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Still 1.83Ghz and the 15th. Was told by the rep that it would change by end of day.
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Still 1.83Ghz and the 15th. Was told by the rep that it would change by end of day.
JJTiger1 said:
Do you know there's a new Dell Inspiron E1705 that comes with a Core Duo processor? I priced out the following E1705:
Intel Core Duo Processor T2600 2.16Ghz
17 inch UltraSharp Wide Screen UXGA Display (1920 x 1200)
2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz
256MB NVIDA® GeForce Go 7800
100GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
8x CD/DVD burner (dual layer writing capable)
3 Year Limited Warranty plus 3 Year At-Home Service plus Nights and Weekend
Total cost: $3646 - $250 rebate = $3396
Higher resolution screen (albeit it's 17"), faster discrete graphics solution...sorry to break it to you, but the "Dull" is still cheaper.
This is great news, good job Apple. I think this is a great way for Apple to thank their customers for ordering the MacBook Pro when it was announced. This is great PR and lets customers know that Apple is committed to providing a great value for the money thier customers spend.
I think the option to upgrade to a 2.16 Dual Core processor will give consumers additional incentive to make the switch.
I think that we'll see the Dual Core 1.67 processors show up in the next Mac mini as Apple was probably demonstrating to Intel that demand exists in the market for its computers. For that reason, Apple was able to get better pricing from Intel on the faster chips and hence could upgrade the processors on the MacBooks.
It's a great way for Apple and Intel to begin the relationship.
I think the option to upgrade to a 2.16 Dual Core processor will give consumers additional incentive to make the switch.
I think that we'll see the Dual Core 1.67 processors show up in the next Mac mini as Apple was probably demonstrating to Intel that demand exists in the market for its computers. For that reason, Apple was able to get better pricing from Intel on the faster chips and hence could upgrade the processors on the MacBooks.
It's a great way for Apple and Intel to begin the relationship.
Apple won't go Duo with ibooks
ibook, macbook, macbook mini, ibookmac or whatever....it is not gonna have duo at 1.83 or 1.67 ghz.
it will probably have core solo at around 1.5ghz. Apple always does something to persuade buyers to buy higher end models, not lower end models.
$240 processor in a $999 laptop? I don't think so.
if Apple does indeed go with $240 processor in a $999 laptop, then they will seriously skimp on other stuff such as
no fire-wire (since all new ipods do not support it)
60gb hard drive max
pretty putrid video resolution (1280 x 768 widescreen at max)
512mb ram
I will bet that they do not go with core duo at the launch.....later they will put it in when the price drops to around $150.
ibook, macbook, macbook mini, ibookmac or whatever....it is not gonna have duo at 1.83 or 1.67 ghz.
it will probably have core solo at around 1.5ghz. Apple always does something to persuade buyers to buy higher end models, not lower end models.
$240 processor in a $999 laptop? I don't think so.
if Apple does indeed go with $240 processor in a $999 laptop, then they will seriously skimp on other stuff such as
no fire-wire (since all new ipods do not support it)
60gb hard drive max
pretty putrid video resolution (1280 x 768 widescreen at max)
512mb ram
I will bet that they do not go with core duo at the launch.....later they will put it in when the price drops to around $150.
I just called Apple and asked about upgrading my shipping. The Customer Service Rep transferred me over to the "solutions" dept.
I talked to the rep about upgrading my shipping from standard to 2-day. The following exchange occured:
Apple Sol. Rep: I don't know why you would want to do that. When a new product comes out they all get Fed-Exed from China on the same shipping type.
Me: Oh really? So there's no sense in me upgrading...
Apple Sol. Rep: That's correct. They will all ship overnight.
Me: So when is my order due to go out? My est. shipping date is still 2/15 with delievery by the 23rd, I haven't recieved any emails, and my card hasn't been charged.
Apple Sol. Rep:Your card will be charged when it ships tomorrow.
Me: It's shipping tomorrow? Are you sure?
Apple Sol. Rep: I can confirm that your's will ship tomorrow. It's been slated to go out on overnight air.
Me: So when will I recieve it?
Apple Sol. Rep: Thursday, or Friday at the latest.
So that's it. For clarity purposes, I originally ordered on the January 12th, and it was a 1.83 with a 7200 HD and 2GB RAM. This has been upgraded to 2.0, but I have not recieved any updates from Apple.
I talked to the rep about upgrading my shipping from standard to 2-day. The following exchange occured:
Apple Sol. Rep: I don't know why you would want to do that. When a new product comes out they all get Fed-Exed from China on the same shipping type.
Me: Oh really? So there's no sense in me upgrading...
Apple Sol. Rep: That's correct. They will all ship overnight.
Me: So when is my order due to go out? My est. shipping date is still 2/15 with delievery by the 23rd, I haven't recieved any emails, and my card hasn't been charged.
Apple Sol. Rep:Your card will be charged when it ships tomorrow.
Me: It's shipping tomorrow? Are you sure?
Apple Sol. Rep: I can confirm that your's will ship tomorrow. It's been slated to go out on overnight air.
Me: So when will I recieve it?
Apple Sol. Rep: Thursday, or Friday at the latest.
So that's it. For clarity purposes, I originally ordered on the January 12th, and it was a 1.83 with a 7200 HD and 2GB RAM. This has been upgraded to 2.0, but I have not recieved any updates from Apple.
I wish they would take my order!!!!
I couldn't resist a 1.83GHz MBP and ordered one as soon as it was announced.
I really wanted a speed boost from my 2 year old 1.5GHz 17inch PB - so was delighted to see the speed bumps today. I wanted to change my order to the 2.16GHz model - but I'm in the UK - and speaking to the Apple store - they don't yet know whether they can order the speed bumped model. As of 18:40 GMT the UK website has not been updated and is still showing the 1.67 and 1.83 models.
Kudos Apple for uping the speed on these babies - but alas once again Apple's second class customer service outside the US means a long wait for the fastest MBP for me!
I couldn't resist a 1.83GHz MBP and ordered one as soon as it was announced.
I really wanted a speed boost from my 2 year old 1.5GHz 17inch PB - so was delighted to see the speed bumps today. I wanted to change my order to the 2.16GHz model - but I'm in the UK - and speaking to the Apple store - they don't yet know whether they can order the speed bumped model. As of 18:40 GMT the UK website has not been updated and is still showing the 1.67 and 1.83 models.
Kudos Apple for uping the speed on these babies - but alas once again Apple's second class customer service outside the US means a long wait for the fastest MBP for me!
mitaiwan82 said:
Help me out here:
- Does the Dell config include 3 years of anti-virus software?
- Say I'm a college student. Then I will need XP Pro. Is that included?
- Say I do a wee bit of video editing. Then I should have a firewire port. Is that included? How about a nice little easy to use video editing program?
I guess my final question is "cheaper" for whom?
I think in a way it would make sense to put a core duo in the next iBook revision rather than holding onto firewire ports. Apple needs to convince PC users that the system is not underpowered. So many computer users don't have any use for firewire, let alone even know what it is. For the most part, only semi-pro users will make use of the firewire ports, so why not leave that to the higher end systems? Firewire is the most important for using external HDs and burners and for video (and now audio) uses, things that someone buying a lower end laptop is less likely to have a need for. The iBook and mac mini will need the faster processors if they want to have any potential for gaming and for front row applications, but what would you need firewire for?
Of course they're still probably not going to do it.
Of course they're still probably not going to do it.
guffman said:
I've often heard no matter what shipping you use, it's going to be 2 day no matter if you pay for it or not.
I'm off Thursday through Sunday....c'mon Apple give me a new toy!
Sure it's cheaper, but not $1000 cheaper like some would have you think. It's only ~200 cheaper. I think that can easily be justified with all the extras that MBP has.mitaiwan82 said:
Faster updates
According to Intel's roadmap these Duo Cores will be at 2.5GHZ by June and 2.8GHZ by October.
I would expect the next bump in speed to be at those times. Nice thing about MacTel is we can see the speed bumps coming.
Apple has a huge supplier who updates fast and must do it to keep things even with the WinTel world or if they fall behind it would be obvious and there would be no "we have a different architecture argument." Now you can look at the latest processor on a Dell and Apple will have to be at the same speed for marketing reasons as well as value reasons.
Wow isn't it great not to have PowerPC and wait a year for a little bump!!
According to Intel's roadmap these Duo Cores will be at 2.5GHZ by June and 2.8GHZ by October.
I would expect the next bump in speed to be at those times. Nice thing about MacTel is we can see the speed bumps coming.
Apple has a huge supplier who updates fast and must do it to keep things even with the WinTel world or if they fall behind it would be obvious and there would be no "we have a different architecture argument." Now you can look at the latest processor on a Dell and Apple will have to be at the same speed for marketing reasons as well as value reasons.
Wow isn't it great not to have PowerPC and wait a year for a little bump!!
Unknown Shipping date for MacBook 1.67 ->1.83
Just called Apple to check the shipping date on my order for a 1.67Ghz MacBook Pro (now a 1.83Ghz as confirmed by the rep).
Rep said that the 1.67GHz upgrades will delay shipping. I've had a Feb 15th shipping date since ordering. She couldn't give a new date.
She said that Apple won't know the shipping dates for the 1.67 models until tomorrow, 15th.
I can't wait to get it in my hands, but the speed upgrade seems worth a few days to a week delay. (I'll just keep playing with the Intel iMac they already sent.)
Just called Apple to check the shipping date on my order for a 1.67Ghz MacBook Pro (now a 1.83Ghz as confirmed by the rep).
Rep said that the 1.67GHz upgrades will delay shipping. I've had a Feb 15th shipping date since ordering. She couldn't give a new date.
She said that Apple won't know the shipping dates for the 1.67 models until tomorrow, 15th.
I can't wait to get it in my hands, but the speed upgrade seems worth a few days to a week delay. (I'll just keep playing with the Intel iMac they already sent.)
TyleRomeo said:
Yes and I'm soon going to be getting a 4Ghz MacBook Pro in the mail. CPU's don't work like that.
I also have a 1.83 ordered 1/10 that just got pushed back to the 23rd. I'm hoping this is because it just hasn't been auto-upgraded to 2.0 yet, and they automatically bumped the ship dates on all the 1.67 -> 1.83 orders to the 23rd, and since mine is still listed as 1.83, it fell into that category. Wishful thinking. 
Again, it's 320 mhz total but 160+160 does not equal a 320mhz performance bump.TyleRomeo said:
Same way dual 2 Ghz does not = 4 Ghz.
ibook30 said:It's Finally Powerboko Tuesd,,, er Doh- MacBook Pro Tuesday??
Doesn't roll off the tongue quite as nicely- but it'll do.
But Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
For all those thinking of spending $270 (edu price) to upgrade to the 2.16: in 6 months or so, you'll be able to get a faster chip for the same price. And since the Intel iMacs have socketed chips, I'll bet so do the MBPs. It's just not worth it, especially with the same FSB.