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Heck no. You wish though.

And if I am guessing right, there is going to be another Mac Pro revision this year because the new Mac Pros are called "Early 2008" which leads to speculate that there might be another Mac Pro update this year. ;)

My guess the next Mac Pro is going to be called: "Late 2008" Mac Pro.
Sorry for off topic.
 
And if I am guessing right, there is going to be another Mac Pro revision this year because the new Mac Pros are called "Early 2008" which leads to speculate that there might be another Mac Pro update this year. ;)

My guess the next Mac Pro is going to be called: "Late 2008" Mac Pro.
Sorry for off topic.

That just denotes what point of the year the machine came out. Early, Mid or Late.
 
Ok..ok....my bad...chillax. So then let me rephrase. I buy MBP on Feb. 8, 08 without AppleCare. Warranty runs out on Feb. 8, 09. I wait a year, then on Feb. 8, 2010 I buy AppleCare. Can I do that and be covered until Feb. 8, 2012?

no. you can't do that. you must purchase before you one year warranty runs out

2011 is the best you can do, dude, give it up!
 
Ok..ok....my bad...chillax. So then let me rephrase. I buy MBP on Feb. 8, 08 without AppleCare. Warranty runs out on Feb. 8, 09. I wait a year, then on Feb. 8, 2010 I buy AppleCare. Can I do that and be covered until Feb. 8, 2012?

Still looking for those loopholes eh?
 
This is all deja vu for me. I remember two weeks ago when everyone was like "I'll be on the computer all night and I'll be the first to order it!" or something like that. Then, this past Tuesday people were like "Ok, now it's definitely coming out this time. Look, the Apple Store is down on a Tuesday!". Trust me, I really want a new MBP to replace my aging iBook....but Apple already knows when they're releasing it and that date isn't going to change. It could be this Tuesday. Or the next. Maybe Sunday morning at 3:54 A.M. Who knows. That's part of being an Apple fanboy(girl) :apple: ;)
 
This is all deja vu for me. I remember two weeks ago when everyone was like "I'll be on the computer all night and I'll be the first to order it!" or something like that. Then, this past Tuesday people were like "Ok, now it's definitely coming out this time. Look, the Apple Store is down on a Tuesday!". Trust me, I really want a new MBP to replace my aging iBook....but Apple already knows when they're releasing it and that date isn't going to change. It could be this Tuesday. Or the next. Maybe Sunday morning at 3:54 A.M. Who knows. That's part of being an Apple fanboy(girl) :apple: ;)

I know exactly what you mean. I can't be like this anymore. I'm on edge all the time. The past two Tuesdays the store has gone down. I was so excited, so sure that that was the day. (Maybe not sure but I sure as hell wanted it to be) and then I was dissappointed again. I want this Tuesday just as much as the rest of you. But I don't think I can take another emotional beating again. Let's all hope for sooner rather than later I guess. But all we can do at this point is speculate. And speculate we will.
 
Hell yes!! :p Haha, ok, ok...for now I give up but I still have plenty of time to find a way in (until Dec. '09 you say. :p). From people's experience, is AppleCare worth the money...like are there high chances of your MBP to break in 3 years?

I guess you'll be glad you get it in the scenario where something goes wrong on your last day of cover, and they give you a new machine ;) Otherwise, it's just insurance
 
I prayed to Dog that I could catch my flawed message in time but alas I was too late. SIGH. Now that oxygen is once again flowing freely through my body I hope we can still be dyslexic friends on this never-ending journey towards Apple nowhere.

Of course Hil and let us enjoy some light hearted diversion during our wait.

Question? Do you feel like sometimes Steve Jobs is Moses and we are his people, following him aimlessly, through a vast dessert, to a promised Land that will end up being where? In the middle of the friggin dessert?

Yes Hil, I know what you mean. I worry that if Mac start to really do well, and let's face it Gates's team appears to be flagging somewhat) will they become more like MS in their business practices. It isn't surprising that MS have lost a few court cases in Europe.

The promised land for Steve might be a mighty business empire that has lost the values that we have all respected in Apple such as being able to freely share files, lack of control freak mentality etc.

It is a desert, there is always another sanddune in the distance with a newer version of the MBP sitting on it.
 
Of course Hil and let us enjoy some light hearted diversion during our wait.



Yes Hil, I know what you mean. I worry that if Mac start to really do well, and let's face it Gates's team appears to be flagging somewhat) will they become more like MS in their business practices. It isn't surprising that MS have lost a few court cases in Europe.

The promised land for Steve might be a mighty business empire that has lost the values that we have all respected in Apple such as being able to freely share files, lack of control freak mentality etc.

It is a desert, there is always another sanddune in the distance with a newer version of the MBP sitting on it.

I am too worried about the future of apple as it becomes more and more popular. It has had to deliver quality to survive as the low man on the totem pole. But as apple becomes more popular, things could decrease in quality. (I SO HOPE NOT!!!!!)
 
Oh man, there are some great posts in here. Thanks txhil and Russet!

And on the point just brought up about Apple, I agree. It would be nice to see them get more and more customers, but if Apple grew lax like Microsoft after gaining a huge following and started turning out half-baked products that would be very disappointing. If Microsoft turns around and starts putting out better stuff to provide more competition for Apple, then that would be something. Oh well, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it...
My dog told me the next MBP update is sometime in the future.
 
I'm not too worried about quality being compromised anytime soon. I mean, look at 10.5.2 and how long it's taking to be released. Apple seems to have its priorities in order on the quality issue. Although I do wish they would end this suspense and at least put out an official statement as to the approximate time the MBP should be expected to arrive. I know it's coming anytime soon, and I'm fortunately patient enough and fed up with Windows enough to wait it out. However, I can't help but think there are those that were turned off by the waiting game and changed their minds to go with a PC machine instead. All those lost potential sales have got to be hurting Apple's bottom line... The mystery was cute at first, but now it's just excruciating.
 
2.4...strange...

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was a 2.4 for baseline, then 2.6 for the higher end models. Maybe a 2.8 BTO option. And if you think about it, the 2.4 would be cheaper than the 2.5 and, from a customer's point of view, it'd just be a .1 difference between the baseline and higher end.
 
the 2.4ghz T8300 with 3Mb l2 cache? I really hope not.
The T9300 and T9500 are more likely..6Mb l2 cache. 2.5 & 2.6ghz.
 
I have no idea if this means anything or not. My Black Macbook broke down for the 3rd time on Tuesday 5th with the exact same problem. The Product specialist decided to replace it this time so I requested that I pay the difference and upagrade to the entry level 15" MBP which he allowed me to do.

Well, now I'm a bit confused. Tuesday 5th I was approved for the upgrade to the entry level 15" MacbookPro:

You can see the specs of the MBP in the quote above. I chose all the default options except I chose the glossy screen instead (no additional cost).

Yesterday FedEx picked up my defective Macbook and the Apple rep ordered my MBP. Today I got an e-mail informing me of the order and my order # and a link to the order status page. Looking at that page shows the config specs (listed below) which are identical to the mid level MBP and not the entry level MBP.



I called to confirm that their not sending and charging me for the mid level MBP. She confirmed I'm getting the entry level MBP and will only be charged $500. Since the rumor is the MBP update is coming on Feb 12th and my shipping date says between the 8th and 12th maybe I will be getting one of the updated models, I'm honesty not sure.


I originally thought that may be they don't have enough stock of base model but quick check on Apple store proved me wrong(I am glad I am wrong)

But if this indeed is a base model for next generation MBP, it's sort of a bad news since Penryn 2.4Ghz only sports 3MB L2 Cache. I mean I don't know too much about L2 and etc but more can't be bad but as current 2.2Ghz matches the price of current 2.2Ghz I guess that's why Apple did this.
Also I was really hopping that Apple will begin with 200GB HDD and 250GB on upper model.

At least I hope they give us 256MB graphic memory even XPS has GDDR3 256MB you know not that Apple cares really.

So it seems like Top two line up will be sth like 2.5Ghz with 2.6Ghz CTO and 200GB HDD. And high possibility of 2GB memory still but 4GB will be great.

Btw does 4GB mean much in Mac OS X cause apparently it does not mean much in Windows Vista 32bit. I know Mac OS X is 64bit but how 64bit is it anyway? If Mac OS X is mostly 32bit, is this why Apple hesitant to include 4GB.

Update: processor price:2.6GHz T9500 ($530), and 2.5GHz T9300 ($316) CPUs with 6MB L2 Cache. 2.4GHz T8300 ($241) and 2.1GHz T8100 ($209) with 3MB L2 cache. And apparently T9300 is at the same price point as current 2.4Ghz and T8300 at the same price point as current 2.2Ghz
 
But if this indeed is a base model for next generation MBP, it's sort of a bad news since Penryn 2.4Ghz only sports 3MB L2 Cache. I mean I don't know too much about L2 and etc but more can't be bad but as current 2.2Ghz matches the price of current 2.2Ghz I guess that's why Apple did this.

The current entry-level MacBook Pro has 2.2 GHz with 4 MB L2 cache. If the new model is 2.4 GHz with 3 MB L2 then the performance it gets will be better than the old model for most tasks, but there will be a few tasks that run slower, because they need to access main memory more often due to the smaller cache. Overall I expect it would be better except in rare cases.

Btw does 4GB mean much in Mac OS X cause apparently it does not mean much in Windows Vista 32bit. I know Mac OS X is 64bit but how 64bit is it anyway? If Mac OS X is mostly 32bit, is this why Apple hesitant to include 4GB.

With 32-bit versions of Windows, you really can't use all of 4 GB of memory. The system is limited to a little over 3 GB, even if you have more than that installed. You must run a 64-bit version of Windows to use 4 GB of more RAM.

With Mac OS X 10.5, the system is easily able to use all of 4 GB of memory (or more, e.g. in a Mac Pro). Individual 32-bit processes can only use about 2 or 3 GB, but you can have several processes running, and between them they can collectively use more than 4 GB. 64-bit processes can use more than 4 GB all by themselves.

If you use your computer for a single memory-hungry application and it is 32 bits, then that application won't be able to use all of 4 GB, but the rest can be used for other parts of the system and for file system caching.

The only reason that Apple would hesitate to include 4 GB as standard is the extra cost of the memory modules.
 
Interesting... They make no mention in the specs list what Graphics card is in it...

Wheelie4, call them up and ask what Graphics card you're getting in it, and how much RAM it has. If they can't tell you, that's very exciting news. It probably means they're updating the Graphics Card in the new MBPs as well.

The girls number I have is not toll free and she's only at work monday thru friday 8-5pm CMT so I couldn't contact her now. She didn't know about the difference in the specs she read off to me (I think she placed the order on their store site) and the specs listed on my order status page. So I just wanted to make sure I was getting the entry level MBP and was only being charged the $500 we agreed on and that I approved and not being charged $1000 and being sent the mid level MBP.

I'd be happy with the currently listed entry MBP (which I was expecting anyway) but if their going to send me an updated model I'll accept that and be even more happy with that outcome of my defective black macbook replacement. :)
 
MBP Updates

Hi Friends,

I recently went back home to India, and in a leading vernacular daily, they commented that MBP update period to be in last week of Feb- first week of March.

Another rumor treading out of the enormous rumor mill regarding MBP updates!;)
Time apple's monopoly in this segment needs to be broken!!

cheers
 
Hi Friends,

I recently went back home to India, and in a leading vernacular daily, they commented that MBP update period to be in last week of Feb- first week of March.

Another rumor treading out of the enormous rumor mill regarding MBP updates!;)
Time apple's monopoly in this segment needs to be broken!!

cheers

Source link please.
 
Hi Friends,

I recently went back home to India, and in a leading vernacular daily, they commented that MBP update period to be in last week of Feb- first week of March.

Another rumor treading out of the enormous rumor mill regarding MBP updates!;)
Time apple's monopoly in this segment needs to be broken!!

cheers

Which vernacular daily was that?
 
Okay, the 12th is fast approaching and my account is ready for that 17" book with dual HDDs and a dual 2.8GHz chip.

And i can't forget the mag latch and user swappable drives in a newly designed case.

:)

p.s. wirelessly posted from HTC TOUCH using copy/paste from Word Mobile on wicked fast EVDO!
 
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