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The Inquirer speculates that all G84 and G86 graphics chips are affected by the GPU failures announced by NVIDIA earlier this month.

According to NVIDIA a significant quantity of NVIDIA chips have been failing at higher than normal rates but has not yet provided a breakdown of affected products.

The Inquirer believes that chips used in the G84 and G86 models of video cards are affected, despite NVIDIA's reassurances that only a small batch has been affected:
The short story is that all the G84 and G86 parts are bad. Period. No exceptions. All of them, mobile and desktop, use the exact same ASIC, so expect them to go south in inordinate numbers as well.
They do believe that notebooks are far more likely to be affected due to the constant powering up and down of their chips.

Apple's MacBook Pro currently uses the NVIDIA 8600M GT. This graphics chipset is amongst those listed by The Inquirer as affected. No official confirmation is yet available.

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The Inquirer speculates that all G84 and G86 graphics chips are affected by the GPU failures announced by NVIDIA earlier this month.

According to NVIDIA a significant quantity of NVIDIA chips have been failing at higher than normal rates but has not yet provided a breakdown of affected products.

The Inquirer believes that chips used in the G84 and G86 models of video cards are affected, despite NVIDIA's reassurances that only a small batch has been affected:They do believe that notebooks are far more likely to be affected due to the constant powering up and down of their chips.

Apple's MacBook Pro currently uses the NVIDIA 8600M GT. This graphics chipset is amongst those listed by The Inquirer as affected. No official confirmation is yet available.

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Sweet...now how about nVidia says it?
 

kornyboy

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Have any MBP users here experienced a failure?
 

fuziwuzi

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i had a MBP that has just been taken back for replacement due to wireless problems. it never seemed to have video card problems, though it did get the lines on the LCD, but only a few times.

does anyone know if nvidia/apple are still shipping gpus/macs with broken video cards?
 

apearlman

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Which macs have this card?

Can anyone definitively list which Macs have these cards? Or point to such a listing? Is it only MacBook Pros?
 

itopy

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Mines fine(knock on wood)

My MBP competes well against my friends PC gaming machines. No problems yet and I have fully tested it with real world gaming and video encoding. :apple:
 

Beric

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My MBP competes well against my friends PC gaming machines. No problems yet and I have fully tested it with real world gaming and video encoding. :apple:

At, I'm guessing, twice the price of your friends' gaming machines.
 

Auzburner

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What will Apple do if there is an all out recall? Will they simply refund the price and take the defective computer back? Replace the GPU in all of the effected units? Or replace them all? What is the usual in this situation?
 

cubedweller

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Is this related?

Hello all,

I have a SR 2.4GHz MBP. Sometimes I use my laptop to watch TV from CBS.com at night as I do not have a TV near my bed -- however, nearly every time, when I wake it up in the morning, the screen is all blurred and it appaers that the colors all ran together on the screen -- it also appears that the computer never went to sleep (even after the TV show ended and there was no activity) -- basically, the screen looks all distorted and the battery is completely dead. I've verified my settings and it it supposed to shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity -- it works fine when it's on my desk, plugged in or not, but whenever I watch a movie or TV show when it isn't plugged in, if I don't manually close the browser and put the computer to sleep, it won't sleep and the screen gets all messed up.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Should I have Apple take a look at it? Part of the reason I've never brought it in is it seems to take a few hours to reproduce this problem -- it's awfully hard to have that occur at the exact moment I see a "Genius".

Any input would be great.

Thanks!~
 

FocusAndEarnIt

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There are tons of issues with macbook pro's with the 8600 having scrambled text, etc being displayed.

i am one of them. two machines i have had that have 8600's in them have done that. also, 2 of my friends have had the same thing happen to them.

the 8600 is ****, i'm sorry, but it simply sucks.
 

superleccy

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Have any MBP users here experienced a failure?

Yes. Me. :(

My MBP (see sig - 8600M) is in the Apple Shop having its logic board replaced now.

The machine suddenly decided to stop producing a display - either on the built-in screen or on any external display. Other that that, the machine works fine. I was able to access it in Target Disk Mode.

Are these the symptoms that are consistent with the Nvidia faliures being reported on?

SL
 

dblissmn

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I can certainly believe this report, although the one thing that makes me a bit skeptical is the idea that ALL parts would be affected, rather than MOST.

Here's why.

Every MBP I saw in the store ran the GPU at a good ten degrees Celsius higher in iStat than the CPU. Some were even worse.

Mine, however, runs both at the same temperature -- pretty close to the temperature you'd generally expect to see the processor at. That's despite the fact that my most common configuration is as a desktop replacement, connected to a 1920x1200 monitor, so the chip is getting a fair workout.

One other thing. Why is it that whenever I launch iStat pro for the first time, it puts the text up on screen in horribly jumbled fashion, straight on the desktop, and then redraws it properly into the iStat box? It does this EVERY time on first launch after boot. Never on subsequent launch. Disagreement between iStat and the 8600 perhaps?

If mine fails, it will be one of the last to go, I would think.
 

djgold

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"The fact is, GeForce 8600 (G84) and GeForce 8500 (G86)" - these are the cards, therefore only macbook pro.

I think nVidia has been too vague to be certain of anything. As for the Inquirer, your quote is accurate, but they never claimed that it was .only. those chips. If you were on the staff of the Inquirer what would you report on: an entire line of recent chips gone bad while still under the standard warranty, or slightly higher rates of failure in 2-year-old discontinued powerbooks?
 

dlucks

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Fully Tested

My MBP competes well against my friends PC gaming machines. No problems yet and I have fully tested it with real world gaming and video encoding. :apple:

Translation....avid porn viewer :D
 

kolax

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I've experienced stupidly hot temperatures while doing heavy GPU related stuff over the past couple of months, and I'm starting to think it might be down to this fault.

I hope there is an official statement from nVidia soon, and what Apple is going to do, because I don't want to have to wait until my GPU fails to find out.
 

louelou21

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Yes. Me. :(

My MBP (see sig - 8600M) is in the Apple Shop having its logic board replaced now.

The machine suddenly decided to stop producing a display - either on the built-in screen or on any external display. Other that that, the machine works fine. I was able to access it in Target Disk Mode.

Are these the symptoms that are consistent with the Nvidia faliures being reported on?

SL

I also have the 15" MBP 2.4Ghz SR and it also decided to stop producing a display. I had it for 11 months with no issues whatsoever, then out of no where there is no display. Got that fixed then about 10 days after getting it back from the repair center it decides to once again produce no display so I had to send it in for repair a second time within a 2 week period. Now I've had it back for about a month now and so far its working fine.
 

fuziwuzi

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I think nVidia has been too vague to be certain of anything. As for the Inquirer, your quote is accurate, but they never claimed that it was .only. those chips. If you were on the staff of the Inquirer what would you report on: an entire line of recent chips gone bad while still under the standard warranty, or slightly higher rates of failure in 2-year-old discontinued powerbooks?

i was simply replying to the post above requesting info on those cards gpu numbers, and macs that contained them. no will know the truth about affect cards until nvidia makes an announcement.
 

superleccy

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That there big London
I also have the 15" MBP 2.4Ghz SR and it also decided to stop producing a display. I had it for 11 months with no issues whatsoever, then out of no where there is no display. Got that fixed then about 10 days after getting it back from the repair center it decides to once again produce no display so I had to send it in for repair a second time within a 2 week period. Now I've had it back for about a month now and so far its working fine.
Yikes! :eek:

Mine was 11 and a half months old.

I hope mine doesn't go wrong again after this!!!

Good luck
SL
 
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