about you working at Best Buy, da da da. Think about it when someone just goes on and on and on and on, at some point you become immune to what they are saying.
Also, using FULL caps on certain words to emphasize your point is unnecessary. Again, if you want Apple to take you seriously just tell them about your situation only, don't add the fluff about multiple online forums mentioning this issue including Apple OWN online forum. Companies don't pay attention to forums, they take heed to feedback sent directly to their company, such as your letter. Good luck, hope you get the feedback you are expecting as I do understand that this issue does in fact need to be addressed.
The letter is fine, even if it's not the way HLdan would have written it. It summarizes the problem, shows prior loyalty to the Apple brand and reminds Apple that consumers have other options. Using ALL CAPS for occasional emphasis is also fine. The same emphasis can be shown with italics.

Also, I don't subscribe to the commonly repeated belief that companies don't read forums. That may have been true at one time, but I don't think it's true any longer. Forums such as this one or the Apple forums have significant readership, and companies who choose to ignore what customers are saying about their products do so at their own peril. News travels quickly on the Web. I would be very surprised if Apple were not aware of this firmware issue at a management level. But people should contact Apple directly if they have a problem so Apple can determine how widespread the problem is and look for a solution.

What I don't understand is why the press hasn't picked up on this (including Macrumors). The downgrade to SATA 1 was certainly picked up quickly; perhaps because it was so easily verifiable and it was so inexplicable. The EFI version 1.7 problem is hard to quantify since it seems to be inconsistent even among people with identical hardware. But it seems to me that there is enough here for the press to investigate.
 
I may have come across a new discovery with the issue, although I'm not sure, so forgive me if this has already been posted.

On top of the freezing beach ball issues with my brand new 13MBP with a 500GB WD Blue drive installed, I've also been having problems with my Sudden Motion Sensor (SMS). When the machine turns on, System Profiler shows the SMS being enabled, but after a few minutes of usage, I will re-check System Profiler and it shows the SMS suddenly being disabled. I've run the terminal commands to check and enable the SMS, and even though the terminal commands report back showing that it is enabled, System Profiler always shows it being disabled. Here's what I did: I booted my MacBook Pro up and immediately opened System Profiler. It showed my SMS being enabled, as it always does within the first few minutes of booting my machine. I then opened iTunes and started playing music (just to have something running from the HDD) and opened System Profiler on top of that and waited. Sure enough, the exact same moment my machine experienced it's first "beach ball" of the fresh boot, my SMS status immediately changed from "enabled" to "disabled" in System Profiler. Turned off machine, and tried it again. A few minutes into music playing, the first 10 second freeze shows up, and the SMS is automatically disabled, according to System Profiler. Now to find out what the link between the two is...

This may be unique to just me, but if other users want to test this out and try to find some correlation then it may be worth a shot. I am running on a 13" MBP with EFI 1.7 and a 500GB WD Blue drive, as stated above.
 
My machine just beachballed and froze AGAIN (MacBook Pro 13" and Patriot Torqx 128GB). And this is still with the 1.6 firmware.

I decided to download a SMART Utility and run and look what I got:

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17 inch MBP

Guys, has anyone with a 17 inch MBP with the Hitachi HTS545050B9SA02 drive (5400 RPM factory) installed the firmware downgrade to 1.6? Is it even possible on the 17?

I've got this stupid beachball issue myself, particularly when playing iTunes and browsing around in safari.

It's driving me a little bit insane. And I need this machine for work, so I can't afford to send it to Apple really, especially given that most seem to think that Apple are refusing to acknowledge it as a fault.

I love this machine to bits, but my 4 year old G5 doesn't give me this grief :(

Hopefully Apple is working on this...
 
So...I reverted back to the 1.6 firmware, and still have the problem. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm on a WD 500GB Scorpio drive. Has anyone found any third party hard drives, 500GB preferably, that AREN'T affected by the firmware issues?! I'm about to go back to my whitebook and get a refund on this piece of ****.

Not all computers seem to be affected by the drive issue. I've had a Scorpio Black 7200 320GB, Scorpio Blue 500GB & an Intel X25 160GB G2 ALL in my 13" MBP without any beachballs with any of the drives.

Maybe you should take your computer in for service and explain.
 
im still raged apple hasnt made an official statememnt about all this, unnaceptable. They know it exists since they released a rollback utility, but yet no official comment, highly unprfessional.
 
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