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MacBook Pro Speed Bump

DimFlicker said:
Thats not entirely true. Its florescent light that is the worst. I sell them a lot at Staples and ask customers for feedback on the screens. Most of them tell me its at its worst in the store and then when outside or in a dimlit room its actually better.
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Yeah, you're right, but that doesn't make them usable outside either, just not as bad as inside with the wrong light.
Either way those screens should be optional as they are a pain in the butt with light shining on them, especially when you wear bright clothes.
 
David Crellen said:
What on earth is a "Glossy Screen" and is it better than the regular kind of screen?
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A glossy screen, makes colors more vivid, has better contrast, etc. but only if you're in a dark room. If there's any light shining onto the display you'll get a reflection like a mirror.

Now please anyone tell me again you want one. Only Apple can market a bug as a feature...:rolleyes:
 
Apple is on crack. I've worked with Sony and Dells with those glossy screens and they're abysmal. Sitting next to a window makes the screens unusable.

I was going to buy a MacBook today. With the poor wireless reception on the Pro and the glossy screens on the MacBook it looks like maybe I'll be after one of the new Asus laptops instead. Hopefully I can get Mac OS X to run on it.

Apple - sell me a BTO MacBook without the glossy screen. Please, take my money.
 
ClimbingTheLog said:
Apple is on crack. I've worked with Sony and Dells with those glossy screens and they're abysmal. Sitting next to a window makes the screens unusable.

I was going to buy a MacBook today. With the poor wireless reception on the Pro and the glossy screens on the MacBook it looks like maybe I'll be after one of the new Asus laptops instead. Hopefully I can get Mac OS X to run on it.

Apple - sell me a BTO MacBook without the glossy screen. Please, take my money.
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At least some people with common sense around here. ;)
 
So happy to have waited until today... if you had asked me some 3 weeks ago I would have said that the new 13" MacBook (Pro) would be on my desk as soon as it gets released but since it was unavailable I was hesitating between the expensive-for-its-features 15" and the way-too-big-for-me giant 17".... Now there is the big news, long awaited... and after a careful review of the "store" pages, I will buy a....... 15"....

The 13" is great yet expected, it lacks some whistles and bells that I would have love to see if it was a "pro" version (backlit keyboard amongst others).. but no, this cool gadget is positionned towards the youngies... so I'll go for the 15" because the price is now right and they fixed the stupid but frustrating speed difference between the two "high-end" models...

The order will go tommorow !
 
doug.hall said:
Why? You were happy to pay the price at the time. Prices will always go down and I think it is a good thing that apple pass the cost reductions onto their customers. I suspect the cost reduction is due to the reduction in costs of the core duo chips from intel which reduced mid May.
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Being in the Intel camp now, the more frequent speed bumps will also mean the Apple top of the line machines will only hold those titles for a short time, as opposed to what we've grown used to with PPC, where a 1.8 can stay in the lineup for years.
 
Diatribe said:
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Now please anyone tell me again you want one. Only Apple can market a bug as a feature...:rolleyes:
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Probably the marketing folk saying 'we need a super bright screen for in-store displays - the anti-glare screens can't compete against HPs and Toshibas with their shiny screens...' :rolleyes:
 
icecavern said:
Well I waited well over a week for it to be delivered from shipping, it has a dead pixel, it whines when fully charged and now it's £100 cheaper...

I know prices of technology always fall but dropping the price only 5 days after the first batch were delivered in the UK isn't very good customer relations.
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If you ring and complain enough, they should refund you the difference. For you to not even have it a week and the price drop by that much, they'd be silly not to. As a last resort you could probably send it back for a full refund and then re-order. I've always found the UK Apple Store to be very reasonable if you explain the situation.
 
I think the biggest change to intel aspect that old time mac users need to get used are more frequent updates. I remember when I used a PC checking out new machines every month. It is just how the industry worked. Heck, my first PC was outdated in three months.

Frankly, I prefer the more frequent updates so long as I know they continue. I find it better than the "we will be at X ghz in a year" promise.
 
Porco said:
If you ring and complain enough, they should refund you the difference. For you to not even have it a week and the price drop by that much, they'd be silly not to. As a last resort you could probably send it back for a full refund and then re-order. I've always found the UK Apple Store to be very reasonable if you explain the situation.
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Well I could send it back and get a new one which would save me £40 after the £60 shipping fee I'd be charged. But then I'd have to wait for another one.

That's assuming they don't accept that this noise I have is a fault. I need to contact them about that first.
 
2nd mouse button...2nd mouse button...2nd mouse button.....

Apple...when are you going to put a second mouse button on your laptops? You're shipping Mighty Mouse with computers, why not put something like that on the trackpad? If you are going to promote that you can run Windows natively, you can keep your stubborn, head-up-your-anus philosophy and not include a second mouse button.

One of our main clients was ready to switch everything over to MacBook Pros last month. They bought one to test it out and one of their biggest compaints was the lack of a second mouse button. They've decided to hold of and stick with ThinkPads. I don't know when they will give Apple another try now.
 
KREX725 said:
Being in the Intel camp now, the more frequent speed bumps will also mean the Apple top of the line machines will only hold those titles for a short time, as opposed to what we've grown used to with PPC, where a 1.8 can stay in the lineup for years.
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I hope they don't bump the specs and lower prices every other week...:eek:
 
mozmac said:
2nd mouse button...2nd mouse button...2nd mouse button.....

Apple...when are you going to put a second mouse button on your laptops? You're shipping Mighty Mouse with computers, why not put something like that on the trackpad? If you are going to promote that you can run Windows natively, you can keep your stubborn, head-up-your-anus philosophy and not include a second mouse button.

One of our main clients was ready to switch everything over to MacBook Pros last month. They bought one to test it out and one of their biggest compaints was the lack of a second mouse button. They've decided to hold of and stick with ThinkPads. I don't know when they will give Apple another try now.
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The track pad does a right click... Put 2 fingers on the pad and click and it does a right click. It's quite cool actually.
 
Just because Apple are speed bumping every 3 months doesn't mean that you machine won't still last 3 to 3.5 years from when it came out.
 
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pincho said:
dedicated video + bigger screen + backlit keyboard (although minor, it come out handy, using it right now)
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Besides these important differences there is one thing that will allow you to make up for some of the things that Apple left out of the MacBook Pro or are just plain left out of all portables & that is the ExpressCard/34 expansion slot. Add to this a PCExpress expansion buss & then you can have several added features like a third & 4th displays or eSATA bus.

Bill the TaxMan
 
berkleeboy210 said:
My MBP is obselete already :( I'm really intrigued by those Black MacBooks this thing might go on eBay soon once i read some reviews!
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That's ashame it doesn't work anymore. How bout you return it? Black is better.
 
i had just ordered a macbook pro 2 days ago.. cmon' apple.... will my order reflect the new model now? the 2.16 version? bah...
 
berkleeboy210 said:
My MBP is obselete already :( I'm really intrigued by those Black MacBooks this thing might go on eBay soon once i read some reviews!
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I wouldn't say obsolete, what can it not do today that it could have done yesterday? The 1.83 Ghz MBP is still a very nice machine (I own one), and I am actually glad I bought it when I did. It sucks for people more now because there is less of a barrier between the MBP and MB. If I didn't buy my MBP when I did, I would be waiting until the Merom comes out. At least we 1.83s aren't 1.66ers, then I might be mad. Just glad Apple bumped up the specs before the release of the Rev. A's.
 
icecavern said:
The track pad does a right click... Put 2 fingers on the pad and click and it does a right click. It's quite cool actually.
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I know Apple has come up with "creative" ways of right-clicking. However, when you have a 55 year old millionaire who has finally learned how to use PowerPoint and Outlook, switching to a new computer is scary enough, without having to be told, "Okay, to right-click, you hold both fingers down and then click." Why does Apple insist on spending precious R&D money coming up with new ways of right clicking? How about putting a right mouse button and there and then everyone knows how to do it and you can go on to invent something else cool?

Thanks for pointing out the double-finger right-click, but, it's not acceptible for Apple to think that it's a replacement for a right mouse button.
 
Diatribe said:
As I said in the MacBook thread. Have you guys ever seen those screens? THEY SUCK. You can't use them if there is light, sun or anything else similar, which means you can't use them outside, which defeats the purpose of having a notebook in the first place.
At least it is an option for the MBP, because if not I might have bough my last Apple portable... :eek: (scary thought, but yes I hate those screens THAT much)

Oh and try to use a white shirt with those... looks great, but I suppose yu'll never need a mirror anymore.
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I have a hard enough time seeing my PBG4 screen while outside.
 
crees! said:
I have a hard enough time seeing my PBG4 screen while outside.
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Trust me it is only gonna get worse and not only outside but inside with any light on too.
I wouldn't bitch as much if this were an option. There might be people out there who only use their laptop in a dark room but I know none of those.
 
i'm not dissapointed

my 2.0 was more expensive yes. I bet Kevin Rose is kicking himself though. The Black one is nice. I would have bought that had it been available 2 months ago. Oh well... at least the only thing really upgraded was the processor. The HDD and video remains the same. And when the warranty runs out i will just get a new processor and install it myself. Hooray for intel (yes i fix macs so it would not be hard for me).
 
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