MacBook Pro NVIDIA Chips Affected Too by Failures?

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    The Inquirer speculates that all G84 and G86 graphics chips are affected by the GPU failures announced by NVIDIA earlier this month.

    According to NVIDIA a significant quantity of NVIDIA chips have been failing at higher than normal rates but has not yet provided a breakdown of affected products.

    The Inquirer believes that chips used in the G84 and G86 models of video cards are affected, despite NVIDIA's reassurances that only a small batch has been affected:
    They do believe that notebooks are far more likely to be affected due to the constant powering up and down of their chips.

    Apple's MacBook Pro currently uses the NVIDIA 8600M GT. This graphics chipset is amongst those listed by The Inquirer as affected. No official confirmation is yet available.

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  2. noodle654 macrumors 68020


    Jun 2, 2005
    Never Ender
    #2 how about nVidia says it?
  3. kornyboy macrumors 68000

    Sep 27, 2004
    Knoxville, TN (USA)
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    Have any MBP users here experienced a failure?
  4. fuziwuzi macrumors regular

    Nov 29, 2007
    Bris, Australia
    i had a MBP that has just been taken back for replacement due to wireless problems. it never seemed to have video card problems, though it did get the lines on the LCD, but only a few times.

    does anyone know if nvidia/apple are still shipping gpus/macs with broken video cards?
  5. apearlman macrumors regular

    Aug 8, 2007
    Red Hook, NY
    Which macs have this card?

    Can anyone definitively list which Macs have these cards? Or point to such a listing? Is it only MacBook Pros?
  6. fuziwuzi macrumors regular

    Nov 29, 2007
    Bris, Australia
    "The fact is, GeForce 8600 (G84) and GeForce 8500 (G86)" - these are the cards, therefore only macbook pro.
  7. Orre macrumors newbie

    Oct 25, 2007
    inquier is so full of bs... I say wait for the official answer!
  8. godfreyhk macrumors member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Correct me if I am wrong... but isn't that Inquier blog post already like 2 weeks old? :confused:
  9. fuziwuzi macrumors regular

    Nov 29, 2007
    Bris, Australia
    why do people always say stuff like that for page 2 news :/ it's page 2 for a reason
  10. itopy macrumors newbie

    Jul 21, 2008
    Mines fine(knock on wood)

    My MBP competes well against my friends PC gaming machines. No problems yet and I have fully tested it with real world gaming and video encoding. :apple:
  11. Monkeyoe macrumors newbie

    Jul 21, 2008
    So far no problems here, although I did hear some people having stuff like this.
  12. Beric macrumors 68020


    Jan 22, 2008
    Bay Area
    At, I'm guessing, twice the price of your friends' gaming machines.
  13. Auzburner macrumors 65816


    Apr 11, 2008
    Syracuse, NY - USA
    What will Apple do if there is an all out recall? Will they simply refund the price and take the defective computer back? Replace the GPU in all of the effected units? Or replace them all? What is the usual in this situation?
  14. awulf macrumors 6502

    Mar 1, 2002
    South Australia
    My MacBook Pro hasn't had any graphics issues, only white spots appearing on the screen, had the LCD replaced twice.
  15. cubedweller macrumors 6502

    Nov 25, 2007
    Is this related?

    Hello all,

    I have a SR 2.4GHz MBP. Sometimes I use my laptop to watch TV from at night as I do not have a TV near my bed -- however, nearly every time, when I wake it up in the morning, the screen is all blurred and it appaers that the colors all ran together on the screen -- it also appears that the computer never went to sleep (even after the TV show ended and there was no activity) -- basically, the screen looks all distorted and the battery is completely dead. I've verified my settings and it it supposed to shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity -- it works fine when it's on my desk, plugged in or not, but whenever I watch a movie or TV show when it isn't plugged in, if I don't manually close the browser and put the computer to sleep, it won't sleep and the screen gets all messed up.

    Has anyone else experienced this?

    Should I have Apple take a look at it? Part of the reason I've never brought it in is it seems to take a few hours to reproduce this problem -- it's awfully hard to have that occur at the exact moment I see a "Genius".

    Any input would be great.

  16. FocusAndEarnIt macrumors 601


    May 29, 2005
    There are tons of issues with macbook pro's with the 8600 having scrambled text, etc being displayed.

    i am one of them. two machines i have had that have 8600's in them have done that. also, 2 of my friends have had the same thing happen to them.

    the 8600 is ****, i'm sorry, but it simply sucks.
  17. superleccy macrumors 6502a


    Oct 31, 2004
    That there big London
    Yes. Me. :(

    My MBP (see sig - 8600M) is in the Apple Shop having its logic board replaced now.

    The machine suddenly decided to stop producing a display - either on the built-in screen or on any external display. Other that that, the machine works fine. I was able to access it in Target Disk Mode.

    Are these the symptoms that are consistent with the Nvidia faliures being reported on?

  18. dblissmn macrumors 6502

    Apr 30, 2002
    I can certainly believe this report, although the one thing that makes me a bit skeptical is the idea that ALL parts would be affected, rather than MOST.

    Here's why.

    Every MBP I saw in the store ran the GPU at a good ten degrees Celsius higher in iStat than the CPU. Some were even worse.

    Mine, however, runs both at the same temperature -- pretty close to the temperature you'd generally expect to see the processor at. That's despite the fact that my most common configuration is as a desktop replacement, connected to a 1920x1200 monitor, so the chip is getting a fair workout.

    One other thing. Why is it that whenever I launch iStat pro for the first time, it puts the text up on screen in horribly jumbled fashion, straight on the desktop, and then redraws it properly into the iStat box? It does this EVERY time on first launch after boot. Never on subsequent launch. Disagreement between iStat and the 8600 perhaps?

    If mine fails, it will be one of the last to go, I would think.
  19. djgold macrumors newbie

    Jul 13, 2008
    I think nVidia has been too vague to be certain of anything. As for the Inquirer, your quote is accurate, but they never claimed that it was .only. those chips. If you were on the staff of the Inquirer what would you report on: an entire line of recent chips gone bad while still under the standard warranty, or slightly higher rates of failure in 2-year-old discontinued powerbooks?
  20. tgildred macrumors 6502

    May 1, 2007
    I don't think that was his point. Pricing is a whole other discussion.
  21. dlucks macrumors newbie


    Jul 7, 2007
    Fully Tested

    Translation....avid porn viewer :D
  22. kolax macrumors G3

    Mar 20, 2007
    I've experienced stupidly hot temperatures while doing heavy GPU related stuff over the past couple of months, and I'm starting to think it might be down to this fault.

    I hope there is an official statement from nVidia soon, and what Apple is going to do, because I don't want to have to wait until my GPU fails to find out.
  23. louelou21 macrumors newbie

    Nov 22, 2007
    I also have the 15" MBP 2.4Ghz SR and it also decided to stop producing a display. I had it for 11 months with no issues whatsoever, then out of no where there is no display. Got that fixed then about 10 days after getting it back from the repair center it decides to once again produce no display so I had to send it in for repair a second time within a 2 week period. Now I've had it back for about a month now and so far its working fine.
  24. fuziwuzi macrumors regular

    Nov 29, 2007
    Bris, Australia
    i was simply replying to the post above requesting info on those cards gpu numbers, and macs that contained them. no will know the truth about affect cards until nvidia makes an announcement.
  25. superleccy macrumors 6502a


    Oct 31, 2004
    That there big London
    Yikes! :eek:

    Mine was 11 and a half months old.

    I hope mine doesn't go wrong again after this!!!

    Good luck

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