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Update:

Apple completely replaced my 1 month old 15" MBP with touch bar at the Apple store in Boston.

One of the managers said that he has seen bad battery life on a small handful of new MBP's and that Apple was starting to hear about this issue.
 
Apple gets high battery life from being efficient. I can easily get 12 hours on Safari at 80% brightness if that's all I'm doing.

Chrome is not efficient, so it uses a lot of energy. There's no way to fix this other than to make Chrome more efficient.

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Just to be clear, I would get similar battery life as you are if I were using Chrome. Sometimes I need it for something, and I leave it running accidentally. My battery life will fade quickly.
You seriously get 12 hours of battery life with Safari while at 80% brightness, and this is with timed real-world results, not just estimates? And this is a MacBook Pro 2016 15"?
 
had a phonecall with apple this morning and they have agreed to replace my 15" 4gb gfx , 2.9 processor tb mbp

nw one is being built , then when it arrives i mail back the old one, lets hope replacement has a better battery life. does seem to acknowledge they are starting to identify this problem.
 
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Day 1: I am seeing slightly better battery performance but not a huge difference from my previous machine. This confirms (for me) that this is most likely a Software/Firmware issue that Apple should address in *.2, or *.3.
 
You seriously get 12 hours of battery life with Safari while at 80% brightness, and this is with timed real-world results, not just estimates? And this is a MacBook Pro 2016 15"?

Yup, but I can also seriously get 4-5 hours when I'm using a heavy workflow of Xcode, Postman, Slack, Photoshop etc. Also, I noticed Dropbox using a lot of cpu when nothing major seems to be happening.
 
Out of curiosity, what is it that you like about Chrome that would make you sacrifice battery life over using Safari?

Chrome has a much better plug-in library, and I personally like the interface better. Once they adopt touch bar, I will switch from Safari
 
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Chrome has a much better plug-in library, and I personally like the interface better. Once they adopt touch bar, I will switch from Safari

Been having a close eye on this thread. I had the same problem as many of you have described and I tried the following:

1. Reset SMC
2. Reinstall Sierra from boot with Option + R (I restored at first from Time Machine backup)
3. Run diagnostics with Option + D
4. Install Sierra 10.2.2 Beta (16C63A)

I have used the MBP on a regular basis, browsing, watching movie with VLC, typing in Word, etc. Before I could get 3.5 hours but now it shows me about 7.5 hours, which is better than before. If in fact it's 10.2.2 that have contributed to the increase in battery, I look forward to get the final release and hopefully it will give us some peace of mind.

This isn't the first time I have experienced myself battery issues with a new MBP but I was patient last time and Apple came through. I hope they will this time as well.

Current statistics are:

- Remaining charge: 87%
- Time remaining: 6:18
- Time on battery: 1:08

Update:
Forgot to mention that I also disabled Siri and Spotlight indexing. Will wait for a while before turning them back on just to see what happens.
 
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I have noticed that Microsoft Outlook for Mac is TOTALLY draining my battery life way more than any other program. Has anyone else noticed this? Using 15 inch W/ Touch Bar.
 
I have large hands and am quite enjoying the new keyboard. Thought I'd hate it. Wasn't a huge fan after the first day or two. After a couple of weeks I find it more comfortable than the magic keyboard I usually use with it at work.

Lucky man!
 
Apple really should just make at least one of their laptops a bit thicker like they used to. To give it amazing battery life, power, graphics etc... without it costing 5K of course.
 
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Spoke with Apple Care support today and told him two things:

1) I am not happy with the battery time of 7 hours since it has been marketed as to 10 hours.
2) I have tried everything to fix the issue (NVRAM, SMC, update to latest beta, clean install of Sierra, etc)

He acknowledged that Apple know this issue and (surprisingly) told me that the laptop needs to go into repair. When I asked how come, his reply was that the battery is faulty and needs to be replaced.

He could not give me any further details whether this issue was limited to the initial batch but that replacing the battery has fixed the issue for previous customers. Finally, since I got the laptop a couple of days ago the customer agent told me that if I would still not be happy after the repair I would be able to get a refund. Obviously, he was confident about the solution.

Since I really like the 2016 version, I am going to give Apple a chance to fix it. But I have to admit, in line with many of you, that this is quite an embarrassment on behalf of Apple.

Now, I am on my way to hand in the laptop to get the battery replaced. I will report back with the results once I get the laptop back.
 
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10.12.2 was just released, not seeing any release notes related to battery improvement unfortunately. Maybe 10.12.3?
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Spoke with Apple Care support today and told him two things:

1) I am not happy with the battery time of 7 hours since it has been marketed as to 10 hours.
2) I have tried everything to fix the issue (NVRAM, SMC, update to latest beta, clean install of Sierra, etc)

He acknowledged that Apple know this issue and (surprisingly) told me that the laptop needs to go into repair. When I asked how come, his reply was that the battery is faulty and needs to be replaced.

He could not give me any further details whether this issue was limited to the initial batch but that replacing the battery has fixed the issue for previous customers. Finally, since I got the laptop a couple of days ago the customer agent told me that if I would still not be happy after the repair I would be able to get a refund. Obviously, he was confident about the solution.

Since I really like the 2016 version, I am going to give Apple a chance to fix it. But I have to admit, in line with many of you, that this is quite an embarrassment on behalf of Apple.

Now, I am on my way to hand in the laptop to get the battery replaced. I will report back with the results once I get the laptop back.

Monty, very interested with what Apple replies with. Please update when you can, thanks!
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10.12.2 was just released, not seeing any release notes related to battery improvement unfortunately. Maybe 10.12.3?
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Monty, very interested with what Apple replies with. Please update when you can, thanks!
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Just installed macOS 10.12.2 (16C67), definitely a huge improvement, at least doubled battery life, will update again soon
 
A majority of the people complaining about poor battery life are using Chrome and won't even entertain using Safari.

Seriously, about 25% of the web pages I try to access with Safari go into this endless loop, "Error on page, reloading". Safari has some serious problems, none of which are being solved by Apple. Its been this way through several releases.
 



A subset of users who purchased a new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar claim to be experiencing shorter than expected battery life.

2016_macbook_pro_lineup.jpg

In particular, some users claim to be getting as little as 3 to 6 hours of battery life on a single charge, or between 30% and 60% of the up to 10 hours advertised.

MacRumors forum member SRTM said:MacRumors forum member Aioriya said:Reddit user Azr-79 yesterday claimed his new base model 15-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar received only 3 hours and 45 minutes of battery life on a single charge, despite what he described as "normal usage" in the form of web browsing, watching YouTube videos, and software development.

mbp-battery-life-chart.jpg

MacRumors forum member Scott claimed he experienced a 5 percentage point drop in battery life, from 10% to 5%, in just 12 minutes. Google Chrome, a known battery hog, was listed as the only app drawing significant power. The discussion topic he posted in and others are littered with similar claims of sizeable percentage drops in mere minutes.

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Other claims on Reddit include anywhere from 3 hours to 5 hours to 6 hours -- sometimes more, and sometimes less.

Conversely, some users report battery life exactly in line with Apple's advertised figures. Reddit user Andrew J., for example, said he was working on non-intensive tasks on his new MacBook Pro for 90 straight minutes, and still had 92% battery life with an estimated 10 hours and 35 minutes of usage remaining.Estimates unsurprisingly vary widely based on screen brightness, background processes, and other factors, so user reports are only anecdotal evidence and your mileage may vary. It is also important to note battery life could be initially reduced until Spotlight finishes indexing your new MacBook Pro.

Battery life complaints are nothing new following the launch of a new Apple product. However, some users speculate battery life could be impacted by the new MacBook Pro switching from more efficient integrated Intel graphics to the power-hungrier dedicated AMD Radeon Pro GPU for unnecessary tasks.

Once again, however, there are always claims to suggest otherwise. Reddit user Lebron Hubbard claims he received 5 hours and 48 minutes of battery life on his high-end built-to-order 15-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar when forcing only the dedicated AMD Radeon Pro 460 graphics to run using gfxCardStatus:Apple's built-in Activity Monitor and third-party app coconutBattery are useful tools for tracking system processes and detailed battery information.

10-hours-macbook-pro-battery-life.jpg

Apple officially says the new MacBook Pro is rated for up to 10 hours of battery life. Specifically, its tech specs page says all new 13-inch and 15-inch models are capable of up to 10 hours of wireless web browsing, up to 10 hours of iTunes movie playback, and up to 30 days of standby time on a single charge.

TechCrunch placed battery life at 9 hours and 35 minutes for the 13-inch model. Mashable said 10 hours is a fair estimate overall. The Wall Street Journal got 9.5 hours on the 13-inch model. Engadget gauged between 9 and 10 hours of video playback on the 15-inch model. Nilay Patel got 5.5 hours on the 13" in real-world use.

Apple explains how it performs its battery tests on its website:Apple's website also provides tips for maximizing battery life on the MacBook Pro, including updating to the latest version of macOS, optimizing Energy Saver settings in System Preferences, dimming the screen's brightness to the lowest comfortable level, and turning off Wi-Fi while not connected to a network.

Additional battery optimization advice provided by users includes performing a fresh install of macOS Sierra and resetting the SMC.

Article Link: MacBook Pro Users Express Concerns About Limited Battery Life
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A subset of users who purchased a new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar claim to be experiencing shorter than expected battery life.

2016_macbook_pro_lineup.jpg

In particular, some users claim to be getting as little as 3 to 6 hours of battery life on a single charge, or between 30% and 60% of the up to 10 hours advertised.

MacRumors forum member SRTM said:MacRumors forum member Aioriya said:Reddit user Azr-79 yesterday claimed his new base model 15-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar received only 3 hours and 45 minutes of battery life on a single charge, despite what he described as "normal usage" in the form of web browsing, watching YouTube videos, and software development.

mbp-battery-life-chart.jpg

MacRumors forum member Scott claimed he experienced a 5 percentage point drop in battery life, from 10% to 5%, in just 12 minutes. Google Chrome, a known battery hog, was listed as the only app drawing significant power. The discussion topic he posted in and others are littered with similar claims of sizeable percentage drops in mere minutes.

1-2-800x296.jpg

Other claims on Reddit include anywhere from 3 hours to 5 hours to 6 hours -- sometimes more, and sometimes less.

Conversely, some users report battery life exactly in line with Apple's advertised figures. Reddit user Andrew J., for example, said he was working on non-intensive tasks on his new MacBook Pro for 90 straight minutes, and still had 92% battery life with an estimated 10 hours and 35 minutes of usage remaining.Estimates unsurprisingly vary widely based on screen brightness, background processes, and other factors, so user reports are only anecdotal evidence and your mileage may vary. It is also important to note battery life could be initially reduced until Spotlight finishes indexing your new MacBook Pro.

Battery life complaints are nothing new following the launch of a new Apple product. However, some users speculate battery life could be impacted by the new MacBook Pro switching from more efficient integrated Intel graphics to the power-hungrier dedicated AMD Radeon Pro GPU for unnecessary tasks.

Once again, however, there are always claims to suggest otherwise. Reddit user Lebron Hubbard claims he received 5 hours and 48 minutes of battery life on his high-end built-to-order 15-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar when forcing only the dedicated AMD Radeon Pro 460 graphics to run using gfxCardStatus:Apple's built-in Activity Monitor and third-party app coconutBattery are useful tools for tracking system processes and detailed battery information.

10-hours-macbook-pro-battery-life.jpg

Apple officially says the new MacBook Pro is rated for up to 10 hours of battery life. Specifically, its tech specs page says all new 13-inch and 15-inch models are capable of up to 10 hours of wireless web browsing, up to 10 hours of iTunes movie playback, and up to 30 days of standby time on a single charge.

TechCrunch placed battery life at 9 hours and 35 minutes for the 13-inch model. Mashable said 10 hours is a fair estimate overall. The Wall Street Journal got 9.5 hours on the 13-inch model. Engadget gauged between 9 and 10 hours of video playback on the 15-inch model. Nilay Patel got 5.5 hours on the 13" in real-world use.

Apple explains how it performs its battery tests on its website:Apple's website also provides tips for maximizing battery life on the MacBook Pro, including updating to the latest version of macOS, optimizing Energy Saver settings in System Preferences, dimming the screen's brightness to the lowest comfortable level, and turning off Wi-Fi while not connected to a network.

Additional battery optimization advice provided by users includes performing a fresh install of macOS Sierra and resetting the SMC.

Article Link: MacBook Pro Users Express Concerns About Limited Battery Life
0n my 13" MBP non touchbar, I get just over 12.5 hrs playing 1080p full screen movies in iTunes with 75% brightness, 50% audio.
 
After the dramatic improvement I had with 10.12.2 (16C67), I updated again to 10.12.3 Beta (16D12b), sad to report that battery is back to old 4-5 hours, I have coconut battery installed so I can see consumption all the time, with 10.12.2 (16C67) consumption is around 5-7 W most of the time, but with 10.12.3 Beta (16D12b) its around 9-11 most of the time, so its not an estimation or a a shot in the dark, these are actual numbers for consumption
 
I have noticed that Microsoft Outlook for Mac is TOTALLY draining my battery life way more than any other program. Has anyone else noticed this? Using 15 inch W/ Touch Bar.

I had Outlook 2016 running all day yesterday with no significant effect on battery drain.
 
Just wanted to add 10.12.2 has fixed my battery issues completely. Not at first, I was getting 4hrs surfing in safari and watching movies in iTunes. Battery Health 2 said I was discharging at 20w.

I booted into recovery mode and reinstalled Sierra having read this would replace all the system files, leaving my apps and data intact. It did exactly that and now with the same usage I discharge at 5.5w and get 11-12 hours real world usage.
 
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Just wanted to add 10.12.2 has fixed my battery issues completely. Not at first, I was getting 4hrs surfing in safari and watching movies in iTunes. Battery Health 2 said I was discharging at 20w.

I booted into recovery mode and reinstalled Sierra having read this would replace all the system files, leaving my apps and data intact. It did exactly that and now with the same usage I discharge at 5.5w and get 11-12 hours real world usage.
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