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MacBook Pro Supplies Constrained, Steve Jobs Says 'Not to Worry'
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Well I absolutely need a new laptop, but it does not have to be a MBP. The issue is I NEED a new laptop, but I will NOT pay $800+ more for an Apple over a comparably priced Sony. That is the issue. No I do not need to have the latest and greatest (not saying I would not like it) but I am not going to simply throw away money either because I want a MBP. If Apple would either release a new MBP with the latest and greatest OR reduce the price on the current list of computers to something reasonable for what you are getting I would not hesitate to buy an MBP. But to keep the prices as high as they are for a non-competitive product, that I cannot do.
No I do not want to change. I run both Win and OSX and like both and want t be able to run both. That is why I have Apple products - I can run both. Most of my software that I have has both Win and OSX versions on the discs. I'd greatly miss Keynote and to a lesser extent iPhoto but beyond that I'd be okay.
Let me put it this way. If OSX were available as a stand alone product as Windows is, and if I could put that OS on the hardware of my choice - I would right now immediately go out and buy a Sony VAIO or a Dell, or HP envy or some other hardware and then dual boot OSX and Win7. I'd do that because it would give me the best overall value. Apple knows this of course - that is one of several reasons why they do not want OSX to be something that can be installed on just any system.
No, it's your sense of entitlement that comes out of nowhere at play. They don't owe you anything. If you like their products buy them, if you don't buy something else, they are not your mom and dad.
That is due to the bitrate difference. Most streaming services don't even break 6Mbps and that typically includes sound.
I never said it wasn't "100% fair to criticise Apple", what isn't fair is to troll the forums calling apple users who post favourable comments about apple's product development and marketing cultists and zombies, amongst other things. I think it's self evident what I am saying.
You are painting a picture that apple is hugely under powering their products wrt the competition. This is to say the least grossly skewed. They are not the average pc maker that wants to get an edge by maxing out on every imaginable spec, as an apple user you should be aware of that. Because their edge comes as much from the software as it does for the hardware. I would be buying macs and OS X had they still be running on G4s, because the software and the eco system is best in class. I don't really care if some other manufacturer outperforms them by 5-10% by running after all the latest tec or undercuts them in price.
There is another issue known as support and reliability, are consumer reports, forester research, and so many watchdogs and independent firms "fanboys" of apple as well that consistently rate them the best (double the points dell had for support) for reliability and customer support.
What about industrial design and style. Does apple have a match there?
Of course everyone can conveniently ignore all that and complain about how they don't X resolution or X% faster cpu or whatever gpu they had in mind, that's what the forums are mostly about anyway sadly, and of course everyone can selectively attack apple. The "disgruntled kids" and the whiners here have little time to say how the 27" imac is a best in class machine in terms of specs, screen resolution, etc. AND PRICE.
But because apple is a few weeks late to update the macbook pros, for good reasons I am sure, all hell breaks loose and we hear about cultists and zombies as if the upgrade would make a leap in quality that would make an unthinkable difference in the users lives, and apple is late to update this mission critical equipment...
I'll take Steve's word instead, "not to worry".
You're in the wrong thread. This is the laptop thread. The 27" iMac thread is elsewhere. You keep bringing it up like it has anything to do with MacBook Pros. It doesn't.
As for being a few weeks late -- no, it's just about a few months at this point. Arrandale showed up in January, in laptops, shipping. And Apple's notorious for introducing products that aren't ready to ship too.
Dude, I'm not saying I don't think Apple's a good company. From a fundamentals standpoint (making money), they rock. This is why I've made tens of thousands of dollars trading in Apple stock over the last couple years.
But their proposition is not, has never been, and likely never will be "value" in their professional line. When you pay for a "Pro" line product, you are paying a premium for the product. You get that slick engineering to which you referred, and you pay the price in either firepower or price -- or both. To deny this is to deny reality.
I'm not all butt-hurt that there aren't new laptops. I can afford to go buy one now, throw it in the trash when Arrandale comes out, and go buy that. Plus my Penryn works just fine. What gets me is when people put on rose-colored glasses and blind themselves as to what they're really getting.
I guess I should be grateful, though. It's people like you that secured my profits trading in AAPL.
Did you think that a purchase comes with free upgrades upon refreshes? I can't figure out why a long period before being superseded would put you off buying one.
Sure - but the point still stands that currently, to me BR is a much better option for watching a movie on a large HD screen.
I fully expect streaming is the way things will go in the future, I just think we have 10 years or more before it is the norm.
haha finally a response! i've got 2 friends of mine who i converted over to the dark side and are waving their light sabres at my head now cz the wait is going on forever
Umm . . I think you mean light side of the force.
No insult intended - just pointing out an observation.
It was that kind of arrogance that almost caused Apple to go under in the first place. I think the company has learned from that mistake.
Too bad some of its fans still cling to it.
Please note, when you buy a computer, and Apple updates that model, Apple doesn't' update YOUR computer, just all new purchases of said model.
When Apple was in the toilet, it was the iPod and the iPhone that brought the company back. And who purchased all those iPods and iPhones? It was those late teens / early 20-somethings that you now look at with such contempt.
So instead of looking down on them with an elitist and arrogant attitude for which you have no basis, perhaps you should say "thank you for saving the company, without which I would have no life".
I'd be plenty happy with a 3.06GHz, 128GB SSD, 4GB RAM with GeForce 9400+9600. It just doesn't exist in a 13" flavour, and I work on a Cintiq and so have no need for a 15" display in a notebook.
I'm holding out to see what they'll do with the 13s.
Yeah, that too. If the price of a MacBook Pro had moved at all, I might have caved by now and just settled with a 15". But now I'm invested in waiting and then weighing up my options. Until then I'm torturing an Early 2008 MacBook with CS3, ha...
Um...what?
It learned to again close down the platform and not allow cheap companies to create licensed Mac knock-offs. Where did fan arrogance factor into that?
So any time a customer complains or asks for something that is currently not being provided, it comes from a sense of entitlement? Are you serious?
Obviously, you don't know the first thing about business. The moment you stop listening to your customers, the moment you think it is a priveledge for your customers to buy from you, is the moment when your company begins to decline.
This idea some of you Apple fanatics have that the rest of us should be quiet and simply accept whatever Apple chooses to bestow upon us as if it were mana from heaven is absurd. It is that very concept, and people like you, who almost caused Apple to go out of business 25 years ago.
Get a clue and join the rest of us in the 21st Century.
Now this one's a keeper!!
LE : On the off chance that the quoted post was sarcastic (it certainly should be), my appologies
Sounds like I hit a nerve. Obviously, my comment must have been accurate, since you had no articulate response.
You're right. Tim works his slide-ruler and when costs meet a predetermined amount, ... boom ... product. Sucks for sure. What you do? Apple is a great position in many ways, but ordering in bulk for some things just won't happen. They have to wait until the other companies to shoulder the higher initial costs until they can buy the components at the price they want/need to be able to sell their machines with a certain mark-up.
There are some decent hardware makers, but they all run Windows Vista or Windows 7. Not an option and never will be for me. Loyalty... yeppers. But not blindly loyal.
start mantra/The OS is just better. The Hardware is just better. The eco-system is just better. The Management is just better./stop mantra
You weren't satisfied?! How would YOU have handled it?! It was a huge gesture of goodwill. I remember the numbers that people published back then... a million iPhone owners ... that's $100,000,000 worth of free in-store credit. That's a freakin' lot of cheddar.
That being said, yes, Apple shouldn't have dropped the price so soon. It was wrong. But -- imagine if you will -- that the iPhone was introduced by ANY OTHER TECH COMPANY IN THE WORLD... do you think anyone would've gotten jack-squat when the price dropped?! H3LL No! But Apple did. You speak of loyalty and then drum up this past mistake, but I think, if anything, this shows Apple's loyalty to its users... which now,... if you've not noticed, includes millions of Windows users with Apple's base of iPod, iPhone and iPad consumers.
Funny thing, Apple's marketshare is growing.
