Ugh I'm waiting for this computer for college, I was banking on the fact it would be coming out the September event, I can't go too long w/o a computer
I am gonna be so disappointed if Apple keeps using AMD's GPU's. Seriously, I don't get it. They haven't been competitive with Nvidia for years now. Why would Apple use sub-par parts???
AMD's GPU's are power hungry and slow. Why on earth would Apple keep using them...?
There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance that AMD's mobile GPU's will be 'vr-ready' any time soon. Not that I personally care much about VR....but the GPU is such an important, integral part of a computer that Apple should be willing to give it at least a little bit of thought asides from "which company will give us a cheaper deal".
Yeah I don't get that either. Where is the Esc key? How can I compile my code in IntelliJ without Fn keys?
LOL @ laptop grade GPUs in a desktop. Why does NOBODY call out Apple for this crap?
Because when they get onstage they say, "Incredible", "The best, most powerful..", etc. and people go home believing them. I am waiting for boos from the audience at the next big event. I think that is what is needed to get Apple off their butt.
I think thats more telling about what Apple is doing, not the customer base.
Currently, their laptops, especially the "pro" series is out of date. its not a terrible laptop by any stretch, but the components in it are now 3 generations old. Its not just pure horsepower that comes with newer generations of internals. It's more efficiency, better feature set, battery life improvements and expandibility. For users who prefer OSx, but need a computer that has some muscle behind it, and enough options of ports and configurations that it fits their work / business, 3-4 year old components, being sold at Today's prices is frustrating. hence the complaints that they haven't updated the rMBP lineup. These complaints are entirely justifiable.
and now that they are updating, and rumours are out (these are just discussions based on rumour / speculation at this point), there's serious concern that Apple is going to do the same thing they did with their other PC products. Remove features and functionality in order to be "thinner". They did it with the iMac, They've done it with the Mac Mini, they did it with the Mac Pro. So yes, there are people worried, and complaining that the so called "work horse" Macbook Pro is going to receive the same neutering that every other apple computer has received over the last revisions.
So while your post seems very antagonistic, and sounds like you think everyone should just shut up and swallow whatever Apple sells like good little robots, you have to understand that over the last couple Apple PC revisions, Apple has moved further away from the core group of people who used to buy their "Pro" devices, and have made them more geared at the average user, and not those looking for that work horse.
I think people would have less concerns / complaints if this wasn't the "MacBook Pro". But having that "Pro" in the title implies certain things to users. That the device will be usable in production workloads. be consistent in performance. Offer enough, and varied expand-ability to allow for multiple different workflows and usability. This is more than just a few USB-C ports and dongles. this is the capability of the hardware from natively being able to handle these different workloads, while also providing some ability to scale up (replaceable drives, memory, etc). If Apple goes down the route of further limiting the MacBook Pro's capability to make it thinner, then many of the complaints in this thread are 100% entirely valid, whether it applies to you or not. Many of these decisions that have been made in the last 5 years feel more like Apple is putting profit margins first, before trying to actually provide a top tier product.
Gonna be an expensive end to the year. iPhone 7, Apple Watch 2 and a new MacBook Pro.
So Gurman says the new MBPs aren't scheduled to be announced at the same event as the new iPhones. If it's a complete redesign then I can't imagine it just being an update via press release. Perhaps Apple is planning two events then? One for iPhone and Watch and another for Mac and iPad?
Didn't Apple JUST tell us we don't need computers?![]()
If it's gonna be Pro, let's hope they put in the 50 cents worth of chips from the iPad Pro and a sim to let you run iPad apps. I hate carrying an iPad AND a MacBook Pro on travel, and it makes no sense...
This is unfolding as I expected.
A lot of MR forum posts are going to look comically wrong soon, claim chowder will be tasty.
You may end up being right, but Apple has always preferred the forceful approach to change user habits. I remember all the angst around the removal of the DVD drive --- "How will I reinstall my software?!?" --- people asked. Apple's response was buy a $79 external SuperDrive if you need it that badly, or find an older Mac with a SuperDrive and you can install on another over a local network. That was it.I think they will include a legacy USB-A port in a Macbook Pro. Too many things, including the charging cable of your iPhone/iPad, stick into that port. Sneaker Net transfer using a USB storage device is also a common need. Since there is lots of room on a Macbook Pro for ports, there should be at least one of these.
Yeah I don't get that either. Where is the Esc key? How can I compile my code in IntelliJ without Fn keys?
I can't wait for Optane since it will mean more storage and hopefully lower costs (unless Apple decide to charge the same).So Intel's Optane 3D SSD is coming out at the end of the year. Guessing it hits mass market by early 2017. Chances are Apple won't have this for a while. You want me to pay $600 for a 1TB SSD upgrade, and another $600 for a 16GB ram upgrade...when storage that's an order of magnitude faster and larger is around the corner? I don't think so.
You may end up being right, but Apple has always preferred the forceful approach to change user habits. I remember all the angst around the removal of the DVD drive --- "How will I reinstall my software?!?" --- people asked. Apple's response was buy a $79 external SuperDrive if you need it that badly, or find an older Mac with a SuperDrive and you can install on another over a local network. That was it.
iOS devices are almost totally self sufficient now and almost never need to be connected to iTunes. Charging an iPhone on a slow USB-A connection from your MacBook Pro is also somewhat of a niche task that I doubt would prevent Apple from saying - Here's our $19 USB-C to USB-A adapter (or a Lightening to USB-C cord) if you really need to charge your iPhone on your new 2016 MacBook Pro. I'd prepare for USB-C only as the most likely scenario.
What about tim cooks pc replacement comment
“I think if you’re looking at a PC, why would you buy a PC anymore? No really, why would you buy one?”
Yes, the iPad Pro is a replacement for a notebook or a desktop for many, many people
. -Tim Cook
The complaints aren't 100% valid, they are only valid in the minds of people who seem to be hankering after a machine from five years ago.
Notebooks like the Macbook Pro just don't offer, replaceable memory/drives anymore. This isn't just a direction Apple is heading in the whole industry is headed that way. Look at the "top tier" Windows machines for example..
Dell XPS Line - RAM can be upgraded on the 15 inch but is soldered on to the motherboard on the 13 inch, no optical drive, no removable battery.
Microsoft Surface Book - Soldered on RAM, no removable battery, no optical drive.
ASUS Zenbook - Soldered on RAM, no removable battery, no optical drive.
HP Spectre - Soldered on RAM, no removable battery, no optical drive.
So generally speaking the top tier Windows notebooks don't offer any more upgradeability then the Macbook lineup. Notebooks that are modular are practically a thing of the past, maybe it isn't consumer friendly but thats progress.
Its a nonsense to say that these machines aren't serviceable to professional users. Most professional users would be fine with any of these machines and indeed the current notebooks in the Mac line up. Theres nothing to suggest that the next Macbook Pro won't at least match the performance of the current models.
Good for you. Old Macbook Pro, iPhone 6+ and no Apple Watch for me it seems. I'm tired of the AppleMon Go game. Where's the nearest power socket? Gotta catch them all to survive through the work day!
Apple is so late to the party, just release the MacBook Pro in the Apple Store. We don't need a "next big thing" event to talk about a thing that is years late in arriving. We don't need to delay an event so it does not take away from the PR value of the new iPhones. iPhones are the Apple's honey, sure make a big event for them, just release the Mac Pro as soon as possible.