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MacBook Pro NVIDIA Chips Affected Too by Failures?

Same issue here

I had my MBP for nearly a year before the display up and died.

Apple replaced the logic board and the LCD and I was up and running in only a few days. I love my Procare!
 
I really hope my machine doesn't die, but I must contend that the GPU always runs hot. The diode temp is around 55-60 deg in Mac OS, but 75 deg in Windows 2008 (doing nothing). I don't remember ATi's mobile parts running that hot while idling. And of course, NVIDIA has neither said nor done anything about this--they just quietly acknowledged that all of our machines (and all the other x86 laptops out there with contemporary NVIDIA GPUs) are ticking time bombs and aren't going to do a bloody thing about it. With some of the really big Dell gaming machines, the GPU comes on a replaceable daughtercard, but anyone with a laptop under 4kg is SOL. I really wish Apple would have gone with ATi--NVIDIA's mobile chips have always sucked in terms of energy efficiency because NVIDIA basically just uses underclocked bin-failed desktop chips for mobile parts--but I think that those days ended with the AMD takeover (Intel would be pissed).

Maybe NVIDIA should stop releasing a bigger, hotter, 1000 Watt, jet-turbine-cooled, big-mo-fo-ho-pro GPU model every other week and focus on getting those chips and drivers to actually work, instead of just theoretically working. In general, computer companies need to learn that when chips run hotter than holy hell, a "cross your fingers and hope nothing blows up" approach is not the way to go. Intel learned that with the Pentium 4 and its 115W thermal output and Microsoft learned it with the Xbox360 "Red Ring of Death."
 
Orre said:
inquier is so full of bs... I say wait for the official answer!
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then you are an idiot for not being resourceful. it's not bs go look it up or call nvdia customer support - they will tell you. if you care enough about the products you own with the slightest possibility of hefty ramifications down the road - you'd take it upon yourself...instead of someone spoon feeding you the information. sheesh.
 
Riemann Zeta said:
I really hope my machine doesn't die, but I must contend that the GPU always runs hot. The diode temp is around 55-60 deg in Mac OS, but 75 deg in Windows 2008 (doing nothing). I don't remember ATi's mobile parts running that hot while idling. And of course, NVIDIA has neither said nor done anything about this--they just quietly acknowledged that all of our machines (and all the other x86 laptops out there with contemporary NVIDIA GPUs) are ticking time bombs and aren't going to do a bloody thing about it. I really wish Apple would have gone with ATi, but I think that those days ended with the AMD takeover (Intel would be pissed).

Maybe NVIDIA should stop releasing a bigger, hotter, 1000 Watt, jet-turbine-cooled, big-mo-fo-ho-pro GPU model every other week and focus on getting those chips and drivers to actually work, instead of just theoretically working. In general, computer companies need to learn that when chips run hotter than holy hell, a "cross your fingers and hope nothing blows up" approach is not the way to go. Intel learned that with the Pentium 4 and its 115W thermal output and Microsoft learned it with the Xbox360 "Red Ring of Death."
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the problem was the quality of the materials - not the overal design of the product. bad batch of materials that made its way into the manufacturing of the cards...oh well.
 
RiCEADDiCTBOY said:
the problem was the quality of the materials - not the overal design of the product. bad batch of materials that made its way into the manufacturing of the cards...oh well.
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Which is basically what happened with the capacitor issue, and will likely be handled in a similar manner by Apple.

Don't think Apple expected to dust off that plan so soon.
 
Glad I didn't buy one back in June. I just hope they release an update sooner rather than latter.
 
superleccy said:
Yes. Me. :(

My MBP (see sig - 8600M) is in the Apple Shop having its logic board replaced now.

The machine suddenly decided to stop producing a display - either on the built-in screen or on any external display. Other that that, the machine works fine. I was able to access it in Target Disk Mode.

Are these the symptoms that are consistent with the Nvidia faliures being reported on?

SL
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I'm in the EXACT same situation.
No display (int. or ext.), TDM ok, computer responding normally to keyboard inputs...
MBP gone to get a new motherboard...
 
For months I am thinking of putting a small marble tablet below.
To dissipate heat.
Too late...
 
My MBP GPU died last week

My MBP 2.6 8 month old MPB died with the black screen of death. The logic board is being replaced. There is a whole thread on similar failures on the apple support forums. When I went to the Apple store for support, the Genius saw 3 other similar failures in the past 2 weeks. He even stated that on my work order. To make matters worse, its taking them 2 weeks to do the repair.
:mad:
 
superleccy said:
Going by my experience, don't expect them to send it back in a hurry. :mad:
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damian67 said:
My MBP 2.6 8 month old MPB died with the black screen of death. The logic board is being replaced. There is a whole thread on similar failures on the apple support forums. When I went to the Apple store for support, the Genius saw 3 other similar failures in the past 2 weeks. He even stated that on my work order. To make matters worse, its taking them 2 weeks to do the repair.
:mad:
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i must be lucky, i have had my machine in for multiple repairs, and instead of trying more repairs they are replacing it. but admitedly i had more than one fault. but it does mean that i won't have to wait for a repair.

does englend have any apple stores, or apple authorised repairers? or does apple repair all your mac but having u ship them back to them
 
Yep.. i've had mine for about 7 months now and i have noticed when i put it's screen next to another something does seem to be wrong the the shades and colours... it's not very noticeable atm through so i haven't taken any further steps.

What should we expect now? Some kind of mass re-call? or at least an effort to fix them?
 
That would explain the wierd graphics glitches i've been having once in a while where the screen would get all.... glitchy... then the whole thing would eventually freeze..... glad to know its not an OS/driver problem..... :(
 
superleccy said:
Yes. Me. :(

My MBP (see sig - 8600M) is in the Apple Shop having its logic board replaced now.

The machine suddenly decided to stop producing a display - either on the built-in screen or on any external display. Other that that, the machine works fine. I was able to access it in Target Disk Mode.

Are these the symptoms that are consistent with the Nvidia faliures being reported on?

SL
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I had the exact same Problem and my logic board was replaced maybe 1 month ago.
 
My first MBP (Late 2007, Merom/Santa Rosa 2.2GHz w/ 8600M GT 128MB VRAM) shows signs of GPU problem after just three months of use (NVChannel(GL) errors, screen freezes, application crashes). 2 months later it started showing even more severe errors (texture corruption). Did a logic board replacement and the same thing showed up 12 hours later after use. After some hubbub with the service centre, the machine was replaced with an Early 2008 model with 256MB VRAM. Although there is no more texture corruption, I am still experiencing various application crashes related to the graphic subsystem.

P/S: I've done clean re-installs, reset SMC, reset P-RAM, repair permissions, fsck, etc.. but the problem still occur intermittently.

Links in my sig lists a gallery of GPU-related errors, and threads in MR of user experiencing similar problems.
 
that suxxs

kornyboy said:
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Have any MBP users here experienced a failure?
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Yes, I'm wandering too (since I might get a "Pro" for my next laptop)...
 
What should we expect now? Some kind of mass re-call? or at least an effort to fix them?
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NVIDIA doesn't really care, so I doubt that they are going to take any direct responsibility. They might start issuing drivers that castrate their mobile GPUs by downclocking them, but they won't be touching any hardware. It will be left to the manufactures to physically repair burnt out GPUs. With my new 2.6 GHz Penryn MBP, I actually bought the AppleCare plan for the first time and I am quite glad that I did. For anyone who didn't, I think you can add AppleCare to a machine during the first 90 days--it might be worth your while. Three years is a nice long time and I'm sure that most of the GPUs will burn out by then, just like most original Xbox360 ATi R500 GPUs will burn out, giving rise to the red ring of death.
 
Riemann Zeta said:
For anyone who didn't, I think you can add AppleCare to a machine during the first 90 days--it might be worth your while.
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You can add it during the first year.

I added it after 11 months. I am now glad I did, because although my MBP was covered by the 1 year warranty (albeit by 1 day!!!), I reckon that as soon as things start to go wrong with a Mac, it's a sign that things are only going to get worse...

SL
 
My MBP is affected by this. Very, very badly. Only had it for 6 months.

Last thing I buy from Nvidia, and seeing as I don't have a choice as to what card I get from Apple, could be my last Mac.

Thing is, it wouldn't be a problem had I built my own PC, as I could replace the card, and most other high end gaming machines have options for different cards, so should one be faulty, I could just return it and request the different card.
 
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