Agreed. Also, what else are we supposed to do? Wait until maybe 2018 for the 2nd gen? I don't have another laptop.I can't just skip this one because it's 1st gen and so "you shouldn't buy it".
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Agreed. Also, what else are we supposed to do? Wait until maybe 2018 for the 2nd gen? I don't have another laptop.I can't just skip this one because it's 1st gen and so "you shouldn't buy it".
Well, I ended up buying another 13" base MBP 2016. Still on the initial (3rd, actually) cycle and have been using on battery/Safari for ~5 hours. 2:37 remaining. I'm browsing mainly, not encoding a major motion picture. Seems fine to me.
Returned my first silver base to Amazon because of graphics issues. Walked into Best Buy last night and saw a space grey open box for $1,349. After haggling with the manager, I was able to have him knock an extra 10% off. Good deal I say at $1,214. Nice. I have absolutely zero interest in the touchbar so the base is perfectly fine for me. People can trash the keyboard from afar, but it's so, so good IMO.
Returned my first silver base to Amazon because of graphics issues. Walked into Best Buy last night and saw a space grey open box for $1,349. After haggling with the manager, I was able to have him knock an extra 10% off. Good deal I say at $1,214. Nice. I have absolutely zero interest in the touchbar so the base is perfectly fine for me. People can trash the keyboard from afar, but it's so, so good IMO.
Well, pros can get their work done faster - hence they are "pros," not us noobs trying to figure things out
It's the first iteration of a brand new MacBook Pro design. Hence, first generation. The 2012 Retina MacBook Pro had similar issues that required both software and firmware updates to fix.
Flaming glad i bought last year 15' Macbook Pro! As soon as rumoured thin and limited ports on these latest machines, i jumped at buying last year Pro's.
On the other hand.... think what a six pound Mac with 2016 components could do!
Why must I bring along my MacBook Pro when I'm hiking miles and miles? Your solution is very impractical for those that aren't in a studio shooting.
RJ-45 connectors break from normal use. The pin wasn't intended to be plugged and unplugged day in and day out. Wi-Fi is far more practical. Plus, the whole point of a notebook is to be mobile, not stationary.
Wow so now the fanboy excuse is Chrome is too resource heavy....pathetic
The MacBook is 2lbs. There's a big enough difference between 2 and 3. 3.5 would be even more of a stretch. Apple is using the exact same classes of processor in the MacBook Pro 13 and 15 as they did in the last generation. The newer chips are a bit more efficient, so Apple made the decision to increase portability by making the battery smaller. So have most of their competitors. 3.5lbs is considered heavy for a 13" notebook in 2016.
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Because that's you. Apple got the MacBook Pro right. People like you complained about the MacBook Air, declaring that "5lbs is the right size" for a 13" notebook.
Using Chrome and expecting good battery life?
These posts crack me up. I've been using Chrome with all of my Macbooks for years and never had a complaint about battery life.
No it isn't. You know I'm right. But like most luddites you want to cling to your legacy ports and wish for a notebook that Apple never made. Other than legacy ports, there is NOTHING that the previous models did better. Add a hub, and you have all the functionality and then some.
If anything, Apple wasn't aggressive enough. I'd prefer a 2.5 lb 13" with the Touch Bar, even if it meant using the 15W processors.
I've said I'm surprised they didn't make a MagSafe cable, or license one (like they did with the LG monitor).
Looking long-term, Apple sees the world going wireless. They are really pushing the world wireless, as anyone who paid any attention to the April 2015 MacBook rollout would know. They are supporting legacy ports as little as possible, and are largely getting out of the accessory business. Hence only rudimentary hubs (the VGA and HDMI multi-port adapters). Thunderbolt 3 was an Intel decision. You won't see new PCs or Mac with Thunderbolt 2 ports in the future. Apple's adapter is bi-directional (unlike many others).
Please observe what's going on in System Information, under Power. On light usage, Amperage should be less than 1000 mA (or rather -1000). When my system magically, without any observable application-based power drain or usage of discrete graphics according to Activity Monitor starts behaviour you described, this number jumps to around 2000 mA. Also, iStat menus indicated to me that "AMD topside" or something similar, strongly pointing towards the discrete GPU, is actually powered up and using about 10 watts (roughly equal to that 1000 mA difference at 12 volts).
To me it seems that at least problems I'm facing, and maybe also you, are caused by buggy power management, most likely a software issue. I'm looking forward for a fix, but this far I haven't figured out what triggers this behaviour of unnecessary power usage.
I'd wish there were more reports on proper software/hardware diagnostics on this thread, because "Tim Cook must go" style ranting (but also "it's a nice machine" apologies without more stringent backing) provides zero improvement on the topic, but lots of unnecessary, idiotic noise.
I was waiting for the new Macbooks to get one for my son, and decided to buy the old model.
The New Macbooks are a joke, Bad design, expensive...A rippoff
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Apple became a Phone company...
All their hardware is outdated...Mac Mini, Mac Pro, the iMac is limited to 16gb ram, Airport discountinued...
The New Macbooks are a joke, Bad design, expensive...A rippoff
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Complete agree.... Apple only cares about Iphone... Innovation in Apple is dead...
Apple became a Phone company...
All their hardware is outdated...Mac Mini, Mac Pro, the iMac is limited to 16gb ram, Airport discountinued...
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If software and firmware updates are all there needs to be to fix these issues, then that hardly seems like a big deal. Annoying, but not a reason to not buy this laptop. The worst that people would have to do is wait a few months to buy it, not wait for the 2nd gen laptop.
Macbooks get their long power life by being able to shut off the discrete GPU and use the GPU on the processor die when it's not actually needed. Unfortunately, if you have workloads that engage the discrete GPU, you will have to expect that battery life will decrease.
What the energy usage for a given app is, or whether or not it's using the discrete GPU can be found under the energy panel on the activity monitor.
The new MacBook probably can make it into the 8-10 hour range, but, you will have to be avoiding anything that has high energy usage. Especially avoid using anything that needs the discrete GPU.
What the energy usage for a given app is, or whether or not it's using the discrete GPU can be found under the energy panel on the activity monitor.
The new MacBook probably can make it into the 8-10 hour range, but, you will have to be avoiding anything that has high energy usage. Especially avoid using anything that needs the discrete GPU.
We bought a 2015 model with, gasp, USB ports and and SD card reader built in. Black Friday sale with zero sales tax and free shipping. B&H Photo.
I think with Apple, it's now best to just wait till Apple gets sued with a class action lawsuit and is forced to fix the defects in their new product, THEN buy it. I might get an iPhone 7S.
I think with Apple, it's now best to just wait till Apple gets sued with a class action lawsuit and is forced to fix the defects in their new product, THEN buy it. I might get an iPhone 7S.
There's an easy way for Apple to get out of this mess. Continue building the 2015 model with an updated processor and improved screen and call it a MacBook Pro. Continue building the new model also and call it the WTF Pro.
