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MacBook Pro Software Update 1.0 Released

I am glad they updated the drivers - makes me feel better as I am getting ready to buy a new MBP!
 
hooch said:
I have the 2.4ghz model and the one problem I have noticed is my pointer would not be responsive when it was not focused and hidden. I think it happened when I use the up/down arrows to scroll (while reading for example) or typing in a text area (like what I am doing now). I would literally move my finger across the trackpad repeatedly to basically unlock the pointer and get motion. It was getting annoying!

Now, it seems to respond immediately. So, this also seems to be fixed too! Horray!


EDIT: Hmm...maybe that isn't fixed. Does anyone else notice if you do <apple>-t in firefox to open a new tab, it takes a few swipes before there is pointer motion??
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I found that what fixed this, was unchecking "ignore accidental trackpad input" in the trackpad settings. Other than that, if you switch quickly between typing and cursor, the computron thinks that this is by accident... God forbid we be fast on our mbps.

Side note: I got my update, and my immediate reaction was to test out the OpenGL updates with a game of Call of Duty 2. There is little to no change in that. So while they may have fixed something else, the graphics performance in a gaming environment still can't touch the predecessor.

Please fix it Apple :( I wanna kill me some germans.
 
I truly hope that people reading this don't go looking for the LG screen. If you get a MBP and it has the Samsung screen, this does not mean that it is defective. Looking at some of the posts and polls around here it appears you have a better chance of getting a defective (flickering/yellowing) display with the Samsung, but the LGs also have these problems (not as much though).

I have a Samsung screen and it has absolutely no problems. No flickering at all, no yellowing anywhere and no dead/stuck pixels. I would suggest checking with your eyes the display first. If you are happy with it then let it be. Just because it is a Samsung screen does not mean it has problems. Just because it is a LG screen does not mean it won't have the problems.
 
Iceduck said:
I can definitely confirm that this update addresses the flickering issue.
The flickering appears to have been replaced with "waves" moving across the screen very slowly. On my MBP it is barely noticeable (at least in the lighting here at my work) but since the visibility of the flickering had something to do with the backlight distribution I can imagine that it is more visible on other machines (mine only flickered in the top right corner where it happens to be slightly darker).

I have no real technical insight on this, but I can imagine that they may have underclocked the GPU to save power due to increased power consumption by the increased LED frequency. If they could only increase the frequency even more to completely eliminate the remaining waves...
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Are you talking about this happening during, say, bootup or during normal operation? I get some normal "waves" that is the LED backlight if I'm booting into my Boot Camp partition and sometimes when booting OSX, but nothing at all like that when I'm actually doing something. I think people might be confused as to when these waves or flickering occurs and that's why there's such inconsistent reports.

By the way, I already said way back on the first page that the only files included for update in this package are the Nvidia 8-series drivers (kernel extension and such) and some openGL modification.
 
Sbrocket said:
Are you talking about this happening during, say, bootup or during normal operation? I get some normal "waves" that is the LED backlight if I'm booting into my Boot Camp partition and sometimes when booting OSX, but nothing at all like that when I'm actually doing something. I think people might be confused as to when these waves or flickering occurs and that's why there's such inconsistent reports.
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They happens all the time when the display is not set to 100% brightness. However, they are only visible on solid darker colours (that's why you only see it on the boot-up screens).
 
pianoman181 said:
Just installed the update and ran Xbench. This is the 2.4GHz version with 2GB ram 15"....
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Here are the results from before installing the update... (2.4 Ghz)

Results 191.79
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.4.10 (8R2218)
Physical RAM 2048 MB
Quartz Graphics Test 177.20
Line 153.28 10.21 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 192.34 57.42 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 179.71 14.65 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 161.63 4.08 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 210.90 13.19 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 134.98
Spinning Squares 134.98 171.23 frames/sec
User Interface Test 386.07
Elements 386.07 1.77 Krefresh/sec

And after - not much in it really, apart from what appears to be a jump in the UI test...

Results 197.14
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.4.10 (8R2218)
Physical RAM 2048 MB
Quartz Graphics Test 177.47
Line 153.36 10.21 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 189.78 56.66 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 180.97 14.75 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 162.32 4.09 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 212.92 13.32 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 136.67
Spinning Squares 136.67 173.37 frames/sec
User Interface Test 441.22
Elements 441.22 2.02 Krefresh/sec
 
Is anyone having problems with crashes after installing?

Is anyone have issues with crashes after installing update? I can't get quictime to work, I can't get warcraft 3 to work and I can't even get xbench to work.

Please help.
 
This update dramatically improves HD movie file playback under OS X also. I learned yesterday that the video drivers in OS X were sub-par compared to the Windows counter-part. I have a high motion 1080i DivX file that was unplayable in OS X but worked beautifully in Windows. With this update, it now plays 10x better in OS X than it did before.

EDIT: Before update, VLC player used 100% processor and dropped many frames making the movie unwatchable. Now, after the update, VLC player only uses ~50% processor and drops no frames.
 
hooch said:
I have the 2.4ghz model and the one problem I have noticed is my pointer would not be responsive when it was not focused and hidden. I think it happened when I use the up/down arrows to scroll (while reading for example) or typing in a text area (like what I am doing now). I would literally move my finger across the trackpad repeatedly to basically unlock the pointer and get motion. It was getting annoying!

Now, it seems to respond immediately. So, this also seems to be fixed too! Horray!


EDIT: Hmm...maybe that isn't fixed. Does anyone else notice if you do <apple>-t in firefox to open a new tab, it takes a few swipes before there is pointer motion??
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This sounds like it might be the "Ignore accidental trackpad input" option. You could try turning that off in System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Trackpad. I turned it off long ago, because it totally messed up a game I was playing (Lugaru).

EDIT: Oops, someone already posted that. I guess I should open replies in new tabs and only write/post them after reading the whole thread...
 
chem said:
invasian,

excellent details in your report! I wonder if the performance is still the same in all those cases. Was the GPU underclocked at all? Is the CPU still performing to its fullest?

Maybe Apple really hit a home run with this patch. Universally good comments so far. That would be great.
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I have no idea how to check these really. I never did anything to the GPU and never checked it. I assume the CPU is working fine.

I will add that right now (after 10 mins or so after turning on), my cpu temp used to be low 50s (49-53)...but right now it is at 41C. I will see how long it takes for the temp to climb, if at all.
 
IMHO the single biggest reason that they will never take over the enterprise environment.
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I'm not sure that Apple even actively markets their products to the "enterprise market".

They are making so much money on their niche markets I'm not sure they really care about MS all that much.
 
has there been any mention of fixes related to the sound problems in these new machines?
 
Jestered said:
I truly hope that people reading this don't go looking for the LG screen. If you get a MBP and it has the Samsung screen, this does not mean that it is defective. Looking at some of the posts and polls around here it appears you have a better chance of getting a defective (flickering/yellowing) display with the Samsung, but the LGs also have these problems (not as much though).

I have a Samsung screen and it has absolutely no problems. No flickering at all, no yellowing anywhere and no dead/stuck pixels. I would suggest checking with your eyes the display first. If you are happy with it then let it be. Just because it is a Samsung screen does not mean it has problems. Just because it is a LG screen does not mean it won't have the problems.
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I'll second that. My first MBP has the Samsung screen. It was pretty much flawless until the backlight failed. My second MBP had an LG that was so unevenly lit that every solid color looked like a gradient. My third MBP has a flawless LG.
 
Daveway said:
Anyone notice advances in battery life? That was my main concern, and I'm not quite convinced that I'm seeing a boost.
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You won't. For those that said their fans have changed, their CPU voltage is lowered etc your wrong. Those kind of changes would have gone in an SMC firware upgrade.

This update is nothing more than an improved driver set for the GPU. For those of your reporting 10C temp drop, i doubt that. I could see a drop in temperature of maybe a degree or two depending on what this update does for the GPU.
 
I ordered mine on June 18th and it also arrived 10 days later (28th June). Its the MBP 2.2GHz 15" (glossy) screen. According to the colour profile I have the Samsung display. I actually phoned up to check on the order and they said it was being built/assembled in China.

Just actually ran the pixel checker you mention and all looks fine. :)

This is the first Mac I have bought for home, and I'm really pleased with it.

What brightness should I have the display set at? At the moment its four notches from max but it seems that only at the very maximum levels is it really bright. Definitely no flicker and no signs of yellow. I was just a bit worried about running it at maximum brightness.


maverick808 said:
I ordered on the UK online store. Both my MBPs shipped from Shanghai. The first I ordered on the 8th June and it arrived on the 18th. The first one had a Samsung display. It had a yellow tint at the bottom of the screen and flickered, especially at lower brightness levels. It also had a dead pixel. I called Apple the following day and they arranged a replacement to be sent. That arrived on the 22nd June. It has the LG display. It is so much better than the Samsung display. No flicker, perfect backlighting, no dead/stuck pixels, and no yellow tint. The screen is extremely bright and the colors are amazingly vibrant. I've owned a 1GHz PowerBook, 1.5GHz PowerBook, 2GHz MBP, 2.33GHz MBP, 1.83GHz MB, 2GHz MB, and many Dells and HPs. The Santa Rosa MBP display I have now easily beats all the previous laptop displays I've seen.



Go to System Preferences->Displays. Click the Color tab and click Open Profile. In the window that opens scroll down to line 13, which is labelled 'mmod' (stands for make and model). Click that line and you'll see the model details. If you have 00009C67 then it's LG. I think the Samsung was 00009C68.
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After installing this update on my 17" High Res MBP, I can definately see a difference in Unreal Tournament 2004. Previously had to run at 1920x1200 all at "Normal" settings for smooth play. Now it plays fluidly with everything set to the highest settings.
 
DMann said:
New MBP 2.4Ghz. LED? In energy saver, choose options, and then 'best performance' from button menu.
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That doesn't do anything on Intel processors besides adjust the computer and display sleep times in Energy Saver. The "Best Performance" misconception is left over from the PPC age.

Proof: Adjust the time until computer sleep and it switches from "Best Performance" to "Custom." If it actually adjusted the core frequency, what does "Custom" performance mean? It doesn't work out.
 
DMann said:
New MBP 2.4Ghz. LED? In energy saver, choose options, and then 'best performance' from button menu.
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In my case, the Options have these radiobuttons:

"Wake for Ethernet...."
"Automatically reduce the brightness of the display...."
"Restart automatically after powerfailure"
"Show battery status in the menubar"
 
I don't really care what the update does...

...just glad to read an article that doesn't have anything to do with the iPhone.
 
I found this update made my pc run 3 degrees hotter... but the system seems snappier. Anyways, since we figure the drivers were renewed would burning a new bootcamp driver cd also update the drivers in xp or was this just a OSX update. Thanks

17" 2.4 MBP
 
mainomega said:
I found this update made my pc run 3 degrees hotter... but the system seems snappier. Anyways, since we figure the drivers were renewed would burning a new bootcamp driver cd also update the drivers in xp or was this just a OSX update. Thanks

17" 2.4 MBP
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Just OSX.
As benchmarks have shown, there is nothing wrong with the Bootcamp drivers.

The question is, how much better do things run in OSX now? We know UT2004 runs much better, how about other games?
 
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