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If Apple offered matte 8-bit IPS displays on their 13" and 15" laptops, would you buy one?

I would.

Meh, it's a laptop. If you need amazing colour accuracy, buy an external monitor.

Sure, who wouldn't want a screen upgrade, but I wouldn't pay an extra $100-$200 for it.
 
Scientific question: Can our eyes even see millions of colors?

Yes, but nowhere close to 16.7 million. I think we can see 2 million colors or something around there.

The difference between a 6-bit and 8-bit display is noticeable though. I think even the original bondi iMac had an 8-bit display.
 
Old News.

Save your fake outrage for next time.

Please don't whine about dithering when you couldn't even tell the difference in the first place.

You think he wrote a 2,000 word blog post because he "couldn't even tell the difference"...???
 
The dirty secret nobody's talking about

The computer manufacturers have been lying to us all along: instead of millions of colors that they claimed, their displays are only capable of displaying three (JUST THREE!) colors: red, green, and blue. You can see that for yourself if you look at the screen surface closely enough, preferably with a magnifying glass.

There they are, the little red green and blue dots, revealed for all to see. The rest of the so called "colors" are produced using a shady (pun!) technique of blending the only three colors with different brightness.

The fact that instead of single million-colored dot we have to put up with three dots of only 512 shades each is absolutely unacceptable. The resulting lack of sharpness and the color halos are easy to see if you just put your nose to the screen.

We should all demand that the misleading advertising is stopped right away, and the cost of the faulty displays reimbursed to every customer.
 
The computer manufacturers have been lying to us all along: instead of millions of colors that they claimed, their displays are only capable of displaying three (JUST THREE!) colors: red, green, and blue. You can see that for yourself if you look at the screen surface closely enough, preferably with a magnifying glass.

There they are, the little red green and blue dots, revealed for all to see. The rest of the so called "colors" are produced using a shady (pun!) technique of blending the only three colors with different brightness.

The fact that instead of single million-colored dot we have to put up with three dots of only 512 shades each is absolutely unacceptable. The resulting lack of sharpness and the color halos are easy to see if you just put your nose to the screen.

We should all demand that the misleading advertising is stopped right away, and the cost of the faulty displays reimbursed to every customer.

Nobody works with their nose on their display.
 
The difference between a 6-bit and 8-bit display is noticeable though. I think even the original bondi iMac had an 8-bit display.

Because it was a CRT....

8 bit LCD's are a lot more difficult to make than 8 bit CRT's. That's why graphics pros were the last to move to LCDs, CRT's have always had, and still have, much better image quality.
 
Nobody works with their nose on their display.

You are missing the point. The current 13" display was shown in practice to have color fidelity on par with the best laptop LCDs ( independent review) The specific technology by which this fidelity was achieved has a purely theoretical importance, and for the vast majority of users remains irrelevant.
 
Meh, it's a laptop. If you need amazing colour accuracy, buy an external monitor.

That's not the point. The point is Apple advertises one thing and then builds and sells another. The buyer bought the laptop with the understanding that it would deliver what they say it will, and yet it doesn't. Plus, they won't even tell a customer who has bought their product what exactly it is that they bought just to cover up their false advertising.

At the very least, they are misleading people even if they aren't straight up lying. Either way it's wrong.
 
I think from the advertising standpoint, apple has done nothing wrong.. With "dithering" (never heard of it haha) the display can achieve millions of colors.

I do agree though that apple should have told you/blog writer what bit the display was right off the bat.
 
Just another blogger craving celebrity. :rolleyes:

I read all this 6-bit panel / 8-bit panel stuff what now seems like two years ago. All laptop manufacturers source their panels from the same OEM's as Apple.

Just hope the blogger can walk the walk - if Apple lawyers knock on his door.
 
You are missing the point. The current 13" display was shown in practice to have color fidelity on par with the best laptop LCDs ( independent review) The specific technology by which this fidelity was achieved has a purely theoretical importance, and for the vast majority of users remains irrelevant.

I think I missed the point because you didn't mention any of this until now.

And if you put your nose up to the 13'' display, you will be able to clearly see the dithering.

Just another blogger craving celebrity. :rolleyes:

I read all this 6-bit panel / 8-bit panel stuff what now seems like two years ago. All laptop manufacturers source their panels from the same OEM's as Apple.

Just hope the blogger can walk the walk - if Apple lawyers knock on his door.

And Apple lawyers would show up because?
 
The human eye can technically see roughly 10 million colors. However, mind you this is at the eye and not the brain. Your brain can compute only a fraction of what is coming through your senses so to say that the brain can understand the 10 million colors is laughable at best. You then take those 10 million colors and take them down to a 13inch laptop and you are way below the 200,000 without dithering.

What is sad is that people need to pull this stuff (both the poster and Apple). If you were a true designer...sorry but you make icons which are rendered by computers with these screens you would realize how absolutely absurd you sound. Your icons are being projected onto or by (however you take it) these monitors so get used to it. Your color WILL be off, no problem, my websites render pretty craptacular in IE6 but you know what? I do not care because people who use IE6 have no clue, fact!

Take a second to breath in, creating icons is cool but they get shown on these "inferior monitors," Apple can be punks because their computers are the benchmark in our field (I do not care what the haters say), and keep the 13 MBP. I have one along with a Uni 17 (March 09') and I love both of them...oh yeah and I design web experiences for peeps and will never go back to an HP or a Dell, not even if you paid me on a monthly basis.
 
Just another blogger craving celebrity. :rolleyes:

I read all this 6-bit panel / 8-bit panel stuff what now seems like two years ago. All laptop manufacturers source their panels from the same OEM's as Apple.

Just hope the blogger can walk the walk - if Apple lawyers knock on his door.

lol what?! Why would anyone from Apple be knocking on his door?
 
And Apple lawyers would show up because?

Not that I'm a legal expert but, libel, comes to mind. And what's the point of blowing up a topic that; anyone who cares, already knows about and it's an industry wide topic not Apple only. Why not sue Microsoft - Windows, on a laptop says it's doing 16.7 million colors; strictly not true. So much whine in these forums sometimes.
 
I don't even think that's his real email and if it was he must be getting tons of OMG I WANT THE IPOD IN BLAH BLAH BLAH COLOR and OMG BLAH BLAH BLAH *CRY* BLAH *SOB* MACBOOK SCREEN.

Rumor has it that it gets you to high-level management.

Not that I'm a legal expert but, libel, comes to mind. And what's the point of blowing up a topic that; anyone who cares, already knows about and it's an industry wide topic not Apple only. Why not sue Microsoft - Windows, on a laptop says it's doing 16.7 million colors; strictly not true. So much whine in these forums sometimes.

It isn't libel. The statement is obviously true.

You're right. There is a lot of whining on here. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/728934/
 
From a past experience, truth is subjective and truth can be strongly bent depending on which side has the better paid lawyers.

Yeah I whine too, but it was more due to my indecision. :eek:

Truth is fact, not subjective, at least to me. There is only one way that the events happened. There is only one truth.

Everyone needs to whine. I just got a bit angry.
 
People need to face the facts that the MBP is just a regular consumer laptop. Maybe apple would fix their laptops if people stopped assuming they were something they werent. I hate it when I see people claim that MBP's have the best screens available when its incredibly untrue. Even Dell offers PROFESSIONAL quality screens in their laptops that are in a different league that apple's mediocre screens.

Apple will likely not change anything until their reputation is known for being some of the worst screens you can get in a laptop. People cant just assume they have good displays because a lot of graphic designers use macs.
 
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