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MacBook Pro Now Shipping Plus Speed Bump

Nope...

JJTiger1 said:
MacBook Pro: (667 FSB)
... extra $300 to get 2.16 GHZ (Core DUO)
... extra $300 to get total 2 GB ram
... extra $100 to get the proper 100 gig 7200 rpm hard drive
... extra $349 for AppleCare 3 year warranty

Bottom line:

$3548
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Highest end Dull: $3781
2.26 GHZ, 2 gig ram, 60 gig 7200 RPM hard drive, 2 year warranty.
533 MHZ FSB, single processor.

100 GB 7200 RPM hard drive: $270

$4051
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Nope. Try the Acer 8204WLMi. Same price and video card as the $2500 MacBook, but includes 2GB RAM and a better screen for the same price. Plus it has a 1.3MP cam that can rotate around so you can webcast what you're looking at.

A more accurate comparison would be to the Dell 9400. A 17" 9400 with a 1920x1200 screen, Bluetooth, 1GB RAM, GeForce 7800 video card and T2500 processor will cost you about $2500, and even less depending on your coupon (snagged one last week for $2100). And, I'm sorry, will embarass any other notebook on the market right now, including the MacBook, mainly due to the video card. It's not as portable or shiny as the Mac Book, and if OS X is your cup of tea, obviously that's the better choice.

By the by, business owners will never switch to Mac while Steve's megalomania is steering the ship. That's why there isn't a single decent multi-user accounting system or groupware suite available for OS X. I personally like OS X better than windows, but you can't expect a product that requires a long development cycle to consider the moving target that is OS X.
 
Gasu E. said:
Help me out here:

- Does the Dell config include 3 years of anti-virus software?

- Say I'm a college student. Then I will need XP Pro. Is that included?

- Say I do a wee bit of video editing. Then I should have a firewire port. Is that included? How about a nice little easy to use video editing program?

I guess my final question is "cheaper" for whom?
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Thats what i meant about it being Dull!
 
gammamonk said:
When I was a student, I got the Student Developer discount on my Powerbook, Spend $100 to get in, get $500 off your notebook. I wish I was still a student. I want one of these BAD.
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Is the Student Developer discount more than the regular sudent discount?
 
artifex said:
But Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

For all those thinking of spending $270 (edu price) to upgrade to the 2.16: in 6 months or so, you'll be able to get a faster chip for the same price. And since the Intel iMacs have socketed chips, I'll bet so do the MBPs. It's just not worth it, especially with the same FSB.
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Keeping in mind you will void your warrantee by doing a CPU upgrade and what with this being a first gen Intel MacBook going warranteeless isn't really a smart move. Personally I'm going to wait at least a year and a half before I even consider cracking the case to upgrade. Make sure all the bugs are worked out. The hard drive is another matter. From what I understand you can have Apple upgrade your HD for you in store without killing your warrantee.
 
Overclocking & Upgrading

Given that we haven't yet seen the inside of the Mac Book Pro, do any of the techies out there know anything about the following:

1. is it possible to do a CPU swap on this MB when the 2.5, 2.8 and 3.0ghz chips are out?

2. what is involved in overclocking a Duo, burried inside a Mac Book Pro.
 
sammyg said:
Here there is a discussion about the value of the few 1.67 ones what do you think?
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Would you quit spamming the damn boards already? There's NO discussion there about anything, it looks like you're just trying to get more hits for your crappy blog.
 
kjs862 said:
Is the Student Developer discount more than the regular sudent discount?
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Yes it is but in the end you only save about $100 and you have to cancel your order and then redo your order. I wasted about an hour and half of my day today by trying to do that. You have to sign up for the developer thingy with the student discount for $100 and then you have to cancel your existing order and order it through the developer store. I ordered mine on Jan 10th and they told me i would have to cancel my existing order after I paid my $100 for the developer membership. Lets just say i was pissed.
 
artifex said:
But Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

For all those thinking of spending $270 (edu price) to upgrade to the 2.16: in 6 months or so, you'll be able to get a faster chip for the same price. And since the Intel iMacs have socketed chips, I'll bet so do the MBPs. It's just not worth it, especially with the same FSB.
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What the hell is soylent green day?
 
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Just spoke to Apple UK with regards to the 1.83 MBP I ordered within minutes of the keynote, he confirmed the upgrade to 2.0 Ghz, but also said that the earliest I would get it would be the 6th Mar. and the latest would be the 10th. So much for shipping now!
 
zuckthetree said:
Given that we haven't yet seen the inside of the Mac Book Pro, do any of the techies out there know anything about the following:

1. is it possible to do a CPU swap on this MB when the 2.5, 2.8 and 3.0ghz chips are out?
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*shrugs* depends on the firmware. If Apple has locked EFI into a specific speed or set of speeds (iMac.) then it may simply not boot after a certain speed. Then again it may boot. But similar to the answer below you need to extraordinarily careful about thermal issues on the thing. I would say you prob don't want to go above 2.25Ghz on that thing at most. But if Merom is compatible with the MBP you may be able to drop in a 2.5Ghz that consumes the same wattage as the 2Ghz. Basically it’s way too soon to tell.



2. what is involved in overclocking a Duo, burried inside a Mac Book Pro.
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Even if you could....don't. You WILL regret it. Apple designs their laptops for a certain temp envelope. OCing a MBP, even if you could, could very well cause it to overheat and do VERY bad things to its internal components along with making the overall system completely unstable. This isn't a desktop where you can simply add another fan. Laptops in the 1" range were never designed to go above a certain temp. Or if they do not without major case redesigns.
 
i wouldn't do it.

zuckthetree said:
Given that we haven't yet seen the inside of the Mac Book Pro, do any of the techies out there know anything about the following:

1. is it possible to do a CPU swap on this MB when the 2.5, 2.8 and 3.0ghz chips are out?

2. what is involved in overclocking a Duo, burried inside a Mac Book Pro.
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technically u could but it would toast your computer and IMO it's not worth the try.

overclocking a laptop processor is never a good idea because cooling is difficult to do.
 
berkleeboy210 said:
Here we go:
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When did you order your laptop?

People PLEASE post more information then just bitching about it being delayed. Date of purchase and location if your info isn't filled in under your avatar.
 
JJTiger1 said:
Okay, all of you lab rats. Compare the MacBook Pro 2.16 to the Dull XPS M170.

Use only Universal applications on the Mac Intel. No Rosetta emulation.
... we already know that Rosetta slows everything.
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Can't do this, of course, but I have compared compiling the same Java project on my 17" Intel iMac (1.83GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM) to my Dell D810 laptop (2.26GHz Pentium-M, 2GB RAM, virus and spyware checker on, disk indexing service off). The Java compile process (javac) is not multiprocessor aware, i.e. the max CPU usage is 100%, so this compares just a single core on the iMac.

Compile time, nothing else running:
Dell D810 running WinXP: 20s
Dell D810 running Fedora Core 3 Linux: 13s
iMac Core Duo: 13s

Compile time while importing a CD into iTunes (can't test on Linux obviously):
Dell D810 running WinXP: 2m 40s (i.e. 8x longer)
iMac Core duo: 15s (i.e. 2 seconds longer)

So you would see similar results on the MacBook Pro.
 
SiliconAddict said:
*shrugs* depends on the firmware. If Apple has locked EFI into a specific speed or set of speeds (iMac.) then it may simply not boot after a certain speed. Then again it may boot. But similar to the answer below you need to extraordinarily careful about thermal issues on the thing. I would say you prob don't want to go above 2.25Ghz on that thing at most. But if Merom is compatible with the MBP you may be able to drop in a 2.5Ghz that consumes the same wattage as the 2Ghz. Basically it’s way too soon to tell.





Even if you could....don't. You WILL regret it. Apple designs their laptops for a certain temp envelope. OCing a MBP, even if you could, could very well cause it to overheat and do VERY bad things to its internal components along with making the overall system completely unstable. This isn't a desktop where you can simply add another fan. Laptops in the 1" range were never designed to go above a certain temp. Or if they do not without major case redesigns.
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Thanks! Those are great answers!
 
syklee26 said:
$240 processor in a $999 laptop? I don't think so.
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Apple pays less than that. And they likely won't put it in the $999, but there's also an ibook at $1299 (same price as the iMac...which has the $240 chip).

Gasu E. said:
Help me out here:

- Does the Dell config include 3 years of anti-virus software?

- Say I'm a college student. Then I will need XP Pro. Is that included?

- Say I do a wee bit of video editing. Then I should have a firewire port. Is that included? How about a nice little easy to use video editing program?
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It includes Media Center and one firewire port. Don't know about virus software. Couldn't you just look that up, you're on the internet, right?
 
Ah yes, here is the kicker. :(

If you decide you'd like to make a change to your upgraded MacBook Pro order,
we're happy to help. You may reach us at at 1-800-676-2775, Mon-Fri 7 am-10 pm
and 9 am-6 pm Sat-Sun (Central). Some change requests may extend your shipment
date slightly. If we do not hear from you by February 18th, we will ship the
MacBook Pro 2.0Ghz Intel Core Duo.
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MBPRO 15/1.83 CTO
1GB 667 DDR2- 1 SO-DIMM
120GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600-256M
BkLit Keyboard/Mac OS
Airport Extreme Card&BT

Ship on or before 2-15, ordered Jan 18th.9:22am PST

Have a few hours left to talk myself out of the 2.16

$270 (edu price) is a lot for 160mhz.

Got the 1GB only because Apple was charging $270 for another 1GB, a real rip-off.
 
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