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I also got some goods from Apple via TNT.
But it is a long time ago. Are you sure they are using only DHL Express ?
 
by legal do you mean legal or do you mean its a grey area and isnt pursued?

Legal means that in Switzerland there is no law which forbids downloading movies and shows for personal use from the Internet, as long as you don't share it.

So it's not a grey area - it's actually not forbidden by any law, making it legal per definition. But you have to be careful: if you use bittorrent and seed what you download, you're in illegal territory again.
 
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How this all came to be:
Tim and Jon sitting in Tim's office:
Tim: "You have to redesign them. These ports are missing"
Jon: "I have to write my book"
Tim: "Jon, please, we do not have time for this nonsense"
Jon: "But Steve promised me..."
Tim: "Steve is dead!"
Jon screaming and running out of the office: "You always say that... Noooo!"
Tim calling Phil:
Tim: "Phil, you have to do them without the ports"
Phil: "They will hate them"
Tim: "Please. Jon wants to write his book"
Phil: "Oh man... OK."
Tim is hanging up: "Time for some music listening with my old earpords on my new iPhone 7... ARGGGHHHH!"
Minutes later you see some earpods with an ancient port flying out of Tim's office...
Tim is sitting in the corner of his office aggressively counting: "One Euro for me, one for the Irish tax payers, one Euro for me.... Arghh"
... and he is calling Angela: "DELAY THE EU MACBOOKS IMMEDIATELY"
 
Its DHL Express, as long as they get the delivery until Sunday evening they can deliver on Monday. But I'm a bit worried about the lack of updates as well.

I hope you are correct. I read a few forums for "China phones" delivered by DHL Express and my understanding was they need to be in DHL's hands the working day before at 15:00 CET latest. They would also work slower on Saturdays (and not at all Sunday's), so I hope you right and they had no clue. Myself I have neither an idea nor experience with DHL Express.
 
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Morning angels :) Apple continues to bully me. Still not dispatched :/

Your order will be shipped on monday, so don't worry. Probably you will receive your Macbook this friday. You are on a two to three day later delivery window then me and I am planned for this tuesday. So that makes a lot of sense.

I contacted Apple and DHL and they confirmed above.
 
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Morning angels :) Apple continues to bully me. Still not dispatched :/

Yeah... seams they are waiting to get a plane fully loaded. My delivery timeframe was between the 16-23...they will miss it. Others received theirs before estimation. I hate apple for that.
 
I hope you are correct. I read a few forums for "China phones" delivered by DHL Express and my understanding was they need to be in DHL's hands the working day before at 15:00 CET latest. They would also work slower on Saturdays (and not at all Sunday's), so I hope you right and they had no clue. Myself I have no idea and experience too with DHL Express.

Don't worry. I contacted DHL. They said there will be an update when DHL receive the Macbooks. Right now the Macbooks are in a depot for sorting and will be handed out this monday. Later on that day we will receive an update and a sms.
 
Yeah it looks like they put the cursor full on "shipping cost reduction / optimisation". Well, if my MBP can suddenly make it into a flight I'll be both happy (for me) and sad (for you). Apple should honor the first come first served principle.
 
Status Auf dem Transport zum Kunden - Lieferung im Zeitplan Update: 19. November 2016
Vorauss. Liefertermin 24. November 2016
Frachtunternehmen DHL EXPRESS
Tracking-Nummer xxxxxxxx
Versandart Standardversand

Ok - i got a little status update.
 
Apple says the 25th, the tracker on the page I quoted above says Monday (but that would be delivery at the distribution centre). Assuming it only takes a day to merge, I can't see why I shouldn't get it by Tuesday.
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Be careful - the link's cited delivery destination will be the Apple distribution centre for merging, not your home.

So why it says that it is taking the plane CA1035 today, plane that lands today in Amsterdam? it's still 2 days for DHL or whatever to deliver it...
 

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Don't worry. I contacted DHL. They said there will be an update when DHL receive the Macbooks. Right now the Macbooks are in a depot for sorting and will be handed out this monday. Later on that day we will receive an update and a sms.

Yeah now I remember a few pages back you said you had a call with them and I was already wondering back then why they would hold them back if they already have them. I suppose we can't to anything but wait. If we are lucky they will be handed over very early Monday morning and will be delivered later the same day.
 
If they are coming from China....

Why would it take so long? A flight lasts roughly 10 hours from there and if they got sent out a few hours ago...

That's what I'm still wondering. Can someone explain this to me?

I'm impressed by the optimism on this thread, and enjoy reading it, but all the evidence points to the following observations I'm afraid folks (hope to be proved wrong).

1. They haven't left China yet, most likely due to (2) below..so the tracking info is really just a customer pacification mechanism now (which relates to my final comment below).
2. Most, if not all, of the pre-orders destined for the EU are being shipped in grouped shipments. Physical dispatch not occurring until air-freight quota has been filled from the assembly line. This explains a delivery window and not a delivery date - they don't know exactly in advance when the air-freight quota will be filled. (Air freight costs have been rising sharply throughout 2016).
3. John Lewis in the UK were listing the new models as "Coming Soon" (which means less than a week in my experience as a JL customer). I noticed yesterday they've taken them off their site completely. This tells me the delivery date for their stock has been passed and they don't now know when they're getting them.
4. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the BTO orders are grouped with the stock retail units - to save money, but that means BTO orders could be delayed until enough stop models have been assembled (or vice versa).
5. The above leads me to wonder why is Apple penny pinching on air freight costs (despite the rising costs of) given the premium price we pay for their products and their stock piles of cash (look at their new head office for example!).
6. In my mind, a pre-order should mean you get it on the first day it's available on the market, anywhere. Certainly at the very least before 0900 on the first day the product is available in the store. It seems to me Apple have quietly let this go, in favour of reduced shipping costs. Given Tim Cook is a supply-chain / cost-efficiency industry virtuoso, this isn't surprising. But deliveries at the end of a multi-day delivery window is a bit rubbish imho.
7. Mass availability in retail stores of the new units in the US, yet UK pre-order customers are still waiting is a bit of a let-down particularly as the UK prices of their new products have been inflated "due to currency rate fluctuations" (which is rubbish, Apple will have hedged any foreign exchange risk months ago).

All in all, I have to say, it feels like Apple are showing remarkable arrogance towards their customer base these days. Dumping the headphone jack on the iPhone 7 to remove the home button which was causing them additional warranty repair costs (by making space for the electronic haptic version) and calling it "courage" (yet keeping the jack on all other product lines)...is probable the prime example of this new found arrogance / over confidence of customer loyalty.

[END OF RANT] I'm going to make a cuppa.
 
So why it says that it is taking the plane CA1035 today, plane that lands today in Amsterdam? it's still 2 days for DHL or whatever to deliver it...
Your order is being merged in transit, so this means you have other items to be delivered alongside the MBP (dongles?). CA1035 is only carrying your MBP, not the other items you ordered. So it has to deliver the MBP to the distribution centre who will merge the MBP with the other items. The distribution centre will then forward the entire package (MBP + other items) to the courier to deliver them to you as one item.

So as far as the tracking for CA1035 is concerned, the final destination is the distribution centre.
 
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Morning angels :) Apple continues to bully me. Still not dispatched :/

I wouldn't worry. Even if it changed to dispatched it wouldn't mean the unit has moved anywhere. Your unit is probably about to roll off the assembly line and onto a pallet going no where with the rest of them (with the difference being the ones on the pallet have been assigned a waybill number from the courier). Mine has been "dispatched" for 3 days and hasn't move anywhere.
 
I'm impressed by the optimism on this thread, and enjoy reading it, but all the evidence points to the following observations I'm afraid folks (hope to be proved wrong).

1. They haven't left China yet, most likely due to (2) below..so the tracking info is really just a customer pacification mechanism now (which relates to my final comment below).
2. Most, if not all, of the pre-orders destined for the EU are being shipped in grouped shipments. Physical dispatch not occurring until air-freight quota has been filled from the assembly line. This explains a delivery window and not a delivery date - they don't know exactly in advance when the air-freight quota will be filled. (Air freight costs have been rising sharply throughout 2016).
3. John Lewis in the UK were listing the new models as "Coming Soon" (which means less than a week in my experience as a JL customer). I noticed yesterday they've taken them off their site completely. This tells me the delivery date for their stock has been passed and they don't now know when they're getting them.
4. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the BTO orders are grouped with the stock retail units - to save money, but that means BTO orders could be delayed until enough stop models have been assembled (or vice versa).
5. The above leads me to wonder why is Apple penny pinching on air freight costs (despite the rising costs of) given the premium price we pay for their products and their stock piles of cash (look at their new head office for example!).
6. In my mind, a pre-order should mean you get it on the first day it's available on the market, anywhere. Certainly at the very least before 0900 on the first day the product is available in the store. It seems to me Apple have quietly let this go, in favour of reduced shipping costs. Given Tim Cook is a supply-chain / cost-efficiency industry virtuoso, this isn't surprising. But deliveries at the end of a multi-day delivery window is a bit rubbish imho.
7. Mass availability in retail stores of the new units in the US, yet UK pre-order customers are still waiting is a bit of a let-down particularly as the UK prices of their new products have been inflated "due to currency rate fluctuations" (which is rubbish, Apple will have hedged any foreign exchange risk months ago).

All in all, I have to say, it feels like Apple are showing remarkable arrogance towards their customer base these days. Dumping the headphone jack on the iPhone 7 to remove the home button which was causing them additional warranty repair costs (by making space for the electronic haptic version) and calling it "courage" (yet keeping the jack on all other product lines)...is probable the prime example of this new found arrogance / over confidence of customer loyalty.

[END OF RANT] I'm going to make a cuppa.

What is your source, because is doesn't make sense. Never had this experience with Apple and my Macbook is going to be delivered within my time frame. So, dont worry and drink a cup of thee. Don't do coffee..
 
Woke up this morning to find that apple now have a pending transaction on the money. Not fully charged yet but that's the first sliver of movement since I ordered

13"MBP W/TB 16GB - 3/4 dispatch - 25/11 to 02/12
 
Yeah now I remember a few pages back you said you had a call with them and I was already wondering back then why they would hold them back if they already have them. I suppose we can't to anything but wait. If we are lucky they will be handed over very early Monday morning and will be delivered later the same day.
If they are handed to DHL on Monday, they will arrive on Tuesday or Wednesday. :(
 
Your order is being merged in transit, so this means you have other items to be delivered alongside the MBP (dongles?). CA1035 is only carrying your MBP, not the other items you ordered. So it has to deliver the MBP to the distribution centre who will merge the MBP with the other items. The distribution centre will then forward the entire package (MBP + other items) to the courier to deliver them to you as one item.

So as far as the tracking for CA1035 is concerned, the final destination is the distribution centre.

Correct!
But this plane CA1035 only flies once a week and it is today (if you look flight tracking, this plane already landed in Schipol).
So today items are at distribution center and begin of next week it should be home.
Why should it take more time if both MBP and dongle are already in Amsterdam now?
 
What is your source, because is doesn't make sense. Never had this experience with Apple and my Macbook is going to be delivered within my time frame. So, dont worry and drink a cup of thee. Don't do coffee..

Which aspect doesn't make sense to you? When I pre-ordered it said 2-3 weeks delivery. 3 weeks have passed already, and I have a dispatched notice 3 days old but no sign of it anywhere on the DHL "Express" tracking. If I have ordered it from John Lewis and it was going to be late they would at least inform me directly.
 
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