I have the same problem with my MacBook Pro 15.4" C2D. I have 9C60 and my serial number is W86433?????. I'm planning to call up Apple and attempt to get it replaced for a Glossy and see how that goes, cause I've read a lot of posts that claim glossy is better.
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MacBook Pro Grainy Display
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Glossy is not better. Don't let that trick you. I've seen it in person and the glossy just looks better at first cause it's glossy but, the pattern is still there.
Well how should I go about doing this? I was thinking of exchanging for a glossy screen, and if it's still there, refund and get myself a black MacBook or something... I think the problem is less-present on a glossy, plus I think I prefer glossy screens anyway.
I agree. The higher contrast brought about by the glossy layer makes you think that it's better when in fact it's the same - for better or worse. Also, the lighting in the Apple Store does not allow you to compare properly and does tend to make the matte version look more washed out. I think they're the same display with the same characteristics, just glossy.
if you tilt back a matte laptop screen that doesnt have the grain problem, you can easily see the difference between the two images. the grain is really noticeable, and i can only hope that i dont see it on my MBP when it comes on satuday...
You're right; I have a PB 15" and I saw the (simulated) grain in the example image. But when I tilt the screen backward it becomes very visible. Maybe other MR visitors can try that instead of watching the screen from directly in front.
Also, I checked the Manufacturer and Model of the display in my PB 15":
Manufacturer: 610
Model: 9C20
Appearantly the Manufacturer is still the same but the display has evolved 4 (?) versions:
source: http://web.mac.com/goulwen.pele/iWeb/Macbook%20Pro%20C2D/MPB%20C2D%20SCREEN.html
I just noticed the graininess on my 17"...but frankly, I think you're crazy if this is driving you crazy. It's ridiculously subtle.
Just picked up my new 15" MacBook Pro C2D. I had posted earlier about seeing the very noticeable grain during a store visit. Well, I went to another Apple store today and noticed the screens were NOT grainy at all, much different from the screens I had seen earlier in the week. I bought one right away and prayed the screen would be ok when I got it home, and it is. It must be a bad batch of screens. I am comparing mine to a high quality external display, and it looks very similar.
Maybe my eye sight is not as good as yours. But, I am not seeing the things the OP stated. Maybe my MBP is a good batch. Or, people are getting nitpicking at the smallest imperfection. The OP even started a thread on 20" ACD having the same grainy issues on the other thread on MR. It's good that I am not seeing the grainy screen with my own Mac.
I agree that it "might" be some grainess, but nothing to get mad about, I also look sme grain in other PC displays, but I guess it got something to do with the desktop appearance, don't know, maybe if you change the color combiation or something like that.... for me works just fine, and wotching DVD is no big issue
Got Apple to replace my current one with a glossy. I'll keep you guys updated on how it goes. Sounds like a bad batch to me... guy on the phone told me to boot into my OS X install disc and it was still there (duh), and transferred me to order manager to discuss getting it replaced.
Courier comes tomorrow to pick it up... Back to Windows/Linux again ;(
Courier comes tomorrow to pick it up... Back to Windows/Linux again ;(
I disagree, coming from a matte screen i can tell you the glossy is indeed better. Is the pattern still there...yes BUT its heck of a lot better than on the matte version because the glossy coat HUGELY remedies the issue. This is waaay easier on my eyes and i dont need to switch to my external display to be able to use my machine. In fact i haven't connected to an external display since i got it.
Then again, i probably just luckd out on a good display.
Go to system preferences>displays>color and open a profile click on the 13th item and it should be there.
Mine was definitely NOT subtle. Some people say it may have varied in intensity depending on the machine and the person looking at it. So it's not bad to you doesn't mean that it's not bad to everyone. We're the one's who have to look at this screen for the time we own the computer so you gotta decided with *yourself* whether you can do that or not. Also, I noticed (and stated many times) that the 17" screen looks very clear and has little or no grain at all. We're concerned with the very different looking 15.4" MBP C2D.
What's the model number of your MBP? Is it a 15" or a 17"? Glossy/Matte?
I'm starting to think it's a bad batch, too.
Screen Tearing
Hello,
This question doesn't specifically relate to screen grain, but it does concern the display generally.
I was wondering if anyone had noticed screen tearing on the MBP C2D during high GPU intensive tasks. The reason I ask: I currently have an HP nw8240 which has an ATI FireGL V5000 (128MB) graphics card. This is a fairly high spec machine, but I have noticed that certain grahpics tasks cause screen tearing (specifically, OpenGL screensavers and some fast moving DVD scences). The effect you see with tearing is like a horizontal line moving up and down the screen. The reason this happens is when the frame rate is higher than the screen refresh rate. The normal fix is to enable vsync with the card, but this has not worked in my case.
I'm wanting to make sure the Apple doesn't suffer this same issue, being as it also uses an ATI card. This does not happen on my work notebook, which uses a much lower spec Nvidia card.
If anyone is willing to test thisD ) i'd be very greatful. A screensaver that consistently tears on my HP is called Hyperspace (if you Google it, should be easy enough to find, plus you'll get a lovely saver!).
Hope this isn't too much trouble.
Damo
Hello,
This question doesn't specifically relate to screen grain, but it does concern the display generally.
I was wondering if anyone had noticed screen tearing on the MBP C2D during high GPU intensive tasks. The reason I ask: I currently have an HP nw8240 which has an ATI FireGL V5000 (128MB) graphics card. This is a fairly high spec machine, but I have noticed that certain grahpics tasks cause screen tearing (specifically, OpenGL screensavers and some fast moving DVD scences). The effect you see with tearing is like a horizontal line moving up and down the screen. The reason this happens is when the frame rate is higher than the screen refresh rate. The normal fix is to enable vsync with the card, but this has not worked in my case.
I'm wanting to make sure the Apple doesn't suffer this same issue, being as it also uses an ATI card. This does not happen on my work notebook, which uses a much lower spec Nvidia card.
If anyone is willing to test this
D ) i'd be very greatful. A screensaver that consistently tears on my HP is called Hyperspace (if you Google it, should be easy enough to find, plus you'll get a lovely saver!).Hope this isn't too much trouble.
Damo
Hello,
This question doesn't specifically relate to screen grain, but it does concern the display generally.
I was wondering if anyone had noticed screen tearing on the MBP C2D during high GPU intensive tasks. The reason I ask: I currently have an HP nw8240 which has an ATI FireGL V5000 (128MB) graphics card. This is a fairly high spec machine, but I have noticed that certain grahpics tasks cause screen tearing (specifically, OpenGL screensavers and some fast moving DVD scences). The effect you see with tearing is like a horizontal line moving up and down the screen. The reason this happens is when the frame rate is higher than the screen refresh rate. The normal fix is to enable vsync with the card, but this has not worked in my case.
I'm wanting to make sure the Apple doesn't suffer this same issue, being as it also uses an ATI card. This does not happen on my work notebook, which uses a much lower spec Nvidia card.
If anyone is willing to test this
Hope this isn't too much trouble.
Damo
Hi..that screensaver was awesome. I didn't get any tearing (horizontal line like you mentioned), but I had to keep most settings on default or lower because it was kinda jerky otherwise.
15" 2.16 C2D MBP
Heya!
Thanks for doing that test, I really appreciate it! Glad you like the saver too, it's really beautiful to watch.
If someone with a 17" could test this as well i'd be most greatful. Still not sure whether i'm going the big 'un or the not so big 'un. This could be the deciding factor (well - probably not...)
Damo