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MacBook Pro Rumor Wrap-Up: Winners and Losers
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Just to defend Kenneth Lund, he was actualy right in some way..
The new MBP's are in stock early next week in Denmark, which was said in the mail..
Denmark is a small country and we are a little late with everything, so he got the Danish launch date right
And just to be clear, there are a few demo models in the stores, but I was told in 3 the differrent stores today, that there's about 3-5 days days delivery time on standard configurations and 14 days if I wanted i.e. anti-glare
The new MBP's are in stock early next week in Denmark, which was said in the mail..
Denmark is a small country and we are a little late with everything, so he got the Danish launch date right
And just to be clear, there are a few demo models in the stores, but I was told in 3 the differrent stores today, that there's about 3-5 days days delivery time on standard configurations and 14 days if I wanted i.e. anti-glare
Lots of good points here, though I can't beleive people are still hung about blu-ray. File it under "who the fvk cares." Way more media is distributed electronically and why would you want to watch a blu-ray on your laptop anyway. On a screen that size its a negligible improvement over DVD. Or, install an after market br drive and get makeMKV. It would cost the same as if apple offered it as an upgrade. C'mon. Get creative.
Also, what was with the SSD boot drive rumor. That is the most stupid idea I have heard in a long time. Talk about adding extra cost for something that would provide virtually no benefit. I'd love to know where that idea actually originated from. Is any other technology company even doing that? Why not just install a hybrid drive. Or better yet, offer a low cost SSD upgrade. Oh wait... they did!
Also, what was with the SSD boot drive rumor. That is the most stupid idea I have heard in a long time. Talk about adding extra cost for something that would provide virtually no benefit. I'd love to know where that idea actually originated from. Is any other technology company even doing that? Why not just install a hybrid drive. Or better yet, offer a low cost SSD upgrade. Oh wait... they did!
Nostradamus is dead
No reason to argue over the accuracy of predictions because no one can foretell the future, even for Mac delivery dates, which are now regarded as "most-likely" and expected within a particular date range. It's a guessing game, more than a revelation, and the winner is always announced after the event. Naturally. It's the same as some forum members here who claim "victory" for saying something first. A waste of everyone else's time.
Yes, you might be able to make a close guess at which websites are the most accurate, perhaps even to the point of reliability. May I ask: So what? Are you going to spend your money in advance for the next computer, or wait until it appears and its innards detailed, and then buy it -- or not?
Somehow, I get enough of a sense from MacRumors, thanks to almost everyone who writes comments. I appreciate your input when it seems to make sense; that doesn't mean I believe it, however, until the future becomes the present. As for the websites that depend on making predictions, true or false, for click-building....
But I'm wasting everyone's time by now.
No reason to argue over the accuracy of predictions because no one can foretell the future, even for Mac delivery dates, which are now regarded as "most-likely" and expected within a particular date range. It's a guessing game, more than a revelation, and the winner is always announced after the event. Naturally. It's the same as some forum members here who claim "victory" for saying something first. A waste of everyone else's time.
Yes, you might be able to make a close guess at which websites are the most accurate, perhaps even to the point of reliability. May I ask: So what? Are you going to spend your money in advance for the next computer, or wait until it appears and its innards detailed, and then buy it -- or not?
Somehow, I get enough of a sense from MacRumors, thanks to almost everyone who writes comments. I appreciate your input when it seems to make sense; that doesn't mean I believe it, however, until the future becomes the present. As for the websites that depend on making predictions, true or false, for click-building....
But I'm wasting everyone's time by now.
Personally, I love this site. It's my home page. I don't care if certain rumors come true or not because, to me, that's not what it's about. It's about ideas, some of which I think are great and some of which I think are terrible.
Some of the good ones don't come true (though I think most of the time, they eventually do). Fortunately, most of the bad one's don't (dedicated ssd system drive - c'mon everyone, what are you going to do when it fills up). I think most of the editorial judgment by macrumors staff is pretty sound for what it is: a rumor mill.
Some of the good ones don't come true (though I think most of the time, they eventually do). Fortunately, most of the bad one's don't (dedicated ssd system drive - c'mon everyone, what are you going to do when it fills up
). I think most of the editorial judgment by macrumors staff is pretty sound for what it is: a rumor mill.
By my reckoning they were all losers this time: either they were wrong or predicted something too obvious to get credit for: sandy bridge? Wow. First half of 2011? You're not out on a limb with these. Your feet are firmly on the ground. At best you're hugging the tree trunk...
Apple's been offering SSD as an option for a while. That rumor never made sense because its a step backwards.
Apple's been offering SSD as an option for a while. That rumor never made sense because its a step backwards.
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If anybody's still following the thread, this is one "solution" I've never seen verified one way or the other:
I would expect that with an external BR drive and some appropriate software, one can indeed watch BR via a Mac. So as implied above, is this possible? And, if so what's the cost?
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Now might be a good time to eat my order of humble pie, even though it was always just speculation on my part. All my thinking went to the wayside. I really thought Apple was holding back on the MBPs to have a full simultaneous line update. It doesn't make much sense to hold them back for so many months otherwise. Thunderbolt would've made so much more sense on desktop models first, esp. the Mac Pros which could make better use of the high speed connection. Perhaps the reason for stalling was that marketers wanted an early solution for saturation but the engineers figured they didn't want to compromise the desktop Mac Pros with a premature upgrade so they sacrificed one of their laptop lines to make due with the others?
Anyway, who wants to bet on if the next MBA will only have Thunderbolt connectors to make it even thinner?
Also the dedicated SSD thing was cool but I think I'd rather see an Expresscard comeback. Then you could choose if you want an SD card readers or Solid State Drive (Although, I hear that SSD might not properly fit in some macs for whatever reason) or a small number of other peripherals that would be best kept inside the case if you want. It's part of why I went with the 17" over the 15". Anybody know why Apple decided to do things this way instead, with, erm, selling more 17" models aside that is?
Anyway, who wants to bet on if the next MBA will only have Thunderbolt connectors to make it even thinner?
Also the dedicated SSD thing was cool but I think I'd rather see an Expresscard comeback. Then you could choose if you want an SD card readers or Solid State Drive (Although, I hear that SSD might not properly fit in some macs for whatever reason) or a small number of other peripherals that would be best kept inside the case if you want. It's part of why I went with the 17" over the 15". Anybody know why Apple decided to do things this way instead, with, erm, selling more 17" models aside that is?
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I'm gonna buy the Macbook Pro 15'', wich costs in Portugal 1,799€.
But its stupid cuz...
conversion rate:
$1,376 = 1€
so $1 = 0,73€
If you buy from the american store, you'll buy it for $1.799, which is equivalent to 1.307,42€.
If we look at the numbers the other way around (since they are more expressive):
If you buy it in the Portuguese store, for 1.799,00€, you'll be buying something that is worth in the U.S. $2.475,42.
$2.475,42 - $1,799,00 = $676,42 !!!
How come that we pay the same price !! With $675 we can surely buy the best GFX card there is for sale in the american market!!
Can anyone explain me this please? cuz with that 675dollars more i could buy the high end 15''.
But its stupid cuz...
conversion rate:
$1,376 = 1€
so $1 = 0,73€
If you buy from the american store, you'll buy it for $1.799, which is equivalent to 1.307,42€.
If we look at the numbers the other way around (since they are more expressive):
If you buy it in the Portuguese store, for 1.799,00€, you'll be buying something that is worth in the U.S. $2.475,42.
$2.475,42 - $1,799,00 = $676,42 !!!
How come that we pay the same price !! With $675 we can surely buy the best GFX card there is for sale in the american market!!
Can anyone explain me this please? cuz with that 675dollars more i could buy the high end 15''.
Which begs the question, what happened to your insistence that Apple would drop the 13" MacBook Pro with the next upgrade? Okay, I'll do it for you.
This will be my first macbook ever. I skipped last years updates because of the poorly updates for the 13". But now I dont know if I want the 13" or the 15". ... If Im going for the 13" I will go with the i7 with 8Gb RAM and 128Gb SSD. Or the 2.0 Qi7 15" with "just" 4Gb RAM and 128Gb SSD and the hi-res screen.
Thing is that I have a older HP as my main laptop right now. 15.4" with 1280x800 res. Same as in the MBP 13". So that wouldn't change anything in that department if i'll go for the 13" but I'll will get a smaller laptop and thats very nice the 15" MBP is about the same size as my current HP.
Gaaah cant make up my mind!
... If Im going for the 13" I will go with the i7 with 8Gb RAM and 128Gb SSD. Or the 2.0 Qi7 15" with "just" 4Gb RAM and 128Gb SSD and the hi-res screen.Thing is that I have a older HP as my main laptop right now. 15.4" with 1280x800 res. Same as in the MBP 13". So that wouldn't change anything in that department if i'll go for the 13" but I'll will get a smaller laptop and thats very nice
the 15" MBP is about the same size as my current HP.Gaaah cant make up my mind!
This will be my first macbook ever. I skipped last years updates because of the poorly updates for the 13". But now I dont know if I want the 13" or the 15".
Thing is that I have a older HP as my main laptop right now. 15.4" with 1280x800 res. Same as in the MBP 13". So that wouldn't change anything in that department if i'll go for the 13" but I'll will get a smaller laptop and thats very nice
Gaaah cant make up my mind!
It kind of sounds like you'd prefer the 15-inch. You can just upgrade the RAM yourself if you find you really need it, and you'll save money to boot.
I should add that I'd really consider going for the high-end 15-inch, if you decide to go that route. You can always pick the 500GB 7200 RPM drive as a no-cost option for a little extra speed. The graphics processor is such a big boost that I'd pay for that over a small SSD for now.
Or you can ignore me completely, and I'll be none the wiser.
This will be my first Apple computer. I am looking at buying a 15 inch model. Is the higher definition screen worth the extra 100 dollars? Would I notice the difference?
How much faster is the higher end 15 inch MBP? Is it actually noticeable?
Would I notice a difference in the graphics cards between the two 15 inch models?
Thanks,
John
How much faster is the higher end 15 inch MBP? Is it actually noticeable?
Would I notice a difference in the graphics cards between the two 15 inch models?
Thanks,
John
That's what I thought. TUAW confirmed a slightly larger trackpad, unless they were wrong too.
With Apple having released updated MacBook Pros yesterday, here is a look back at the some of the rumors that preceded the launch along with an assessment of their accuracy.
Winners:
- As long ago as last December, CNET reported that Apple would move even its smaller notebooks to Intel's Sandy Bridge platform, necessitating the use of Intel integrated graphics on the machines unable to utilize a discrete GPU for space reasons. Apple did just that with Sandy Bridge and with the integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000 serving as the sole graphics processor on the 13-inch model. The report also claimed that Apple would tap AMD for the graphics in the company's larger MacBook Pro, displacing NVIDIA as the GPU provider for the line, another development that did in fact occur in the update.
- Last Friday, a pair of Italian blogs, iSpazio and Slide to Mac, pinpointed Apple order numbers for the new machines, with one of them accurately claiming a release on Thursday or Friday of this week. Later that day, we confirmed that the launch would in fact take place on Thursday, Feburary 24th.
- On Sunday, CNET reported that Apple was expected to introduce a "new high-speed connection technology", referring to Intel's Light Peak standard, in the "near future". Light Peak did in fact make its debut in the new MacBook Pros under the name "Thunderbolt". Later that day, AppleInsider accurately reported that shipments were en route to resellers, with delivery set for early in the week. Best Buy also slipped its placeholder information into public-facing inventory lists.
- On Wednesday of this week, 24 hours before official launch, fscklog and Mac4Ever posted photos of specs from the box of the new entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro, as well as shots of the machine itself. The sources of these shots were obviously resellers who had received Apple's shipments of the new machines and opened the packages early.
Losers:
- In early February, a Best Buy inventory screenshot appeared showing a new Apple notebook with a dummy SKU and an in-stock date of March 11th, but the update actually occurred more than two weeks ahead of that date. The evidence continues to suggest that Best Buy's inventory databases are an inaccurate source of information until shipments are actually en route to stores, as the company appears to use placeholders that are simply based on circulating rumors and guesses up until that point.
- Danish blogger Kenneth Lund claimed earlier this month that a reseller had informed him of a March 1st date for MacBook Pros.
- An Intel ad published earlier this month sparked significant speculation that the notebook pictured was a leaked next-generation MacBook Pro. But as we noted at the time, the picture was simply a generic mockup and not related to any revamped MacBook Pro design.
- On Monday of this week, BGR reported that the new MacBook Pros would offer larger trackpads, a small SSD boot drive for system files, and reduced weight compared to the previous generation. None of the claims came true.
- On Tuesday, French site MacGeneration offered a list of claimed specs for the revamped MacBook Pro (repeating the hybrid SSD claim), with essentially none of these claims coming true with the exception of the "new technology" that had already been widely rumored to be coming as Light Peak/Thunderbolt.
Mixed Bag:
- In mid-December, DigiTimes predicted that Apple would update the MacBook Pro and iMac in the first half of 2011. While certainly not a stretch given that the previous update had occurred in April 2010, Apple did indeed easily meet this prediction for the MacBook Pro. The report claimed that Apple would launch "at least four" upgraded MacBook Pros, and the company did in fact introduce five standard configurations yesterday. The report also claimed, however, that the new MacBook Pros would ship with Mac OS X Lion. In addition, the report claimed that there would be a "slight change in chassis design", but the new MacBook Pros are for all intents and purposes identical to the previous generation.
Article Link: MacBook Pro Rumor Wrap-Up: Winners and Losers
You forgot to mention MACRUMORS as LOSERS
among most rumors that you spread about new MBP, most of them were false
You forgot to mention MACRUMORS as LOSERS
among most rumors that you spread about new MBP, most of them were false
I imagine the main purpose of macrumors is to collect the rumours out there and then inform the users on this site. How about showing some gratitude and respect for this wonderful site that provides free news for you instead of cheap rude remarks?
google makeMKV. I haven't used it in a few months, but it works. I only used it to back up blu-rays as MKV's but I know that there are individuals over at the plex forums who have used it to gain full blu-ray playback. I think the licensed version is us$50.
Once again, BGR reminds us they are on a pay-no-mind list.
And once again, users of this forum have proven that many people are capable of PROVING that photos are photoshopped, faked, can't be real, etc....only to find that they have no idea what they're talking about whatsoever.
Love it.
And once again, users of this forum have proven that many people are capable of PROVING that photos are photoshopped, faked, can't be real, etc....only to find that they have no idea what they're talking about whatsoever.
Love it.
Just to defend Kenneth Lund, he was actualy right in some way..
The new MBP's are in stock early next week in Denmark, which was said in the mail..
Denmark is a small country and we are a little late with everything, so he got the Danish launch date right
And just to be clear, there are a few demo models in the stores, but I was told in 3 the differrent stores today, that there's about 3-5 days days delivery time on standard configurations and 14 days if I wanted i.e. anti-glare
Tak, jeg ved dette og jeg sagde dette. Men, du ved det, hvordan Americanerne kan være. Lund fejl
.(Thanks, I know this and I said this. But, you know how Americans can be. Lund wrong).
I'm gonna buy the Macbook Pro 15'', wich costs in Portugal 1,799€.
But its stupid cuz...
conversion rate:
$1,376 = 1€
so $1 = 0,73€
If you buy from the american store, you'll buy it for $1.799, which is equivalent to 1.307,42€.
If we look at the numbers the other way around (since they are more expressive):
If you buy it in the Portuguese store, for 1.799,00€, you'll be buying something that is worth in the U.S. $2.475,42.
$2.475,42 - $1,799,00 = $676,42 !!!
How come that we pay the same price !! With $675 we can surely buy the best GFX card there is for sale in the american market!!
Can anyone explain me this please? cuz with that 675dollars more i could buy the high end 15''.
Apple's betting that the Euro will end the year at parity and accounting for the VAT. Thus they're pricing it high to keep their accountants happy. If Apple had faith in the Euro, it'd be at least 100 cheaper.
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You forgot the main winner, which is the end user. This is a very good up and will be my first Mac purchase (except the iPhone) since the 12" PowerBook which I sold in 2005. Apple, I'm coming back!
Please no more Best Buy inventory rumors
I hope someone saves this thread so next time MR posts a rumor based on Best Buy inventory we can remind the poster that they've been wrong time and time again. Better yet, just don't even post rumors based on BB.
I hope someone saves this thread so next time MR posts a rumor based on Best Buy inventory we can remind the poster that they've been wrong time and time again. Better yet, just don't even post rumors based on BB.